The Map Of UNITED STATES OF ISLAM!!!

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heresy = death, apostasy = death,

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So what? really so what?
in the united states the penalty for treason is death. Do read of Julius and Ethyl Rosenberg! islam isn't just a religion it is a state law and an entire govt. ststem.. if you wanted to apostate and keep it to yourself, I don't see how anyone can know? if you wanted to apostate and go all jingle-jangle then prepare to suffer the consequence for treason against the state!

Many people apostated during the time of the prophet and were granted respite, the laws are really instated for those who embraced Islam then decided to apostate to create a state of unrest..

That is the penalty for treason even in the so-called civilized world... The measures aren't different.. they just slap a different label on it oh free thinker!

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Refer to this book on the matter of apostasy "Freedom of religion and apostasy in Islam"

"This book argues that the law of apostasy and its punishment by death in Islamic law is untenable in the modern period. Apostasy conflicts with a variety of foundation texts of Islam and with the current ethos of human rights, in particular the freedom to choose one's religion. Demonstrating the early development of the law of apostasy as largely a religio-political tool, the authors show the diversity of opinion among early Muslims on the punishment, highlighting the substantial ambiguities about what constitutes apostasy, the problematic nature of some of the key textual evidence on which the punishment of apostasy is based, and the neglect of a vast amount of clear Qur'anic texts in favour of freedom of religion in the construction of the law of apostasy.

Examining the significant challenges the punishment of apostasy faces in the modern period inside and outside Muslim communities - exploring in particular how apostasy and its punishment is dealt with in a multi-religious Muslim majority country, Malaysia, and the challenges and difficulties it faces there - the authors discuss arguments by prominent Muslims today for an absolute freedom of religion and for discarding the punishment of apostasy"
 
Oops, I referenced a book. It happens to be the one most referenced on this website. I have not embarrassed anyone unless it's those who have not read those verses themselves with an open mind.

Let me guess, you read those verses thinking, "Hey, they probably deserve it. How dare they not conform they're ideologies to what we believe".


In the US, you are free to think as you please so long as your actions do not infringe on the fundamentals rights of another. Do you understand how fundamental rights are determined? Certain things you cannot change about yourself; age, gender, ethnicity, race, sexual orientation (debatable on religious forums). There are certain things you can; nationality, political and social ideologies, religion, etc.... You cannot discriminate against a person or people based on the fundamental things they have no control over, unless those people are infringing on the rights of others based on those fundamental traits.

It is not treason if you have your own nationality revoked and declare that you are not a member of that nation or society. Treason is the willful betrayal of one's loyalty and involves hypocrisy as it is intended to deceive a nation or state while aiding its enemies. The nation or state does not own or govern every single thought it's people are allowed to have, much less those that have openly declared that their allegiance lies elsewhere. They simple have an interest in protecting the fundamental rights of their citizens, even if it means allowing you as a believer to practice whatever religion you want to in a peaceful manner.

Execution for a thought crime is justifiable in only religious terms. It is not only Islam that condones it, so I'm not picking on Islam.



All the best wishes,




Faysal
 
So, what's special about khallistan? Any cool theme parks?
 
yea i rather have kalistan over hindustan any day. At least Muslims and christians will be able to live in peace under their rule compared to what they are facing today with those hindu extremists.

Apart from a small glitch during the Moghul times, yes it's fair to say Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus lived quite peacefully during the Reign of Mahraaja Ranjit Singh. Today, it's the Hindus we have to watchout for, trying to eradicate other religions as they did with Buddhism many years ago!
 
Buddhism? Are you talking about Asoka's period?

Buddhism did begin in India, and it was eradicated by the Brahmins (Hindu Priests) as they feared it taking over Hindusim, and as we know Hindusim is caste based and Buddhism isn't. Hence them spreading to Tibet.
 
Buddhism did begin in India, and it was eradicated by the Brahmins (Hindu Priests) as they feared it taking over Hindusim, and as we know Hindusim is caste based and Buddhism isn't. Hence them spreading to Tibet.


Currently there are lots of low caste Hindus converted to Buddhism right? Especially among the Marathis.

How about those Gujjars who protested days ago? Are they Hindus?
 
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