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Assalamoalaiakum,
I have a similar dilemma about covering, Alhamdolillah I wear a jilbab and a hijab when I am in europe, but I don't cover my face, as in a niqaab, which really gives me guilt every day but it just gets in the way too much, I have to do many things myself and go out more often here as compared to the middle east, where I am safe and can do ANYTHING within a niqaab.
Can someone tell me if I am wrong to take off the niqaab while I am in europe? And any suggestions to deal with the obstructions, e.g people taking me non serious, it is bad as it is, I go to garderies to drop my kids while we shop for an hour, most of the french people push infront of me cos the attendant asks them to come foward, I nearly had a bad argument last week with them, similarly at the park, most people just stare at me instead of talking to me, if I invite one of my sons callsmates to come to my home, they dont, it is like we're very lonely as it is.. People are pushed back from my ... appearance. I thought I could make friends with arab women but then I dont speak arabic either :(
Some of the jewish people living here hate to look at me, would you believe they just dont look, Alhamdolilah i wear a nice jilbab but I always wear black loose clothing, with a black hijab.. my neighbour was really good in the beginning then she tried to persuade me to stop using the jilbab but i didnt listen.. and now she doesnt talk to me, even my husband doesnt like it!!!

Am I sinning not to wear niqaab or should I not care about people and just go ahead?

JazakAllah
 
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If you are convinced that it is fard to wear niqab then you must observe it.

Do not pay heed to what people say.
 
HopeFul said:
Assalamoalaiakum,


Am I sinning not to wear niqaab or should I not care about people and just go ahead?

JazakAllah
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cant comment on the sinning part, but yes u should not care about what people say and jsut go ahead. Do you think people like that you wear the jilbab and hijab? no they dont like that either. Always expect comments and inshaAllah you will be rewarded for ur patience, because you are wearing the niqab for Allah and He sees your struggle and determination in wearing it to please Him. :)
 
JazakAllah everyone,

I know that it is fard, I am insuch peace when taking it, women seprate, men seperate, and my mind is at ease, i dont have to have parties at home, dont have to mix with men at all, and even though I still do that, going out is.. welll, not good for me without niqaab but here I lack the courage :(

InshaAllah i will try and take it up again.. Pray for me please
 
may Allah give you the strength of faith so that u can walk with niqaab on the streets of US, europe.

Ameen
 
HopeFul said:
JazakAllah everyone,

I know that it is fard, I am insuch peace when taking it, women seprate, men seperate, and my mind is at ease, i dont have to have parties at home, dont have to mix with men at all, and even though I still do that, going out is.. welll, not good for me without niqaab but here I lack the courage :(

InshaAllah i will try and take it up again.. Pray for me please
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Allah says in al-Qur'an that whoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him then Allah will make a way out from him from where he wouldn't expect.

Many women in the west wear niqab. I urge you to keep it on and do not fear anyone.
 
If you feel convicted to wear it than by all means sister that is what you should and need to do. Just like I feel convicted to wear the hijab, especially as a married Christian woman. I do not understand why Jewish and Christian women do not think that they are mandated to cover their hair especially when they are praying. We worship the same God and his standards of modesty are the same for all women. Amen.
 
JazakAllah everyone for your support, ragdollcat , hijab ismeant to be for the head and niqaab for the face..
 
HopeFul said:
JazakAllah everyone for your support, ragdollcat , hijab ismeant to be for the head and niqaab for the face..
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Yes I know the niqab is for the face and depending on what school of Islam it will be either said it is mandatory or optional. I have read both view points and while hijab is mandatory I tend to agree that niqab is optional. If a believing woman feels compelled to wear it because it will bring her closer to God than she should do just that, but if she does not she wont incur a penalty for it. I know there are several who will disagree with that view point. I however believe from just what the Bible says that covering hair (hijab) and modest dress are mandated for Christians as well, especially while praying. Under the Mosiac law it is required to cover ones hair if ones is a woman, but sadly most do not practice it.
 
ragdollcat1982 said:
Just like I feel convicted to wear the hijab, especially as a married Christian woman. I do not understand why Jewish and Christian women do not think that they are mandated to cover their hair especially when they are praying. We worship the same God and his standards of modesty are the same for all women. Amen.
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Hi, ragdollcat1982

That you are a Christian, yet feel compelled to wear hijab, is interesting. You might be surprised by the numbers of Christian women who do cover their heads, to pray. In the privacy of my home, I do so. I'll bet there are quite a few others who do so, as well. Catholic women (no, I'm an Episcopalian) often wear "chapel veils" in church. I think this is more prevalent in Europe than in the US.

I agree that the sister (HopeFul) who feels she should wear niqab, should do so. If the instinct is that strong, then it could well be what the Creator wants of her. It's not for any human being to gainsay God, after all.

Of course you needn't answer, but again--I'm curious: Do you cover your head, in public? What sorts of reactions do you get, if you do?

Slightly OT to anyone who can answer: I'm new to this forum. Is this a segregated forum (women only)?
 
abscedere said:
Hi, ragdollcat1982



Slightly OT to anyone who can answer: I'm new to this forum. Is this a segregated forum (women only)?
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Hi and welcome :)

No it isnt :) though there is a womens only section
 
To all: Please disregard my last question about this being a women-only thread. I double checked myself, and answered my own question
 
you don't need to wear a face cover/niqaab, it's not mandatory/fard/wajib.
you don't need to wear the color black either, but you know that already :)
 
abscedere said:
Slightly OT to anyone who can answer: I'm new to this forum. Is this a segregated forum (women only)?
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Welcome to LI, abscedere :welcome:

I know you have already answered your own question, but as well as a Sister's Section which is accessible to Muslim women only, there also is a Mixed Female section which is accessible to all female posters (although you need a certain amount of posts to qualify - I forget how many ...)

We are thin on the ground on non-Muslim women there, and things have been very quiet.
We could do with some 'fresh blood' - so bear it in mind!

Peace :)
 
Thanks, glo!

I doubt I have anything new to input--I have questions, but you've probably heard them all, before.
 
HopeFul said:
Assalamoalaiakum,
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And any suggestions to deal with the obstructions, e.g people taking me non serious, it is bad as it is, I go to garderies to drop my kids while we shop for an hour, most of the french people push infront of me cos the attendant asks them to come foward, I nearly had a bad argument last week with them, similarly at the park, most people just stare at me instead of talking to me, if I invite one of my sons callsmates to come to my home, they dont, it is like we're very lonely as it is.. People are pushed back from my ... appearance. I thought I could make friends with arab women but then I dont speak arabic either :(
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when things like that happen to me, i usually ignore them or i'll say something back, or glare at them or something and its just to tell them that yep im a muslimah, but you know what that doesn't give you the right to pester me for it so, your barking up the wrong tree :p :D
Some of the jewish people living here hate to look at me, would you believe they just dont look, Alhamdolilah i wear a nice jilbab but I always wear black loose clothing, with a black hijab.. my neighbour was really good in the beginning then she tried to persuade me to stop using the jilbab but i didnt listen.. and now she doesnt talk to me, even my husband doesnt like it!!!
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all is cool, who cares what they think :p i've learnt in life that if no one cares for my feelings and how I may take their insults, etc, then why should i care for what they have to say? :)

you know ukhtee, the more hijaabis/jilaabis out there, the more people will get used to us and know that we -as muslims- arent trouble makers (like some may think). so if we do what we need/want to do without making trouble,then they will see that we are really peaceful people innit :) also you set an example for those who wish to observe the hijaab/niqaab cos sisters back out if they dont see others observing it as well. :thumbs_up

Am I sinning not to wear niqaab or should I not care about people and just go ahead?
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sis, if you have a genuine desire to wear the niqaab, then go ahead and wear it...all the best :)
 
JazakAllah everyone for your advice, May Allah keep you on the straight path, ameen :)

And I have ordered myself so e new jilbabs and nikaabs hehehe, let's see how it goes :)
 
I recently took a small workshop course in vocals. The instructor noted that, by doing something yourself, you are "giving permission" to others to do the same thing. So, I suppose those sisters with the courage to dress modestly, really do offer encouragement to other sisters, as Umm ul-Shaheed notes.

That said, this forum and others like it might be the only place I will be likely to speak to Muslimahs who don hijab, niqab, or burqa (please excuse any misspellings). Why? Because as a non-Muslim, I am intimidated by Muslimahs in Islamic dress. This is, of course, no fault of anyone but myself. It's a case of timidity on my part.

These sisters appear to be so very different (I live in the US, by the way) from myself, that I don't think my attempts to make small talk, let alone discuss anything serious, would be appreciated. I avoid looking at modest Muslimahs, not because I find them repugnant, but because it's impolite to stare at other people. I try not to be impolite.

The grand irony in this is that, on the same road that I live on, there is a new mosque, and also the older mosque. I guess the old building is used for men's meetings, now. Anyway, there are Muslimahs in my neighborhood. Mostly, I see them out shopping, when I'm doing the same.

I don't know if it's just me, or if I'm a bizarre exception to the rule, but to me a hijab is like a sign telling me, as a non-Muslim, to back off and mind my own business.
 

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