The Architect
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A friend of mine recently asked me this question: "Can you explain God without favoring a religion?" I've come up with a theory. I am a Christian myself, but I really do believe this theory gives a new perspective on God, one that most religions would not get angry over. And I'd like to share it with the Muslim community. Please, I'd like no flaming at all. I respect your religion, and I want this to be a peaceful discussion. Anyway, on to my theory...
Each aspect of myself that I can perceive, I know to be a product of the universe. I am simply a fragment of a greater whole. Every atom, the patterns that make up my body are not unique, but may be found in greater quantities and myriads of examples in the universe. All the components exist outside and independently of the final product. This brings me to the question of my conscience. It seems that this too is simply a product of a greater whole. It seems unlikely that matter and energy alone can produce conscience. To me it seems more plausible that conscience is as fundamental to the universe as matter and energy.
If this fundamental conscience is God, then our limitations result when we begin to try to define God. Defining the Infinite can only make It less. God would be worthy of worship if God is something of such unfathomable wonder that we are left in awe of a mere glimpse.
Some of you may ask: "Why do you deem conscience merit for worship?" or you may ask how it can be deemed for worship. I'm only guessing. I use the example of conscience because to me, that seems to be the only thing that would make sense if this Being is intelligent enough to create all that we see, hear, feel, taste, and are. I can't define exactly what God is because of course, I do not know, I can't know. You need a conscience in order to function intelligently, correct?
Now how do we explain God in relation to time?
Well, I believe God is beyond time. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, as well as many other religions suggest that God is here, has always been here, and will always be here. God doesn't live in the same time as we do, or does He live in a time at all? Perhaps His life is a sort of "linear existence". He has an infinite amount of time for each and every one of us; He doesn't have to answer our prayers all at once and in a mass. With His life it is, so to speak, still 1920 and also 2006. For there is no before or after for God, He is always in the present (He sees all time as the present), and thus, has always been here. If there is no before or after for God as religion suggests, then what about energy?
Now, time is a factor in how energy is distributed and received, so if God is infinite, then what about energy up around Him? Is it just floating around up there in eternity? That is a question I can't answer, but it explains afterlife. If our souls are made up of energy and conscience, then we're constant, we can't be destroyed, we live forever, our should at least. I realize that some of you will say: "Energy cannot be created either, so you're saying we can't be made.", but if God can do anything, then who's to say He cannot create energy and matter and conscience?
Maybe you are not understanding this theory, or maybe you are, but I am going to clarify.
When I say that conscience is as fundamental to the universe as matter and energy, I mean that it could be on the same level as matter and energy. If this is so, then this conscience could be a God-like figure or God. This also goes into a sort of "Matrix" theory, if you will; about what is "real" and what is not "real". It suggests that conscience could be on the same level as matter and energy, but of course, not tangible in the respect that you may be thinking of; that is being able to see, touch, hear, or even being perceptible to the human mind. I did not mean that an individual's conscience is God either. I meant that God is a sort of...living conscience, if you will, that possibly lives outside of the body, outside of our known universe, outside of time. Of course, this fundamental conscience that may be God is much more powerful and much higher than we could ever hope to be, for He created us. And of course, a conscience can create, in a sense. On God's level of mind however, His thinking is far superior to ours, to the point that He's able to create matter, energy, and even consciences or, souls.
Many keep trying to bring science and logic into this, but science and logic can only go so far. It's harder to try to disprove the existence of God than it is to try to prove it. Think about this: If there were no God, then we should have never found out that there isn't a God in the first place. To say that there isn't a God is just like saying it is dark, if light did not exist. If light did not exist, then you would not be able to perceive dark. Many also say that people created God; perhaps to gain power over other people, or because they were scared of what is beyond death and this world, so people created God and afterlife, and created our basic morals i.e. the Ten Commandments. Well, this simply does not make sense. How could we create something that we cannot fully comprehend or perceive? And we could have never created our basic morals. For we, as humans, to create laws and morals, we must first have an understanding of previous morals. All laws and morals that humans have created are simply extensions or corrections of previous laws and morals. And to create something our of fear; yet again I ask: How could we create something that we cannot fully understand or perceive?
Your thoughts?
Each aspect of myself that I can perceive, I know to be a product of the universe. I am simply a fragment of a greater whole. Every atom, the patterns that make up my body are not unique, but may be found in greater quantities and myriads of examples in the universe. All the components exist outside and independently of the final product. This brings me to the question of my conscience. It seems that this too is simply a product of a greater whole. It seems unlikely that matter and energy alone can produce conscience. To me it seems more plausible that conscience is as fundamental to the universe as matter and energy.
If this fundamental conscience is God, then our limitations result when we begin to try to define God. Defining the Infinite can only make It less. God would be worthy of worship if God is something of such unfathomable wonder that we are left in awe of a mere glimpse.
Some of you may ask: "Why do you deem conscience merit for worship?" or you may ask how it can be deemed for worship. I'm only guessing. I use the example of conscience because to me, that seems to be the only thing that would make sense if this Being is intelligent enough to create all that we see, hear, feel, taste, and are. I can't define exactly what God is because of course, I do not know, I can't know. You need a conscience in order to function intelligently, correct?
Now how do we explain God in relation to time?
Well, I believe God is beyond time. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, as well as many other religions suggest that God is here, has always been here, and will always be here. God doesn't live in the same time as we do, or does He live in a time at all? Perhaps His life is a sort of "linear existence". He has an infinite amount of time for each and every one of us; He doesn't have to answer our prayers all at once and in a mass. With His life it is, so to speak, still 1920 and also 2006. For there is no before or after for God, He is always in the present (He sees all time as the present), and thus, has always been here. If there is no before or after for God as religion suggests, then what about energy?
Now, time is a factor in how energy is distributed and received, so if God is infinite, then what about energy up around Him? Is it just floating around up there in eternity? That is a question I can't answer, but it explains afterlife. If our souls are made up of energy and conscience, then we're constant, we can't be destroyed, we live forever, our should at least. I realize that some of you will say: "Energy cannot be created either, so you're saying we can't be made.", but if God can do anything, then who's to say He cannot create energy and matter and conscience?
Maybe you are not understanding this theory, or maybe you are, but I am going to clarify.
When I say that conscience is as fundamental to the universe as matter and energy, I mean that it could be on the same level as matter and energy. If this is so, then this conscience could be a God-like figure or God. This also goes into a sort of "Matrix" theory, if you will; about what is "real" and what is not "real". It suggests that conscience could be on the same level as matter and energy, but of course, not tangible in the respect that you may be thinking of; that is being able to see, touch, hear, or even being perceptible to the human mind. I did not mean that an individual's conscience is God either. I meant that God is a sort of...living conscience, if you will, that possibly lives outside of the body, outside of our known universe, outside of time. Of course, this fundamental conscience that may be God is much more powerful and much higher than we could ever hope to be, for He created us. And of course, a conscience can create, in a sense. On God's level of mind however, His thinking is far superior to ours, to the point that He's able to create matter, energy, and even consciences or, souls.
Many keep trying to bring science and logic into this, but science and logic can only go so far. It's harder to try to disprove the existence of God than it is to try to prove it. Think about this: If there were no God, then we should have never found out that there isn't a God in the first place. To say that there isn't a God is just like saying it is dark, if light did not exist. If light did not exist, then you would not be able to perceive dark. Many also say that people created God; perhaps to gain power over other people, or because they were scared of what is beyond death and this world, so people created God and afterlife, and created our basic morals i.e. the Ten Commandments. Well, this simply does not make sense. How could we create something that we cannot fully comprehend or perceive? And we could have never created our basic morals. For we, as humans, to create laws and morals, we must first have an understanding of previous morals. All laws and morals that humans have created are simply extensions or corrections of previous laws and morals. And to create something our of fear; yet again I ask: How could we create something that we cannot fully understand or perceive?
Your thoughts?