The Palin Idolatry

[fi11222]

Hi everyone.

I am a Christian but my Faith has been badly and repeatedly shaken by what I understand to be an undercurrent of Idolatry within Christianity, particularly in the US.

When Sarah Palin was nominated as Republican VP candidate I has this impression most definitely.
Please do not stone me to death. I am posting this link here because I am looking for answers.


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In order to better formulate what I think the problem is and also to get feedback and hopefully trigger helpful discussion about what I perceive to be the problem, I wrote a couple pages and put them online. I would like to know how they are understood from a muslim perspective. It seems to me that Islam has kept a better memory than Christianity of what we owe God: utmost respect and absolute abhorrence of Idolatry. All comments welcome.



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[fi11222]

Sorry, the above message has been garbled in the publishing process and I canno find the edit button ...

 

[Hamayun]

You are right Brother. Where the Bible has been modified so many times the Quran on the other hand is in its original form.
It has not changed one bit for the last 1400 years.

 

[north_malaysian]

Please do not stone me to death.

We have like 1 gezillions other things to do than stoning people all year round...no worries...

P/S: Only Muslim married men who have sex with other women are allowed to be stoned in Islam. And only a handful of Muslim countries are practising this execution.

 

[alcurad]

I don't like palin and all, but the link you posted is a bit too overboard with the idolatry theme. yes we believe christianity to have been corrupted by pagan traditions, etc but I don't really see the connection when it comes to palin...

 

[fi11222]

I don't like palin and all, but the link you posted is a bit too overboard with the idolatry theme. yes we believe christianity to have been corrupted by pagan traditions, etc but I don't really see the connection when it comes to palin...

Did you read the section of the website on ancient deities like Ishtar or Astarte, Venus, etc.?

By the way, I believe there is a connection with Islam there. Ishtar is supposed to be the daughter of Sin, the moon God, in ancient Mesopotamian religion. Sin was always represented with a moon crescent like Allah.

If you assume that Allah had revealed himself to mankind before Muhammad and was known as Sin (or Nannar in Sumerian), you can then see that Ishtar (or Inanna in Sumerian) was a gross corruption of the idea of a monotheistic god. People wanted to worship lust so they invented a "daughter" to blasphemously go with God.

I believe that something similar is going on now within the Republican camp in the US.

 

[doorster]

I believe there is a connection with Islam there. Ishtar is supposed to be the daughter of Sin, the moon God, in ancient Mesopotamian religion. Sin was always represented with a moon crescent like Allah.

hm...:rollseyes^o)

 

[fi11222]

hm...:rollseyes^o)

Are you sure you did not misunderstand what I just said ?

 

[doorster]

Are you sure you did not misunderstand what I just said ?

knowing me, it is very likely that I did.

Peace!

 

[fi11222]

knowing me, it is very likely that I did.

Peace!

What I am trying to say is that Islam was the solution to this sort of problem in Arabia, Irak and the rest of the Middle East.

Before Muhammad came, the region was up to its neck in the idolatrous worship of Inanna/Ishtar and its various derivatives. After, nothing was left of that.

 

[doorster]

What I am trying to say is that Islam was the solution to this sort of problem in Arabia, Irak and the rest of the Middle East.

Before Muhammad came, the region was up to its neck in the idolatrous worship of Inanna/Ishtar and its various derivatives. Afterwards, nothing was left of that.

Thank You! I owe you more than just an apology now!!

Peace!

 

[barney]

Your first link Fi11221221, was simply a mishmash of highly dubious similisms. The best one is Palin on a motorcycle alongside the Hindu Goddess on a tiger.
Yep, thats what Palin thought when she sat astride the Harley. "Hey this shot makes me look just like that Hindu tiger riding Goddess....that will clinch some votes for sure."

I dont like Palin, I'm English and so havnt a say in weather she wins or not. I think she's pretty neocon and we could do with more stable hands at the helm right now.
She also has the asthetic qualities of a moose, and on that alone, if I was American, I'd vote against her.

 

[fi11222]

Thank You! I owe you more than just an apology now!!

Peace!

Thank you doorster for the noble gesture. Go bless you.

 

[fi11222]

Your first link Fi11221221, was simply a mishmash of highly dubious similisms. The best one is Palin on a motorcycle alongside the Hindu Goddess on a tiger. Yep, thats what Palin thought when she sat astride the Harley. "Hey this shot makes me look just like that Hindu tiger riding Goddess....that will clinch some votes for sure."

Before you reach a conclusion on what I posted I think you should read the whole site and not just the section on Palin.

The other sections give more detail information on the similarities I think there are between Palin and an ancient Goddess:

- This section regarding the ancient history of Ishtar and its derivatives.
- This section about what the Bible has to say about Idolatry
- This section about the modern Idolatry of female beauty.
- This section about the girl-with-guns archetype.

Have you read these four sections in detail ?

 

[Chuck]

Did you read the section of the website on ancient deities like Ishtar or Astarte, Venus, etc.?

By the way, I believe there is a connection with Islam there. Ishtar is supposed to be the daughter of Sin, the moon God, in ancient Mesopotamian religion. Sin was always represented with a moon crescent like Allah.

If you assume that Allah had revealed himself to mankind before Muhammad and was known as Sin (or Nannar in Sumerian), you can then see that Ishtar (or Inanna in Sumerian) was a gross corruption of the idea of a monotheistic god. People wanted to worship lust so they invented a "daughter" to blasphemously go with God.

I believe that something similar is going on now within the Republican camp in the US.

I would recommend first you learn about Islam properly before you make a comment about it. If there is no good introductory course on Islam available near by you then Sunni Path web site has good for online courses.

 

[doorster]

I would recommend first you learn about Islam properly before you make a comment about it. If there is no good introductory course on Islam available near by you then Sunni Path web site has good for online courses.

If I had a choice between LI and Sunni path to learn Islam from I'll choose LI

Brief illustrated Guide to understanding Islam​

 

[Chuck]

If I had a choice between LI and Sunni path to learn Islam from I'll choose LI

Brief illustrated Guide to understanding Islam​

Sunnipath has proper online courses. LI website is good but it doesn't follow course structure. But sure he can learn from people here and LI main website along with courses on Islam if he wants to take courses. I would recommend taking a course because learning on forums and website is not same as taking a class.

 

[doorster]

Sunnipath has proper online courses. LI website is good but it doesn't follow course structure. But sure he can learn from people here and LI main website along with courses on Islam if he wants to take courses. I would recommend taking a course because learning on forums and website is not same as taking a class.

I did not mean it like that: I meant that if I had a choice between remaining relatively ignorant and taking a course from them at sunni path, I'll choose LI because for most part LI is a non-sectarian site and does NOT actively teach a version of ****ism

3 sites are on top of my hate-list (joint number one)

1) Alkauther academy
1) islamqa
1) sunni path

among my most favourite are
1) islamonline.net
2) islam tomorrow
3) almaghrib
3) LI

 

[Chuck]

I did not mean it like that: I meant that if I had a choice between remaining relatively ignorant and taking a course from them at sunni path, I'll choose LI because for most part LI is a non-sectarian site and does NOT actively teach a version of ****ism

Well, sunni path has good teachers and I know few who have taken their courses from sunni path, and they said their courses were good and better than forums and reading articles. Non-online classes are better as their is personal interaction with the teacher. Online class rooms not the same, but still better then discussions on forums. Their 'understanding of Islam' course does NOT actively teach any sectarian version.

 

[barney]

Before you reach a conclusion on what I posted I think you should read the whole site and not just the section on Palin.

The other sections give more detail information on the similarities I think there are between Palin and an ancient Goddess:

- This section regarding the ancient history of Ishtar and its derivatives.
- This section about what the Bible has to say about Idolatry
- This section about the modern Idolatry of female beauty.
- This section about the girl-with-guns archetype.

Have you read these four sections in detail ?

Yes, and I took my tinfoil hat off, and it was still a mishmash of fantastical insanity. Palin is holding a gun. She holds a gun because she will get the NRA vote. She has no idea that it is a M16A3/1 that fires 5.56mmX45mm,semirimmed rounds. Its a black gun that will get her votes.

The Goddess stuff is simply batasscrazy fruitloopy nutjob laalaagaagaa evidently false rantings of the insane. I advise you to stay well clear of it for your own sanity.