the ruling on the niqab

[Marina-Aisha]

salam peeps,
Recently ive been feeling that i might wear the niqab but im not sure..i just wanted to know what the ruling on the niqab.......if i do decide to wear it will i not get a job?because im changing my job soon..salam

edit: also im looking to do a carer job for the elderly is it permissable to see elderly men nakeness?

 

[Insanely.Krazii]

http://islamqa.info/en/ref/2198

If you feel you're ready to do it then inshallah Allah will clear everything else and help you thru it =] Just have strong yaqeen (faith) in Allah.

 

[Banu_Hashim]

Salaamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu,

First of all, I congratulate you in wanting to further your self in imaan may Allah reward you.

In regards to the legal position of the niqaab I think the 'Ulema differed as to whether it is wajib or not. Something being wajib/fardh means it is a sin to abstain from it. The following question was asked to Sh. Abu Eesa Niamatullah (UK), who I believe is a very gifted student of knowledge of our times, especially in fiqh.

The Question
Asalamualikum. Ustadh! I am really confused. Please guide me about the commandment of the Deen regarding covering of the face for women. Also, some who do put on their veil, take them off during Umra and Haj saying that no piece of cloth shall touch the face during Umra and Haj. Please remove this confusion too. JazakAllahKhair

The Answer
Wa 'alaykum's-salam wa rahmatullah

I hold it to be recommended for women to cover their face with the niqab, but if she is unable to do so then she is not sinful wallahu a'lam.

And yes, the face-cover should be removed during the actual actions of the Hajj and 'Umrah and then put back on after one finishes. Also, it should be removed for the prayer as well of course.

AE

As regards to your other question (acting as a carer), I would ask someone who has knowledge. Sh. Abu Eesa is on facebook, you can post your question to him; or you can search on Islam Q&A (www.islamqa.com) or ask some other qualified Imam. All the best.

Wa 'alaykum asalaam wa rahmatullaah.

 

[Marina-Aisha]

Okay thank you I will, sorry could u post me or message me the Facebook page please, thanx. Thank you both for your advice I really am greatful

 

[ILuvAllah]

"And say to the Believing Women,to lower their gaze and guard their private parts. And they should not display their adornment save what is apparent therefrom. And they should place their covers over their bossoms. And they should not display their adornment except to their husbands or their fathers or the fathers of their husbands or their sons or the sons of their husbands or their brothers or their brother's sons or sister's sons` or their women or those whom their right hands posses or Those under their authority other than skillfull men or small children who are not aware of women's nakedness. And they should not strike their feet so as to make known what they hide of their adornment. O Believers turn you all together to Allah so that you may be successful."(24:31)
From the above verse the following points are derived: 1. Women have two types of "zeenah" i.e. beauty and adornment. (a) "ma zahara minha" What is already apparent from their adornment and beauty. (b) "ma yukhfaina min zinata hunne" That which is hidden from their adornment. 2. She is to cover her whole self publicly except those areas which are apparent from her adornment. These areas are the exposed areas which if covered will restrict daily work. (see 5:6). The other type of or adornment of a woman identified in the above verse is that which has been called as "ma yukhfaina min zinata hunne" That which is hidden from their adornment. This type of adornment is the one which becomes apparent when a woman strikes her feet or walks. Allah has ordered that this type of adornment be covered at all times. Thus the dress should be loose enough so as not to reveal the shape and features of the body which get
obvious when the woman strikes her feet or walks.
3. They are to place their covers or shrouds over their bosoms. In Sura 33:59 they are also ordered to bring over them their over garments while going in public:

"O Nabi! Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they bring their over-garments nearer to themselves (while in public); this will be more proper, that they may be recognised, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (33:59)
In public she is to take "Jilbaab" or over garment over herself according to above verse.
4. With her bosoms covered well, and dress loose enough so as not to reveal her hidden adornment, she is to maintain this type of dress in public in front of all relations. The only exceptions are: (1) Husband
(2) Fathers (Includes Grandparents as well).
(3) The Fathers of their husbands.
(4) Their sons.
(5) The sons of their husbands.
(6) Their brothers.
(7) Their brother's sons.
(8) Their sister's sons`.
(9) Their women.
(10) Those whom their right hands posses.
(11) Those under their authority other than skillfull men.
(12) Small children who are not aware of women's nakedness.

 

[ILuvAllah]

I think niqab is not recommended but it may be permissible cause when praying or doing tawaf , we are asked to remove the niqab. I did not see any women wearing niqab while performing omrah.

And Allah Knows best

It is better if you read the tafsir of Suran Nur about women's clothing, to understand better on this subject.

 

[ILuvAllah]

edit: also im looking to do a carer job for the elderly is it permissable to see elderly men nakeness?[/SIZE][/FONT]

No, dont do the carer work for men. you do care for women. I'm sure they would consider it for you.

 

[Marina-Aisha]

That's strange cos I posted the same question different forum and some sister said she does the same thing which she sees men like that. Okay maybe I'll ask imam. Thanx for all your helpful information.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

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I posted this video somewhere on one of my threads in the past, here it is again.

Part 1

Part 2

part 3

 

[Insanely.Krazii]

I think niqab is not recommended but it may be permissible cause when praying or doing tawaf , we are asked to remove the niqab. I did not see any women wearing niqab while performing omrah.

I just did Umrah last week and majority of the women there had their faces covered. It's well known that you do not wear the "niqab" for Umrah or Hajj whereas you instead let your veil fall freely over your face. Niqab has the gap for the eyes but if you just take a length of your hijab and let it cover your face in one layer then it's permissible.

Question

During Umrah and Hajj is it allowed to wear "niqab" ?.


Answer


Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.
It is forbidden for the woman to wear the niqab (veil) during the Hajj (pilgrimage) or the Umrah. Prophet Muhammad (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “A woman in Ihram (in the state of ritual consecration during Hajj or Umrah) should not cover her face or put on gloves”. Narrated by al-Bukhari. If she needed to cover her face because of being among some non Mahram men, in this case, she could use the garment on her head to do so. Aisha (may Allah pleased with her) said: “Men on camels (or on foot) used to pass by us while we were with the Prophet Muhammad (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and in the state of Ihram. We would cover our faces with our gowns when they passed by us, and then uncover them again”. (Reported by Abu Dawood). And Allah knows best.





Q 490. What is the ruling on covering the face with a Niqab in Hajj, because I
have read a Hadith whose meaning is that a woman in the state of Ihram should
not cover her face, nor should she wear gloves. And I have read another
statement attributed to ‘Aishah, may Allah be pleased with her, when they were
in Hajj, in which she said: “When men passed by us, we used to cover our faces
and once we had passed by them, we would uncover our faces.” How may we
reconcile these two statements?

Shaykh Ibn al-'Uthaymeen answered:

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[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]The correct view in this is what is proven by
the Hadith, and that is the Prophet’s prohibition to a woman in the state of
Ihram from covering her face. So, the woman in Ihram is forbidden to wear a
Niqab in any circumstances, whether unrelated men pass by her or not:
accordingly, it is unlawful for a woman in a state of Ihram to wear a Niqab,
whether she is performing Hajj or ‘Umrah.

The Niqab is well-known to
women: It is to cover the face with a veil which has two holes for the
eyes. As for the Hadith of ‘Aishah, may Allah be pleased with her, it does not
contradict the prohibition of wearing a Niqab, because the hadith of ‘Aishah,
may Allah be pleased with her, it is not mentioned that the women wore the
Niqab, it only says that they covered their faces, without using a Niqab. This
is something which is essential if men pass by women, they must cover their
faces, because veiling the face from unrelated men is obligatory, so based upon
this, we say that wearing the Niqab is unlawful for a woman in the state of
Ihram in any circumstances; as for covering her face, It is better for her to
uncover her face, it is obligatory for her to cover it, however, she should do
so with something other than a Niqab.” [Fatawa Arkanul-Islam, page 731,
question 490]

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Shaykh-ul-Islam
Ibn Taymiyyah said:

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state of Ihraam to cover her face with an adjoining/alternative (cloth) other
than the niqaab and the burqa’. [Ikhtiyaaraat al-Fiqhiyyah min Fataawaa Shaikh
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[Banu_Hashim]

^JazaakAllahu Khayran. There is also an interesting debate on the issue below. When determining an issue like this there so many evidences which come into play and knowledge of usool al-fiqh is needed. I think we can all agree that it is highly recommended at the very least.

 

[roohani.doctor]

why is a woman not allowed to wear niqab while in hajj? I have read the hadith etc but I was wondering what the reasons are?

 

[Marina-Aisha]

Thanx everyone
Any question is okay to become a carer for elderly? Is okay to see elderly women naked I'm sorry I'm totally getting confused.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

I think niqab is not recommended but it may be permissible cause when praying or doing tawaf , we are asked to remove the niqab. I did not see any women wearing niqab while performing omrah.

And Allah Knows best

It is better if you read the tafsir of Suran Nur about women's clothing, to understand better on this subject.

Can you prove from hadeeth that the niqab is not recommended? Taking it off during hajj or 'umrah is not evidence that it is not recommended; the Messenger's wives use to wear niqab but only took it off during hajj or 'umrah and would cover their faces temporarily when men would approach them and take it back off once they passed. Women can still cover their faces during hajj or 'umrah but under the condition that their niqab is not tailor fitted.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

Thanx everyone
Any question is okay to become a carer for elderly? Is okay to see elderly women naked I'm sorry I'm totally getting confused.

It is OK to be a carer for an elderly woman but it is not permissible for you to see another woman naked, even if she is old.

 

[Marina-Aisha]

Omg r u serious? Why? Can u quote me some Hadith or Quran quotes.

 

[Insanely.Krazii]

Omg r u serious? Why? Can u quote me some Hadith or Quran quotes.

What is established among the fuqaha’ is that the ‘awrah of a woman with another woman is the area between the navel and the knee, whether the woman is her mother or sister or is not her mahram. It is not permissible for a woman to look at the area between the navel and the knee of another woman, except in cases of necessity such as medical treatment and the like.
This does not mean that a woman may sit among other women with all of her body uncovered except the area between the navel and the knee. No one does that except women who are promiscuous and negiligent, or immoral and evildoers. The words of the scholars, “The ‘awrah is the area between the navel and the knee” should not be misunderstood, because this does not mean that this is how women should always dress and show themselves among their sisters and friends. No wise person would accept that and it is not what the fitrah (sound human nature) calls for.
Rather the way a woman should dress among other women is in clothes that cover properly and express her modesty and dignity. She should not show anything except that which appears when she is working and serving others, such as the head, neck, forearms and feet, as we have mentioned when discussing mahrams above.
The Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas has explained what a woman is not permitted to uncover in front of her mahrams and other women. We have quoted this in the answer to question no. 34745.
We ask Allaah to guide us and you.
And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A


~Link: http://islamqa.info/en/ref/82994


Hope I helped!

 

[ILuvAllah]

Can you prove from hadeeth that the niqab is not recommended? Taking it off during hajj or 'umrah is not evidence that it is not recommended; the Messenger's wives use to wear niqab but only took it off during hajj or 'umrah and would cover their faces temporarily when men would approach them and take it back off once they passed. Women can still cover their faces during hajj or 'umrah but under the condition that their niqab is not tailor fitted.

I dont have the proof, thats why I told her to research herself on the subject. I have heard from my aunt that it was only recommended for the wives of the Prophet (pbuh). I'm not sure how true that is cause I have not researched on it any further. I'm not discouraging her to wear the niqab. Please dont misunderstand my language.

 

[ILuvAllah]

What is established among the fuqaha’ is that the ‘awrah of a woman with another woman is the area between the navel and the knee, whether the woman is her mother or sister or is not her mahram. It is not permissible for a woman to look at the area between the navel and the knee of another woman, except in cases of necessity such as medical treatment and the like.
This does not mean that a woman may sit among other women with all of her body uncovered except the area between the navel and the knee. No one does that except women who are promiscuous and negiligent, or immoral and evildoers. The words of the scholars, “The ‘awrah is the area between the navel and the knee” should not be misunderstood, because this does not mean that this is how women should always dress and show themselves among their sisters and friends. No wise person would accept that and it is not what the fitrah (sound human nature) calls for.
Rather the way a woman should dress among other women is in clothes that cover properly and express her modesty and dignity. She should not show anything except that which appears when she is working and serving others, such as the head, neck, forearms and feet, as we have mentioned when discussing mahrams above.
The Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas has explained what a woman is not permitted to uncover in front of her mahrams and other women. We have quoted this in the answer to question no. 34745.
We ask Allaah to guide us and you.
And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A

~Link: http://islamqa.info/en/ref/82994


Hope I helped!

Thanks for the info, I was not aware of it either.

 

[TrueStranger]

Scholars have differing opinions when it comes to the Niqab. Some scholars are of the opinion that it is Sunnah (Voluntary act), while another group of scholars are of the view that it is wajib (Obligatory). Sisters should look at both sides and decide for themselves which scholarly opinion they personally agrees with.

As for taking care of the elderly, you will receive different fatwas when it comes to this issue. Just remember that a fatwa is optional for the individual to follow or not, it is not binding. So keep your situation and circumstance in mind when agreeing with one fatwa or another.

I think the elderly are dependent on you when it comes to certain private matters of their life. You're a caregiver, and hopefully your intentions are solely to help them. From my personal perspective it's much better to work with elderly women than men, even if you assume that elderly men might be asexual. I personally have no idea what it means when the Quran mentions men who have no physical desire (I thought it meant old men or those who are not of sane mind. Allah knows best) or what their right hands possess.

And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed. (24:31)