The Scientific Inaccuracies of Islam

[guyabano]

don't make false, or at least pre-concieved claims.

Regards.

Like what ?

I'm sorry, but noone could or can proove that a god exists. Anyway, this topic doesn't belong here and will certainly never come to an end.

 

[Trumble]

I'd love it if you could get some proof or source for that please? Because making assumptions isn't sufficient to prove anything. Atleast from what i've seen here in the Comparative section.


If you can't find any, then i don't think that argument stands. And yes, there should be info since our history is packed with it on life of the Pre-Islamic period. And then what comes after etc.

I was not attempting to 'prove' anything, it is obvious that such a 'proof' is not possible. I can't 'prove' Mohammed or co-authors came into contact with such knowledge any more than you can prove that that he didn't; the point is that the possibility cannot be discounted. Neither is there likely to be a 'source' for possible, unrecorded events we can never establish with any certainty, however much 'info' we may have on what life was like at the time. That applies to last week as much as 1400 years ago.

Just to clarify some stuff; Muhammad (peace be upon him) stayed in the desert life for a his youth, he was a shepherd (like all the prophets), when he grew older he was a business man for a little while, then he got married, and after that he was a father, then he got the revelation at the age of 40. Most surahs which talk about this (i.e. embryology etc.) were in the Makkan Period. I.e. when he (peace be upon him) had rarely left his home city of Makkah.

Nobody is saying Mohammed went to Med School. Are you saying they had no healers, physicians (or what passed for one at the time) or travellers who may have come across them in Makkah? Your position amounts to no more than "it isn't very likely Mohammed ever came across knowledge that had actually been around a while". It may not be, but the alternative is far more unlikely! Although, of course, I know you won't see it that way.. which is why such debates are rather futile really! :smile:

 

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Agreed, there were people who travelled to Makkah. Maybe bedouins or other illiterate arabs, i wouldn't say that a Greek scientist would come there, and if there ever was - then evidence is required. Since that would, if ever - be a rare occurence.


Anyway, to use this as an example;

Prophet Mohummed says "If a fly falls into one of your containers [of food or drink], immerse it completely (falyaghmis-hu kullahu) before removing it, for under one of its wings there is venom and under another there is its antidote. "

http://www.islamicboard.com/health-...es-reveal-scientific-miracles-fly-hadith.html


You've seen this discussion before, and i don't really want a specific response to the actual fly hadith itself.

Rather, what i'm focusing on is the fact that it would rarely be known to anyone at that time that there are anti biotics within the fly. Even Ibn al Qayyim, a great scholar and someone who came 700years after the Messenger of Allaah, Muhammad (peace be upon him.) He studied medicine and writ a book on the Prophetic medicines. Yet he was unable to find an explanation to this hadith, but he stated that we believe in Allaah and His Messenger, even if there is something we lack in understanding.


So if someone who had loads of resources (the Muslims were a superpower in the world at his time) and he was unable to find any specific explanation to this hadith. Then can we really say that what the Messenger of Allaah said is from a contemporary? Infact, this hadith was used as a joke by the anti islamists throughout history, yet we find the answer to it only today.


We as Muslims believe it is all from Allaah, but what i dislike is when people claim that it is from contemporaries when there is no validity in that argument. When it has no proof etc.





Peace.