The St. Petersburg Declaration by "Secular Muslims"

[- Qatada -]

Could this be an early sign of a reformation, like what happened with Christiainity?

Nope:


The final Messenger of Allaah, Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:

"There will not cease to be a group from my ummah, dominant upon the truth. The ones who abandon them will not be able to harm them, until the decree of Allaah comes."

Authentically Recorded in Sahih Muslim
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[vpb]

if Islam wouldn't be protected by Allah swt, Islam would dissappear long time ago.

 

[جوري]

Nope:


The final Messenger of Allaah, Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:

"There will not cease to be a group from my ummah, dominant upon the truth. The ones who abandon them will not be able to harm them, until the decree of Allaah comes."

Authentically Recorded in Sahih Muslim
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Yup.. I think the New true Muslims are no longer from the east though, but the new reverts. Sob7an Allah.. I believe it is from them that the army for the wars of the end will assemble. Allah A3lam

 

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


True say ^


Also, Allaah has preserved the scripture for us for over 14 centuries now - And it will remain that way since it is the truth from Allaah:

We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

[Qur'an Al-Hijr 15:9]​

 

[جوري]

:wasalamex


True say ^


Also, Allaah has preserved the scripture for us for over 14 centuries now - And it will remain that way since it is the truth from Allaah:

We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

[Qur'an Al-Hijr 15:9]​

lol... I just had another look at the page.. pls have a look at who has endorsed this
Endorsed by:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Magdi Allam
Mithal Al-Alusi
Shaker Al-Nabulsi
Nonie Darwish
Afshin Ellian
Tawfik Hamid
Shahriar Kabir
Hasan Mahmud
Wafa Sultan
Amir Taheri
Ibn Warraq<< need I say more? :rollseyes +o(
Manda Zand Ervin
Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

 

[Goku]

Ibn Warraaq, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Nonnie Darwish are Ex-Muslims, Ayaan Hirsi Ali in particular is a **** because she went on BBC and rambled on about how she would like Iran bombed.

Those 3 at least are misleading others into getting others to think they are "secular" Muslims when they arent even Muslim, they are anti-Muslim. I dont know why they feel the need to lie, but then again they're experts at it, after all, thats the job of Ibn Warraq and Ayaan Ali.

 

[جوري]

Ibn Warraaq, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Nonnie Darwish are Ex-Muslims, Ayaan Hirsi Ali in particular is a **** because she went on BBC and rambled on about how she would like Iran bombed.

Those 3 at least are misleading others into getting others to think they are "secular" Muslims when they arent even Muslim, they are anti-Muslim. I dont know why they feel the need to lie, but then again they're experts at it after, after all, thats the job of Ibn Warraq and Ayaan Ali.

Any brouhaha against Islam will get prime time... it is calculated

وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ {54}​

[Yusufali 3:54] And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.

 

[Sami Zaatari]

lol, to begin with, half of the names on those list are NOT muslims, they are apostates. ibn warraq is a known anti-Islamic bigot. so is nonie darwish, and wafa sultan! this is the new tool they have invented against Islam, bring up posers, pretending to be muslim, and make declarations in the name of Islam, how conveniant.

and im not a takfiri neither, but when a muslim says no to sharia law, and no to fatwas, they become kaffirs, that is if they dont do it with ignorance, and i know for a fact that the supposed 'muslims' on that list have studied Islam quite well and know this, hence they cant be excuses for ignorance, and hence under the Islamic concensus they are apostates, so these people (not the posers such as darwish) are not even muslims! so lol, you got a list of non muslims pretending to be muslims, and another group of 'muslims' who contradict every fundamental and basic of Islam which basically throws them out of Islam.

and notice the zionist tone in their message which even contradicts their entire blank declaration! they state:

to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baha’is, and all members of non-Muslim faith communities: we stand with you as free and equal citizens;

so we stand as equal citizens! yay! but then look what they say at the end:

Before any of us is a member of the Umma, the Body of Christ, or THE CHOSEN PEOPLE

erm excuse me? how can we be equal when you have a group of people claiming to be the chosen people of god?!!!!!!!! lol this is too funny, so they basically contradict themselves within a few passages, perhaps they should send this declaration to the zionist jews!

either way, this declaration is a joke endorsed by jokers. dont even get me started on that joker wafa sultan who made a clown out of herself on al-jazeera when all she did was spew lies after lies which has been refuted. just type in wafa sultan refutes on youtube and you will see a wonderful presenation by a former christian who is now muslim refuting her claims made on al-jazeera.

 

[abdil han]

Could this be an early sign of a reformation, like what happened with Christiainity?

no,it is not possible...

this will never happen to our blessed deen...

the one who protects islam is Allah(c.c.)...
thats why Kur'an is still the same as at the beginning...

i am just very sorry for those people who lost their faith and akherah anyway....

 

[Trumble]

I don't agree, they just want us to give up our beliefs the same way the people before us did. May Allaah keep the muslims steadfast, ameen.

I don't see that anywhere in the statement. The authors are merely defending their right not to have those beliefs, and any rights/obligations/punishments associated with them, forced on those who don't share them.

 

[north_malaysian]

Ibn Warraaq, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Nonnie Darwish are Ex-Muslims

Maybe they reverted back to Islam? Oopps my mistake... Secular Islam.

 

[Pygoscelis]

I believe it is from them that the army for the wars of the end will assemble. Allah A3lam

I truly wish these religious messages didn't always have to sound so violent.

 

[SATalha]

I truly wish these religious messages didn't always have to sound so violent.

Doesnt sound violent.....just inevitable. But war should be avoided at all cost, but what can you do when it come knocking on your door, with a big sign saying "Made in Pennsylvania".:? .

Anyway as to your Previous comments, these forms of "Islam" will never prevail. The reason for this, is becuase Allah has promised that the Quran will be preserved till the last day. So try they might but Islam will never be diluted, there will always be a generation that will uphold the truth . May Allah make me and the other Brothers and Sisters part of that generation, Inshallah. Ameen

 

[AzizMostafa]

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[vpb]

Doesnt sound violent.....just inevitable. But war should be avoided at all cost, but what can you do when it come knocking on your door, with a big sign saying "Made in Pennsylvania". .

Anyway as to your Previous comments, these forms of "Islam" will never prevail. The reason for this, is becuase Allah has promised that the Quran will be preserved till the last day. So try they might but Islam will never be diluted, there will always be a generation that will uphold the truth . May Allah make me and the other Brothers and Sisters part of that generation, Inshallah. Ameen

lol, previous generations have tried even more than today';s generations to dilute islam, not even communism could, so I don't know why are they trying lol....

 

[SATalha]

lol, previous generations have tried even more than today';s generations to dilute islam, not even communism could, so I don't know why are they trying lol....

I know, people need to realise that as long as the Quran is there, then Islam will never be diluted.

 

[Sami Zaatari]

ibn warraq is hiding his identity and himself, one of the authors is a lesbian, hirsi is also in hiding, lol and these are the people who are going to defeat Islam?! how about when most of them have the guts to even come out and show themselves instead of hiding then maybe they might be able to achieve their goals. and plzzz dont say oh but they are being threatened! many muslim apologists suffer threats and acts of violence, i have been threatened many times by people, i dont mind at all, cause i got the truth and god on my side, why should i be scared? these losers know they have nothing on their side which is why their not willing to put their lives on the line for it, and thats says it all. The prophet Muhammad and his companions put their life and wealth all at risk for Islam, do you expect such losers as ibn warraq and hirsi who hide like ants to actually be able to stand up to mighty Islam? i think not.

 

[Zman]

ibn warraq is hiding his identity and himself, one of the authors is a lesbian, hirsi is also in hiding, lol and these are the people who are going to defeat Islam?!

Hirsi is in hiding? Where?

Isn't she in America, after her beloved Netherlands expelled her, after years of loyal service?

 

[SATalha]

Hirsi is in hiding? Where?

Isn't she in America, after her beloved Netherlands expelled her, after years of loyal service?

Is Hiris the lady that came from Somalia and had a very UN-ISLAMIC experience their?

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^Yea. She blames the ignorance of society on Islam. Sorry I dont need non Muslims representing my religion! Its like having a male teach us what its like to have a baby! Paleeaseee.