The Sword of Christ

Idris said:
I am not sure where you get your "facts" from but maybe you should read this.
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=43087&ln=eng
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According to that site the answer would be YES, Islam was spread by the sword:
It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (12/14):

Islam spread by means of proof and evidence to those who listened to the message and responded to it, and it spread by means of force and the sword to those who were stubborn and arrogant, until they were overwhelmed and became no longer stubborn, and submitted to that reality.

And Allaah knows best.
(emphasis mine)
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It seems to say that in Islam's view, taking up the sword was justified. But this discussion has never question anyone's motives for using the sword, just whether or not it was part of any religions modus operandi. I would have said it was not any more a part of Islam than it is of Christianity till you pointed me to this source. This source seems to both acknowledge its intentional use and then justify it within Islam.

Is that what you wanted me to get from it?
 
Islam spread by means of proof and evidence to those who listened to the message and responded to it, and it spread by means of force and the sword to those who were stubborn and arrogant, until they were overwhelmed and became no longer stubborn, and submitted to that reality.
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What a great refference. I have to keep this one.
 
Grace Seeker said:
It seems to say that in Islam's view, taking up the sword was justified. But this discussion has never question anyone's motives for using the sword, just whether or not it was part of any religions modus operandi. I would have said it was not any more a part of Islam than it is of Christianity till you pointed me to this source. This source seems to both acknowledge its intentional use and then justify it within Islam.

Is that what you wanted me to get from it?
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From what I understood, Islamic rule spread to many places by the sword (in other words, it was only through war that countries became part of the Islamic empire). But as for the people converting to Islam and actually becoming Muslims, that was not done by sword (expect perhaps for a few isolated incidences in history, but that is not permissible anyway).
 
I still like
Islam spread by means of proof and evidence to those who listened to the message and responded to it, and it spread by means of force and the sword to those who were stubborn and arrogant, until they were overwhelmed and became no longer stubborn, and submitted to that reality.
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It speeks well to intollorance mixed with facts.
 

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