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As bad and extreme as the Taliban were, it was still better than what they have there now. Now, the country is in far worse condition than when the Taliban were in charge. That is what you get when you turn to the kuffar!
 
How "Islamic" is the Taleban?


* Zarmeena Case*

Zarmeena, a mother of seven children was found guilty of beating her husband to death.

During her execution, it's been mentioned that the family of her deceased husband announced to the Taleban that they FORGAVE her several minutes before execution.... but the Taleban refused to stop the execution as "THEY HAD ALREADY ANNOUNCE IT TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE".

Under Qisas, when the family of the deceased agreed to forgave the murderer, she MUST BE FREED of Execution by any means...

Just to pleased thousands of people, they ignored Islamic rule....imsad

http://www.rawa.org/murder-w.htm
 
How "Islamic" is the Taleban?


* Zarmeena Case*

Zarmeena, a mother of seven children was found guilty of beating her husband to death.

During her execution, it's been mentioned that the family of her deceased husband announced to the Taleban that they FORGAVE her several minutes before execution.... but the Taleban refused to stop the execution as "THEY HAD ALREADY ANNOUNCE IT TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE".

Under Qisas, when the family of the deceased agreed to forgave the murderer, she MUST BE FREED of Execution by any means...

Just to pleased thousands of people, they ignored Islamic rule....imsad

http://www.rawa.org/murder-w.htm

http://www.rawa.org/zarmeena2.htm
 
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* JAMILA CASE *

Jamila was given a sentence of stoning to death for adultery.

What is the "adultery" she has done?

Her husband caught her TRYING TO FLEE with another man - which is amounted to ADULTERY for the Taleban?

Adultery liable for stoning to death must be an illicit sexual relation between a married man and a married woman, or the party (either man/woman) which is married where the consummation happened and being witnessed by 4 fair males.

Edit: It seems more apropriate to explain it less graphically like this:
Full coitus needs to be performed before it can be considered as adultery

Catching your wife running with another man IS NOT under Adultery liable for stoning.

Islamic laws have procedures, need evidence, need fair witnesses...

http://www.rawa.org/stoned.htm
 
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Bro RAWA are known liars, you should not take your information from them.
 
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It was posted up some where in the forum... sorry I don't remember where.
 
Malaikah said:
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It was posted up some where in the forum... sorry I don't remember where.
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So, I dont know whether they're lying or not... BUT if whatever they reported are the truth......... I am so sad to see a group of people who wanted to impose their "Islamic" laws UN-ISLAMICALLY....
 
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So, I dont know whether they're lying or not... BUT if whatever they reported are the truth......... I am so sad to see a group of people who wanted to impose their "Islamic" laws UN-ISLAMICALLY....
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when you go to unreliable sites for your news, listen to media lies, then ofcourse you will parrot the ignornace you talk about. Why don't you go back to watching your hindu movies and particpate in topics you have some knowledge one. Don't you know gheebah of your Muslim brothers is haraam and is like eating the flesh of your brother, and you take non-muslim sources to indulge in such sins?
 
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when you go to unreliable sites for your news, listen to media lies, then ofcourse you will parrot the ignornace you talk about. Why don't you go back to watching your hindu movies and particpate in topics you have some knowledge one. Don't you know gheebah of your Muslim brothers is haraam and is like eating the flesh of your brother, and you take non-muslim sources to indulge in such sins?
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Perhaps instead of telling him to stop watching Hindu movies you could give an example of how RAWA are liars? Perhaps an article by any respected international body or journalist that shows how humanitarian and just the cuddly Taliban were?
 
Keltoi said:
Perhaps instead of telling him to stop watching Hindu movies you could give an example of how RAWA are liars? Perhaps an article by any respected international body or journalist that shows how humanitarian and just the cuddly Taliban were?
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are you afghan, or paki? do you have close friends or relatives from there? what is your source of information? or his? some bunch of sites that list crap? Like said, some people here talk as if they are experts, what do they know except what little trash they pick up from online and their tv box lies at home.
 
Among the accounts of mutilations, beatings and arbitrary executions there was evidence of a new abomination: the torture of children. An unknown number of infants were savagely beaten during the Islamic militia's 14-month occupation of Taloqan, the former headquarters of the Alliance, usually for the supposed crimes of their parents." (Source: The Times [U.K.], 11/13/01)

"The barbarity of the Taliban plumbed new depths when troops shot dead eight boys for daring to laugh, sickened refugees revealed yesterday. The teenage lads had been chuckling at the soldiers who suddenly raised their Kalashnikov rifles and gunned them down. It was one of a string of atrocities in the besieged Afghanistan city of Kunduz, which was last night poised to fall to the Northern Alliance. At least 300 frightened Taliban were killed by men from their own side because they wanted to surrender." (Source: The Sun [U.K.], 11/19/01

"The Taliban is jailing children as young as 10 in Kabul to root out dissent, it is claimed today. According to French journalist Michel Peyrard, who was held by the Taliban for 25 days, the biggest threat to the extremist regime is its own paranoia. He said his fellow detainees included several children. On one occasion the nephews of an escaped political prisoner - aged 10, 13 and 19 - were rounded up. The eldest was tortured and subjected to a mock execution. The Taliban also jails leaders and military commanders for being traitors on only the flimsiest evidence." (Source: The Evening Standard (London), 11/9/01) ATROCITY

"The BBC has confirmed that the central Afghan town of Bamiyan was totally destroyed by the Taleban before they fled over the weekend. Evidence has also emerged of Bosnian-style ethnic cleansing in the region involving the execution of hundreds of local ethnic Hazara men." (Source: BBC News, 11/13/01)

September 1996 -- Upon capturing Kabul the Taliban castrated President Najibullah, dragged his body behind a jeep for several rounds of the Palace and then shot him dead. His brother was similarly tortured and then throttled to death. (Source: Department of Defense)

January 1998 -- In the Western province of Faryab, the Taliban massacred approximately 600 Uzbek villagers. Western aid workers who later investigated the incident said civilians were dragged from their homes, lined up and gunned down. (Source: Department of Defense)

August 2000 -- Taliban execute POWs in the streets of Heart as a lesson to the local population. (Source: Department of Defense)

Massacre at Yakaolang -- Taliban forces committed a massacre in Yakaolang in January 2001. The victims were primarily Hazaras. The massacre began on January 8, 2001, and continued for four days. The Taliban detained about 300 civilian adult males, including staff members of local humanitarian organizations. The men were herded to assembly points, and then shot by firing squad in public view. According to Human Rights Watch, about 170 men are confirmed to have been killed. According to Amnesty International, eyewitnesses reported the deliberate killing of dozens of civilians hiding in a mosque: Taliban soldiers fired rockets into a mosque where some 73 women, children and elderly men had taken shelter. (Source: State Department)

Massacre at Robatak Pass -- The May 2000 massacre took place near the Robatak pass. 31 bodies were found one site, of these, 26 were positively identified as civilians. The victims were Hazara Shi'as. (Source: State Department)

Massacre in Bamiyan -- When the Taliban recaptured Bamiyan in 1999, there were reports that Taliban forces carried out summary executions upon entering the city. According to Amnesty International, hundreds of men, and some instances women and children, were separated from their families, taken away, and killed. Human Rights Watch reports that besides executing civilians, the Taliban burned homes and used detainees for forced labor. (Source: State Department)

Massacre in Mazar-I-Sharif -- In August 1998, the Taliban captured Mazar-I-Sharif. There were reports that between 2,000 and 5,000 men, women and children -- mostly ethnic Hazara civilians -- were massacred by the Taliban after the takeover of Mazar-I-Sharif. During the massacre, the Taliban forces carried out a systematic search for male members for the ethnic Hazara, Tajik, and Uzbek communities in the city. Human Rights Watch estimates that scores, perhaps hundreds, of Hazara men and boys were summarily executed. There were also reports that women and girls were raped and abducted during the Taliban takeover of the city. (Source: State Department)


Yeah, I know they are all lies...
 
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there is no doubt that the taliban was far from being perfect islamic government. they would use islam laws but then add their own spin on things. during the taliban regime women were banned form being educated, which is in a contradiction of how islam tells me to treat women. children's toys were banned, this is also in a contraction of islam, as it has reported in hadith that when the prophet (pbuh) wife aisha was small she use to play with dolls that had wings on it. so this is an indication that it's halah for children to have toys.
they would punish women with punishment which were not even prescribed by islam. women that were caught running an education center were put in jail. women were not allowed to work. and because many of the women's male relatives were killed off in the wars. the women and children were left to fend for themselves and give their children moldy bread. in islam it's halah for the woman to work if she has to.and those women's case they had to work
 
time to cool off. time out for this thread.
 
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