The worlds first Islamic car

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I would buy one if it came to England and that I could afforded it and the other things you need for a car i.e Car Tax, insureance and fuel.
 
Sabeeha said:
Oh, you could just stop the car, but what with modern tech today i'm sure within a few years they'll have the car driving by itself!:D
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Yeh giv it 10 years :D [By the time our kids drive] :okay:
 
True! My grand father is waiting for a car like that! He never learnt to drive!!lol!
 
smile said:
the car does NOT look cool
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It's so much cooler this way:
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I'd buy that and encourage others as well to support Muslim businesses. I already buy only foreign cars :)
 
islamirama said:
I'd buy that and encourage others as well to support Muslim businesses. I already buy only foreign cars :)
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Yeah, but you live in the States, so you're bound to prefer imports since American cars tend to be a bit pants, really. :p

Are there many Muslims working at Honda, BMW, Rover or Renault?

Also, I apologise for assuming this was the first car made by a Muslim country. Please pardon my ignorance in that regard.
 
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How can it be an Islamic car when the company that produces it claims it to be cheap while the government protects it by imposing 300-400% import duty charges to foreign-made cars, hence not allowing a level-field competition?

How can it be Islamic when it lacks basic safety measures like airbag and ABS for local market, while the exported versions have these features at reduced prices?

It becomes Islamic when the company that produces it, starts acting Islamically responsible to its own local market.
 
Muezzin said:
Yeah, but you live in the States, so you're bound to prefer imports since American cars tend to be a bit pants, really. :p

Are there many Muslims working at Honda, BMW, Rover or Renault?

Also, I apologise for assuming this was the first car made by a Muslim country. Please pardon my ignorance in that regard.
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I'm sure there are Muslims working at Honda, bmw, rover or any other company you mention. How many? that is another issue.

and yes, foriegn cars are way more reliable and last much longer than your americans like FORD (Fix or repair daily) ;D
 
Muslim Knight said:
How can it be an Islamic car when the company that produces it claims it to be cheap while the government protects it by imposing 300-400% import duty charges to foreign-made cars, hence not allowing a level-field competition?

How can it be Islamic when it lacks basic safety measures like airbag and ABS for local market, while the exported versions have these features at reduced prices?

It becomes Islamic when the company that produces it, starts acting Islamically responsible to its own local market.
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excellent post!
 
Muslim Knight said:
How can it be an Islamic car when the company that produces it claims it to be cheap while the government protects it by imposing 300-400% import duty charges to foreign-made cars, hence not allowing a level-field competition?

How can it be Islamic when it lacks basic safety measures like airbag and ABS for local market, while the exported versions have these features at reduced prices?

It becomes Islamic when the company that produces it, starts acting Islamically responsible to its own local market.
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I thought only in malaysia they lacks basic safety due to our own transport policy and regulations.

But when they bring it to overseas they have to follow the overseas country regulation.

Anyway, its the Malaysian fault too because they never complaint about it. And sometimes they don't even wear the seatbelts when they are driving. And how many of back passengers wear seat belts. And is hard to find baby car sit in the cars...and you can easily find the babies or toddlers roaming around the car and sometimes i find parents putting their babies on the dashboard back of the car. :ooh:
 
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i wonder where north_malaysian is. he hasn't been here since before eid. i hope he's ok.
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maybe we can get north_malaysian one of these "islamic" cars. :D
 
When I think of something being produced islamically, I think of a manufacturer providing a work environment condusive to practicing Islam - fair wages, good benefits, halal cafeteria, adhan called, breaks to pray, etc etc etc. I specifically buy my clothes from a company that provides that (shukr), and would be interested in purchasing other products from other companies that do this.

Sticking a compass in a car and calling it islamic doesn't entice me. Meh.
 
As-salaamu 'Alaykum,

Ohhh, I definitely love the hijaab idea. I have begged my father for the longest time for tinted windows because sometimes I have to fix mt hijaab in the car and I dont want people staring at me. I wonder what else they have plans for.

Ohh, I also hope BMW picks up on some of those ideas Insha-Allaah so when I get a BMW, Im fully satisfied :D

Was-Salaamu 'alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah
 
Assalamualaykum

Muj4h1d4 said:
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Errmm....ok. As long as it does a maximum of 200 miles an hour, I'm in :D
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:okay::D :giggling: very funny.

But I agree that it is great to see that we muslims are inventive and are making cars!

Umm Hurairah said:
Asalaamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu,

I love it and all but I can't help but think that all that money being used for this car could possibly be put to a better use like helping Muslim countries.
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I also agree and hope they will give money from their profits to the poor and homeless around the world.

Assalamualaykum
*KB*
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^^Yep loving the idea about BMW Sister Umm_Qaylah
 
Sabeeha said:
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Oh man, whatever next! It should be interesting, tho what is the compartment for a headscarf for? The scarf supposed to be on the head,lol!
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:mmokay:I was thinking the same thing about the compartment of the scarf lol. But maybe a compartment for a praying rug or so would be mor beneficial
 
Just what is an Islamic car?


IKIM (Institute for Islamic Understanding Malaysia) VIEWS:
By Dr Syed Ali Tawfik al-Attas,
Director General
The term ‘Islamic’ betrays an activity (amal), one that is derived from the fundamental elements of the worldview of Islam and it is not something indicative of ritual appearance. It refers to an activity or action and by necessity an actor.



IT WAS another Sunday morning. It had been raining the night before and it was still raining the following morning. The sky was still overcast; the sun had not been seen for days.


Not exactly the kind of welcome to the day; certainly not the kind of day that could put one in a cheerful mood. So already my temperament, much like the weather, was indecisive.


It would not take much of an impetus to decide the mood my temperance would follow. I decided, perhaps due to a spell of fleeting boredom, to read the newspaper, and that’s when it happened.


I went from being wilfully undecided to angry and insulted. But you may ask, what could have caused this sudden swing in temperament?
That which caused me to become angry and insulted was an article on Proton's “Islamic car” concept.


Reporting from Tehran, the national news agency Bernamasaid that, “Malaysia, together with Iran and Turkey plans to produce ‘Islamic cars’ for the global market.”


This of course was according to Proton Holdings Bhd managing director Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir. He however, did not claim the proposal was his idea, rather, according to the report the idea was mooted by Iran.


The cars are apparently “expected to have Islamic features such as the compass kiblat reading and compartments for keeping the Quran and scarves.”


A complete perusal of the article betrays the fact that the focus was not on making a car “Islamic”, but rather on using the term “Islamic” as an advertising tool purely for economic gain.


The article quoted the managing director of Proton Holdings Bhd as having said that “the car will have all the Islamic features”, a statement which assumes he knows what the term “Islamic” means, and what those features are that make a car Islamic.


Is he correct? Does he indeed know what the term “Islamic” conveys? The term “Islamic”, contrary to popular modernist belief, is not something indicative of ritual appearance.


In truth, the term “Islamic” betrays an activity (amal), one that is derived from the fundamental elements of the worldview of Islam. As such it necessarily requires an actor (pengamal).


As far as the article is concerned, the term “Islamic” refers primarily to the features associated with an inanimate object, one that by definition is devoid of an actor and by virtue of which cannot act (mengamal).


Why is this so? Clearly by virtue of the fact that we have said earlier that the term “Islamic” refers to an activity or action and by necessity an actor, logically then there must be a system of laws governing that action, namely the syariah.


Yet, how can one assume that the possibility of conceptualising a car said to be “Islamic” exists when we have pointed out that such a notion is connected to an activity and therefore a system of laws, the syariah in this case, a system interpreted not only in accordance with erudite scholarship but defined by the fundamental elements of the worldview of Islam?


Clearly, in this case they have taken the meaning of the term “Islamic” merely to refer to a ritual cloak, an outer manifestation, and even then their description of such a manifestation is absurd to say the least.


How does having a “compass kiblat reading and compartments for keeping the Quran and scarves” make the proposed so called “Islamic” car fundamentally distinct from all other cars?


German automotive designers now include a GPS system capable of pinpointing the kiblat in many of their higher-end vehicles; as far as compartment space is concerned most, if not all, car manufacturers boast numerous compartments for the storage of items, scarves included.


These car manufacturers do not specify what items may be or should be stored in these compartments; that decision is left to the consumer.


Do these automobile manufacturers advertise their vehicles as “Islamic” simply because they include these features? If the answer is “No”, then why do the Muslims feel the need to do so?


So, another important question arises: is the car a proper justifiable place for one to keep the Quran? Any good Muslim understands that there is a “right place” for everything.


Once again this right place is defined by the worldview of Islam and its related fundamental elements. As such, once a thing is afforded its rightful place in accordance with that worldview, what results is justice.


Since we affirm that there is such a thing as a “right place”, then logically there must be such a thing as a “wrong place”.


A “wrong place” will most certainly not be in accordance with the worldview of Islam and its related fundamental elements by virtue of the fact that what results is injustice, a condition which may also be equally demonstrated.


The Quran is unlike any book one may purchase from a bookstore. As the Word of God, it is supposed to be accorded the proper respect it deserves.


As such, a car is not the right place for the Quran, neither is a car’s rear windshield the right place to display verses from the Quran.
Hence, the very idea of constructing a car having “compartments for keeping the Quran, is in fact unjust and subsequently antithetical to the worldview of Islam and its related fundamental elements.


Therefore, far from being “Islamic”, the act of keeping the Quran in a car is, in fact, un-Islamic.


My concern here is that Islam and all its associated elements – namely, Islamic, Islamisation and so on – are being corrupted by those who know not, and know not they know not (la yadri wa la yadri annahu la yadri).


Islam is not a religion for the feeble-minded, nor is it the handmaiden of politics or a cliché (cogankata) for advertising, business and economics.


The fact that the Muslim world today suffers politically, economically and intellectually is due in large part to the Muslims, and not Islam.
In my opinion, far from ennobling the Muslims and the Muslim world, such proposals like an “Islamic car” bring shame, and invite unnecessary ridicule.
 

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