There will be more women in Hell than man?

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Jon Paul said:
Hello, everyone!

We cannot say if there will be more women in hel than men. At the end of the day, I do not believe it will matter whether or not you are male or female. However, we cannot lay the possibility of such on a percieved handicap amongst the female populace.

God created us all equal. We equally sinned and disobeyed God. We equally assumed and equal fallen human nature. We equaly suffered the temporal punishments due our offending God. We were all equally redeemed through Jesus Christ.

We disagree on the fine points, but I believe both Islam and Catholicism maintain that God created man and women qith equal, rational and eternal souls. He did not handicap either.

Regards,
JP.
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There is nothing about being handicapped here. Do you think that the numbers will be exactly 50/50 in hell?
 
Silver said:
I don't believe that a man gets 72 virgins in heaven. The hadiths that suppport that are weak. And even if it was true, God who created everything can surely create extra women...
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Bring proof please. Allah has promised men women in the Quran. He has also promised never to waste the wages of either men or women, so you can rest assured that women will get a proper reward too
 
I read a book "Alchemy of Happiness" which is an abridged translation of Al-Ghazali's book Ihya' ulum al-din. I found the following Hadith in it in the chapter regarding Women:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." Sahih Bukhari

But I am sure there are other reasons too. In This chapter the great Scholar Al-Ghazali was discussing marriage and Women.
 
Although there are also men who behave this way...I've seen this type of behavior a lot amongst women...that bit in the hadith student posted...plus loads of other reasons..


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Ok, let's clear up a few things.
First, regarding the hadith in Bukhari which says majority of people in hell were women has been listed as sahih for many centuries. No known scholar has come up and pointed out why it would be weak.
Second, what we get from this hadith is that if you look at hell you will see that the number of women in there will be more than men. It could be twice the amount of men. The bottom line is prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was able to see that there were more women.
Third, there are many things that people go to hell for that we are not aware of because we are not careful. For example, there was a hadith in which it said a woman went to hell because of how she mistreated a cat!
Another thing about women that I personally don't like is the level of hate they have for kids that are not their own. :cry: I remember as a child, I was a quiet boy and had so much respect for older people, but for some odd reason my best-friend's mother didn't like me at all. I will not go into the details, but his father was fine. He didn't hate me at all.

In conclusion, there have been no known scholars that pointed out something weak in this hadith. Therefore, according to those who study the hadith this is sahih no doubt about it. There will be more women in hell than men.
 
Gossip is not why the theory of more woman being in hell than men. Think to yourself how some woman act in this world?, no hijab, dress innappropriatly, being salacious and getting into prostitution.

A man does not need to wear a hijab. So i believe that its because some woman in this world distance themselves from these rules, to have the same freedom men do, which will backfire on them in the after life.

Wasalam.
 
the main reason is women cursing too much and being ungrateful to husbands.

so if u dont fall into that category, the case is lighter for u inshallah
 
YES- MOST WOMAN R UNGRATFUL TO THEIR HUBBYS...DATS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS. sad but true. DATS WHY IM GONA BE DA BEST WIFE EVA IN 56 YEARS :)
 
AlexIslam said:
Gossip is not why the theory of more woman being in hell than men. Think to yourself how some woman act in this world?, no hijab, dress innappropriatly, being salacious and getting into prostitution.

A man does not need to wear a hijab. So i believe that its because some woman in this world distance themselves from these rules, to have the same freedom men do, which will backfire on them in the after life.

Wasalam.
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On the other hand, prisons are filled with men. Young men are statistically very dangerous :D.
 
KAding said:
On the other hand, prisons are filled with men. Young men are statistically very dangerous :D.
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Few crimes are recorded in statistics. Where is the statistic for lying? Backbiting? Gossiping? Ungratefulness? Manipulation? Envy? Greed? 1000 others cannot be measured statistically.
 
The women asked, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, what is deficient in our intelligence and religious commitment?’ He said, ‘Is not the testimony of two women equal to the testimony of one man?’ They said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Is it not true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her religious commitment.’”
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This doesn't make sense.
First of all men and women are equal in Allahs eyes.

The menstrual cycle is not something a women chooses.The instruction to not pray and fast during this time in instructed.It it not down to a lack of commitment.Allah would not hold this against women and I doubt the Prophet(PBUH) would make such a comment.
 
KAding said:
On the other hand, prisons are filled with men. Young men are statistically very dangerous :D.
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Yeah except that your logic lacks something. There are many sins that Allah will punish people for but in this world they are ok. For example, wearing a bikini in public. That sin itself can bring one to hell for many years, yet you will not go to prison for it.
 
From my article about the truth about women in islam:

People who want to prove that Islam has and always has been a misogynist religion frequently point out this hadith:

Ibn Abbas reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: I had a chance to look into the Paradise and I found that majority of the people was poor and I looked into the Fire and there I found the majority constituted by women. (Sahih Muslim, Book 36, Number 6597)

What these people want you to believe is that this is proof that the blessed Muhammad believed and taught that women are inherently more evil than men. But there are three gaping holes in this conclusion:

1. The hadith are fallible, unlike the Koran, and so they are judged by the Koran, and there is nothing in the entire Koran suggesting that women are more evil than men or that the majority of the people in hell will be women. Since this hadith has no Koranic parallel or justification, it should be regarded as highly suspect. Even if this were not the case it would not necessarily an accurate reporting of what the Prophet (peace be on him) said, since the hadith are the fallible memories of humans, transmitted through oral tradition, and the Koran is the only source of universal and undeniable Islamic doctrine.

2. The hadith does not tell us how much of a majority this majority is supposed to be, or even that there is a large majority at all. As such, the majority in question could be as low as 51%, in which case it would be just a matter of circumstance (what some would call luck) that most of the people in hell will turn out to be women, and not by any means an indication that women are inherently more evil than men. (In fact, even if everyone in hell is a woman, it could still be because of coincidence and nothing more, although it would be a very large coincidence.) Ergo, the hadith proves nothing even if it is authentic and totally accurate.

3. We Muslims are not taught that there is any sort of original sin. Instead, we believe that people are born sinless (born Muslims in the sense of “submitters to God”), and are corrupted later on because of a combination of negative influence from other people and temptation in the form of “whispers” from evil djinni. As such, it would make no sense for women to be inherently more evil than men, since men and women alike are born sinless and become corrupted the same way.
 
As-salaamu 'Alaykum brother Yahya,
Yahya Sulaiman said:
1. The hadith are fallible, unlike the Koran, and so they are judged by the Koran, and there is nothing in the entire Koran suggesting that women are more evil than men or that the majority of the people in hell will be women. Since this hadith has no Koranic parallel or justification, it should be regarded as highly suspect. Even if this were not the case it would not necessarily an accurate reporting of what the Prophet (peace be on him) said, since the hadith are the fallible memories of humans, transmitted through oral tradition, and the Koran is the only source of universal and undeniable Islamic doctrine.
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I'm afraid I have to take issue with some of what you have raised in this particular point, in particular regarding the reliability and status of the hadith in our religion. I hope a cursory look at this thread will change your mind:

http://www.islamicboard.com/hadeeth/37234-rules-governing-criticism-hadeeth.html
 
Uthman, you can actually ignore that part if you want because I think my other points speak for themselves without it.
 
Jon Paul said:
Hello, everyone!

We cannot say if there will be more women in hel than men. At the end of the day, I do not believe it will matter whether or not you are male or female. However, we cannot lay the possibility of such on a percieved handicap amongst the female populace.

God created us all equal. We equally sinned and disobeyed God. We equally assumed and equal fallen human nature. We equaly suffered the temporal punishments due our offending God. We were all equally redeemed through Jesus Christ.

We disagree on the fine points, but I believe both Islam and Catholicism maintain that God created man and women qith equal, rational and eternal souls. He did not handicap either.

Regards,
JP.
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Peace my brother in Humanity and Assalam aleykoum Sisters and brothers,


Sorry but I do not beleive in that Hadeeths, yes I forget men are protected about the devil, men are the best........


Allah SWT create us equal is it true otr not ?

If I follow your logic, if I am a Woman its very dangerous because statiscaly there are more women than men in hell.

Its easy to say that Hadeeths was said by the prophete Mohamed SWS, please use your brain.

Assalam aleykoum sisters and brothers, ask god to forgive us and to guide us, Ameen.
 
Assalam Aleykoum,

I am not rude, sorry if you feel it, I apologize to everybody and to you my sister.

What I want to say the religion its not a game, we have to control what we have been earing, reading, and growing with.

I know and I am sure the Quran is protected is it true or not ?

I know and I am sure the book of Hadeeths is not protected is it true ?? that are false, how we can be sure that all Hadiths are SAHIH.

I never said the prophete Mohamed SWS said any lie because he followed only the revelation of the Quran.

Its easy to say that that Hadeeths, was told by one man, heard by another one, heard by 3 or 10 before the last person ear it from the our prophete Mohamed SWS, What I want from you sisters and brothers , its to cheek if a hadeeth is true or not, logic or not and if it is not in contradiction with the protected book of Allah SWT the Quran.

As I said above, the religion its not like a game, we have to find out the truth together insha'Allah, Ameen.

I am very scared of thi world, I will post insh'Allah if Allah wants, hadeeths that are in contradiction with the quran. if you look at the truth you will find them by yourself.

About the Hadeeth there are more women than men in hell, what is the benefit to know it ?

It that help us for our faith if we know that what is the objectif, the aim of this hadeeths.

Sorry if you fell I am rude, I apologize, forgive me.


Assalam aleykoum sisters and brothers.

Maybe my post will be deleted again, who knows.
 
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