The IRA is not supported by the government of Northern Ireland. If they were supported, funded, protected, by the government of the Republic of Ireland, Britain would, I think, have reason to be upset. There is an Islamic precedent. The Treaty of al-Hudaybiyah was broken by fighting between the Banu Bakr and the Banu Khuza’ah. The Banu Bakr had a treaty with the Quraysh and the B. Khuza'ah with the Muslims. The B. Bakr attacked the B. Khuza'ah in retaliation for some earlier deaths. And so the Muslims went to war with the Quraysh. Was this wrong?.
Was it wrong? sorry i wasnt there to judge that nor am i here to judge that...
IRA were not supported by the goverment...
Why not? You seem to be doing a lot of judging. On what basis do you judge America's actions?
It is a simple question of Islamic law - if the Allies of the Quyrash attack the Allies of the Muslims, is that a valid casus belli? It is not as direct as in this case when the Allies of the Taleban actually attacked America, and not just once, and not just killing one man, not an Ally.
however your saying osama was supported by the taliban so for that they reason to attack afganistan...there was still no war my friend... the afganstani goverment never attacked the USA you can carry on with the osama was backed by the taliban so it makes sense... but it only makes sense to you... one man is no reason to attack a country!
And yet this is what happened with the Meccans. Osama was not only supported by the Taleban, who were not the official recognised government of Afghanistan, but protected by them as well. It made sense to Muhammed to attack Mecca and rip up the Treaty of al-Hudaybiyah when the Quraysh's allies attacked his allies. Do you know the phrase what is good for the goose is good for the gander? Why the double standard?
You call that a war? it was a massacre.. what resistence? on whos borders did the taliban attack?
Well what I call it is neither hee nor there but the US government does not call it a war or, as I said, they would be POWs and treated better.
A massacre? Well yes, I guess it was.
So easy is it to call it a war for terrorisem and kill thousands...i call it pathetic..
If someone attacks you, you sort of have to attack back. The US put up with a lot from Osama Bin Laden. He thought that meant the US was weak. Well there's a mistake he will not make twice. And assuming that Osama's messages mean what they seem to mean (please make peace with me, and, later when that failed, if you don't make peace with me I'll huff and I'll puff and blow your house down) presumably OBL is running scared.
the afganistani massacre was but a excuse to gain control of afgan land and oil...
What oil? Afghanistan is not worth it. No one thinks so. The US is paying half the government budget. It is a dump. A beautiful dump, but the entire economy is worth about nothing.
So what was the iraq war as you call it for? what war? when did iraq attack USA??
Well never as far as I can see. Always thought that was a bad idea. But at least the sanctions are gone.
U seem to explain what you want and ignore the rest? so afgan was a WAR based on one man and iraq was a WAR based on what??
Afghanistan was more than one man. Iraq seems to be a war based on a desire to finish the job and get on with it. But I don't know for sure.
The message it sends is let us do what we want or this is how your life will become...Nice message...
Well it ain't pretty but we are playing with the Big Boys now. The US did not start this. The US does not play as dirty as their enemies. But bad things need to happen to bad people.
Treated better...? very humane of you...Have you ever suffered pain? ever been humiliated?
It is unfortunate that they are being held as illegal combatants and it is a pity you do not see what I mean, but the fact remains if they were POWs they would be much better off.
Theres a diffrence here i would never want to see any american suffer that much as much as i dont want to see my brothers and sisters suffering...
Which is big of you. Not a feeling shared by many people in the Third World I have notice.
Even if the american was a prisoner of war it is within our religon to show mercy to show respect...
There are laws within the quran about war and to show mercy and honour on the battlefield is strongest...
Explain that one to me as it applies to women. It is within Western culture to show mercy and honor as well. Sometimes the West does. But then it is also within Muslim culture to kidnap peace workers and torture them and then execute them. Sometimes we do not live up to the best of our traditions. Neither your brothers, nor the Americans.
to keep someone in that state is sick and beyond understanding!?
how you can find anywhere in your heart to justfiy this is beyond me...
I am not justifying it. I just don't think it is the biggest injustice in the world at the moment.
