Things in common between Muslims and Christians

[Sunnih]

Greetings and peace be with you Sunnih;

Thank you for starting this thread and we do need to listen to each other more

We agree on good qualities like justice, peace, tolerance, understanding, love, mercy and forgiveness, now we just have to learn how to share these gifts with each other.

And to our agnostic and atheist friends on this forum, how can we find things in common with you also?

In the spirit of praying for peace on Earth

Eric

Same to you Eric.

Yes we should bring out the similarities of our religions and not let our differences hide what we have in common.

Take care.:thumbs_up

 

[Sunnih]

Eric H.



Very well said! But then, there’s no need to search to “find things in common”: as near as I can assure you of anything, I assure you that all humanists share those “good qualities” that you listed – I’d even call them quintessential “humanist attributes”!

But what moves some of us to object to “supernatural stuff” is when such (nonsense) is used as the basis for taking other people’s lands (e.g., in Palestine), inhibiting scientific understanding (e.g., in the U.S.), and killing innocent people (e.g., suicide bombers). That’s when we start hollering: “Hey, wait a minute; enough's enough. What evidence supports your 'beliefs'? And if none, then how about smartening up?!"

Yes we have seen your "evidence" as well and we too ask your likes to smarten up.

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you all;

Finding things we share in common is a kind of cosy arrangement, because it over looks our differences, and we seem to attract strange alliances. So how do we overcome these important issues we call truth that bring us into conflict with each other?

People seem to be dividing into camps on this thread and taking sides, why do beliefs have to lead us into conflict?

I believe that justice and peace are served in a greater way when we search for justice for someone different to us. I see no reason as to why agnostics, atheists, Christians and Muslims should not get on with each other.

In the spirit of hope.

Eric

 

[Balthasar21]

The Koran Says ---
( 1 ) . Issa's is actually higher than all the other prophets Koran 2 ; 253 .
( 2 ) . Issa's coming confirms the law that had come before him Koran 5 ; 46 , 61 ; 6 .
( 3 ) . Issa's conception is supernatural making him a unique individual Koran 3 ; 45 , 19 ; 16 -20
( 4 ) .Miracles accompany him Koran 19 ; 21 , 21 ; 91
( 5 ) . Issa conquered death and will come at The End of the world Koran 3 ; 55 .
( 6 ) . The Koran says Issa is a messenger , A Prophet , The Word of Allah , And the spirit of Allah , and the messiah , Koran 3 ; 49 , 19;30 ,
( 7 ) . Koran 3 ; 42 says Maryam , Mother of Issa , Was A Noble woman chosen above other women in the world .
( 8 ) . Koran 16 ; 51 , 3 ; 26 Says there is more than one Allah Meaning -- Allahumma <> 3 ; 26 , 5 ; 114 , 8 ; 32 , 10 ; 10 , 39 ; 46 . The word Allahumma mean '' O Allah . The Source - and Hum '' They - The Eloheem Anunnaqis , Allahumma is another word that was derived from The Hebrew word , Eloheem , Meaning '' These Beings Or A Group Of Elohs '' Allahumma or Eloheems are angels of El or messenger of El - Anu . Usually in The Koran when it says , '' That We Did This Or We Created This , Or Our Signs , Etc '' It is referring to these Allahumma or Eloheem , Anunnaqis . They are Physical Angelic Beings ; Not Spooks or Spirits or Ghost .
They are beings that do the work of El , or Allah . The word Allahumma or Eloheems is found throughout The Scroll of The Koran , And is Falsely Translated As A Single , With the word '' God ' , The name Allahumma or Eloheems is used for Benevolent , Agreeable and Malevolent , Disagreeable Beings , And Even In The Case For Human Beings , As Found In Exodus 7 ; 1 When Yahuwa Made Moses And Eloheem To Pharaoh Rameses ll
( 9 ) . Koran says the spirit of Allah camev into Jesus .
(10) . Issa is the saviour

The Bible says ---
( 1 ) . Agreed - Jesus is higher than all of the other prophets .
( 2 ) . Agree -- Prophecy is fulfilled .
( 3 ) . Issa's conception is supernatural making him a unique individual Matthew 1;20
( 4 ) . Miracles accompany him Matthew 6 ; 25 ; Luke 23 ; 8 ; John 4 ; 54 ,
(5 ) . Agreed -- Jesus conquered death and will come at the end of the world .
(6 ) . Agree -- Jesus is a messenger , and a prophet , and the word of Thehos , and the messiah .
(7 ) . Agree - Mary , mother of Jesus , Was A Noble Woman .
(8 ) . Agree - that scriptures use the names of Thehos / Eloheem in pural . The Word Eloheem < Aramic > Means '' These Beings '' Or '' A Group Of Elohs '' Eloheems Are Angels Of '' El '' Or Messengers Of '' El Eloh '' Who Anu . They Are Physical Angelic Beings , Not Spooks Or Spirit Or Ghost . They Are A Host Of Beings That Do The Words Of '' El '' . While On The Planet Earth Under An Appointed Being , Then They Are Called '' El '' Who Under Al Or El . The Word '' Eloheem '' Is Found Throughout The Scroll Of Genesis And Is Falsely Translated As '' God '' The Name Eloheem Is Used For Both '' Agreeable And Disagreeable Beings And Even Humans As In . Exodus 7;1 , When Yahuwa < Aramic > Told Moses That He Will Make Him An Eloheem For The Pharoh .
(9 ) . Agreed - The Spirit Of Thehos Came Into Jesus .
(10 ) . Agreed - Jesus Is The Saviour .

 

[جوري]

The Koran Says ---
( 1 ) . Issa's is actually higher than all the other prophets Koran 2 ; 253 .
.

let me stop you right there, since you don't bother read what you paste. I can nullify all your gibberish with one aya.. do you think none of us read the Quran?
What is wrong with you?

تِلْكَ الرُّسُلُ فَضَّلْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ مِّنْهُم مَّن كَلَّمَ اللّهُ وَرَفَعَ بَعْضَهُمْ دَرَجَاتٍ وَآتَيْنَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ الْبَيِّنَاتِ وَأَيَّدْنَاهُ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ وَلَوْ شَاء اللّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلَ الَّذِينَ مِن بَعْدِهِم مِّن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ وَلَـكِنِ اخْتَلَفُواْ فَمِنْهُم مَّنْ آمَنَ وَمِنْهُم مَّن كَفَرَ وَلَوْ شَاء اللّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلُواْ وَلَـكِنَّ اللّهَ يَفْعَلُ مَا يُرِيدُ {253}​

[Pickthal 2:253] Of those messengers, some of whom We have caused to excel others, and of whom there are some unto whom Allah spake, while some of them He exalted (above others) in degree; and We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty) and We supported him with the holy Spirit. And if Allah had so wiled it, those who followed after them would not have fought one with another after the clear proofs had come unto them. But they differed, some of them believing and some disbelieving. And if Allah had so willed it, they would not have fought one with another; but Allah doeth what He will.

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you all;

I am approaching 60, so I may be one of the younger oldies here; and I feel sadness.

I wonder at times is it really possible to forgive someone after they make hurtful comments about us? Do we have the time in our busy lives to walk away from the computer and search for a reply that is kind.

Do we ever stop to ask, how can I as an individual absorb some of the anger and bring a little peace to this world.

In the spirit of praying for peace in our heart.

Eric

 

[Woodrow]

This was a nice friendly thread trying to help spread Understanding between people of different faiths. Unfortunatly it got hijacked and side tracked.

All off topic and references to such has been deleted. The thread is being locked to keep it from going off topic again.
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