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what do you hate in islam that muslims are doing wrong, for example

i hate when girls at my school, they wear scarf when they coming in to school, when their fathers are watching and take it off when their fathe or mothers are gone. When its home time they put their scarfs back on.. i am thinking y r u a muslims if u feel ashamed wear their scarf in front of their mates...

that really annoys me.
 
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Greetings,
welcome_islam said:
i hate when girls at my school, they wear scarf when they coming in to school, when their fathers are watching and take it off when their fathe or mothers are gone. When its home time they put their scarfs back on.. i am thinking y r u a muslims if u feel ashamed wear their scarf in front of their mates...

that really annoys me.
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They are most likely Muslims because their parents are.

Peace
 
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When people call themselves 'liberal Muslims'. That really pisses me and makes no sense whatsoever to me. When the Ummah around me try and adapt to this silly Western culture and leave their religion behind is just so embarassing. :thumbs_do
 
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:sl: the so called "moderate muslims" , simply either youre muslim or not. alhamdulillah islam is simple, either get aboard or dont claim to be muslim. lol try and not smash your monitors inshaAllah lol :heated: :giggling: :sl:
 
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LOL, Brother don't tempt me (to smash my PC) -- I have serious anger issues. :p But on a serious note, I don't understand why people feel a need to fit into the Western culture. Islam is an easy religion, we are told what to do, everything is set there for us and our lives aren't filled with as much worry because we know Allah is always there for us. I honestly can't fathom why you'd want to be considered a 'moderate Muslim'. :? I don't understand these labels, somebody fill me in. There's the moderate Muslim, the fudmentalist (which doesn't sound all that bad to me actually, you're just following the fudmentals of your religion which you're only SUPPOSED to do:rollseyes), and the liberal Muslim. Ahhhh, just stop!!
 
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Greetings,

Sister-Ameena* said:
But on a serious note, I don't understand why people feel a need to fit into the Western culture. Islam is an easy religion, we are told what to do, everything is set there for us and our lives aren't filled with as much worry because we know Allah is always there for us.
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It seems obvious from what you say that people like Western culture precisely because there is less being 'told what to do'.

I would say there is far more opportunity for free thought outside of Islamic culture. What do you think?

Peace
 
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Hello to you too,

First, Islam is not a culture - it is a religion where cultures across the world come together. Saying things like 'Islamic culture' makes no sense. :) Anyway, there is more 'free-thought' outside of Islam, but that's the whole point of Islam. You were put on this Earth to do the things that Allah Al-mighty has ordained for us to do, and you abide by it. If you can't handle doing so, then you simply don't.
 
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ermm well ther was once this debate in school.. and a sister ended up stating that shes a 'modern muslim' i dont believe thers such a thing as a 'modern muslim'.. tht just really bugged me.
 
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sorry everyone but what is a 'modern muslim' and 'liberal Muslims', i am confused.
 
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welcome_islam said:
what do you hate in islam that muslims are doing wrong, for example

i hate when girls at my school, they wear scarf when they coming in to school, when their fathers are watching and take it off when their fathe or mothers are gone. When its home time they put their scarfs back on.. i am thinking y r u a muslims if u feel ashamed wear their scarf in front of their mates...

that really annoys me.
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I know loads of girls like that. SubhanAllah. Then they give me a hard time for keeping my Hijaab on :enough!:
 
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Greetings,
Sister-Ameena* said:
First, Islam is not a culture - it is a religion where cultures across the world come together. Saying things like 'Islamic culture' makes no sense. :)
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Please don't be silly.

Anyway, there is more 'free-thought' outside of Islam, but that's the whole point of Islam. You were put on this Earth to do the things that Allah Al-mighty has ordained for us to do, and you abide by it. If you can't handle doing so, then you simply don't.
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OK, perhaps I've not expressed it very clearly. I think one big reason why people of Muslim heritage are attracted to Western life is because of the freedom to think that is offered by the West. If a society is able to think freely, without having to submit to dogma, that society will make progress intellectually, scientifically, economically, technologically and in myriads of other ways too. This is so obvious it hardly needs stating.

Without freedom of thought, the progress of a society is severely retarded. Patriarchal and Scholastic Christianity were directly responsible for forcing Europe to endure the Dark Ages. Now that people in the West have largely learned to ignore the Church when it attempts to stop them from thinking, their societies have prospered in ways that the world has never seen before.

Peace
 
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welcome_islam said:
sorry everyone but what is a 'modern muslim' and 'liberal Muslims', i am confused.
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well the girl tht told me she was a 'modern muslim' basically was trying to provide an excuse for her going clubbin, meeting men etc.
 
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Sister-Ameena* said:
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LOL, Brother don't tempt me (to smash my PC) -- I have serious anger issues. :p But on a serious note, I don't understand why people feel a need to fit into the Western culture. Islam is an easy religion, we are told what to do, everything is set there for us and our lives aren't filled with as much worry because we know Allah is always there for us. I honestly can't fathom why you'd want to be considered a 'moderate Muslim'. :? I don't understand these labels, somebody fill me in. There's the moderate Muslim, the fudmentalist (which doesn't sound all that bad to me actually, you're just following the fudmentals of your religion which you're only SUPPOSED to do:rollseyes), and the liberal Muslim. Ahhhh, just stop!!
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That Islam is easy is only your opinion. For me, Islam is complicated and uncomprehendable.
Another difference is, that you are told what to do (your words) and I0m free to do what I want (of course according to the secular laws)
Now, who has now the better life is also everybodies opinion, isn't it ?
 

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