Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation
Meaning of Hands in the Quran
042.030
And whatever affliction befalls you, it is on account of what your hands have wrought, and (yet) He pardons most (of your faults).
Hands meaning: Own will and actions
022.010
This is due to what your two hands have sent before, and because Allah is not in the least unjust to the servants.
Hands meaning: Own will and actions
002.195
And spend in the way of Allah and cast not yourselves to perdition with your own hands, and do good (to others); surely Allah loves the doers of good.
Hands meaning: Own will and actions
008.070
O Prophet! say to those of the captives who are in your hands: If Allah knows anything good in your hearts, He will give to you better than that which has been taken away from you and will forgive you, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Hands meaning: Possession, Control
038.045
YUSUFALI: And commemorate Our Servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, possessors of Power and Vision.
PICKTHAL: And make mention of Our bondmen, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, men of parts and vision.
SHAKIR: And remember Our servants Ibrahim and Ishaq and Yaqoub, men of power and insight.
Hands was changed to power, it is quite obvious that saying possessors of hands holds no meaning
036.071
YUSUFALI: See they not that it is We Who have created for them - among the things which Our hands have fashioned - cattle, which are under their dominion?-
PICKTHAL: Have they not seen how We have created for them of Our handiwork the cattle, so that they are their owners,
SHAKIR: Do they not see that We have created cattle for them, out of what Our hands have wrought, so they are their masters?
So, why do we not take the above verse as in expression when the Quran uses such expression all over? Why would attribute Allah (SwT) hands instead of taking hands metaphorically as in the other verses?
Bro saying that Allah (swt) hands is incorrect, whether you add the phrase in way the befits his majest and there is no one like him, does not matter, there is no reason to assume this case is different and is not an expression
Eyes in the Quran also an expression
032.017
YUSUFALI: Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden (in reserve) for them - as a reward for their (good) deeds.
PICKTHAL: No soul knoweth what is kept hid for them of joy, as a reward for what they used to do.
SHAKIR: So no soul knows what is hidden for them of that which will refresh the eyes; a reward for what they did.
Clearly an expression
025.074
YUSUFALI: And those who pray, "Our Lord! Grant unto us wives and offspring who will be the comfort of our eyes, and give us (the grace) to lead the righteous."
PICKTHAL: And who say: Our Lord! Vouchsafe us comfort of our wives and of our offspring, and make us patterns for (all) those who ward off (evil).
SHAKIR: And they who say: O our Lord! grant us in our wives and our offspring the joy of our eyes, and make us guides to those who guard (against evil).
Clearly an expression
018.101
YUSUFALI: (Unbelievers) whose eyes had been under a veil from remembrance of Me, and who had been unable even to hear.
PICKTHAL: Those whose eyes were hoodwinked from My reminder, and who could not bear to hear.
SHAKIR: They whose eyes were under a cover from My reminder and they could not even hear.
Over it refers to the eyes of the heart, that is the vision of the heart
So when Allah (swt) says
020.039
YUSUFALI: "'Throw (the child) into the chest, and throw (the chest) into the river: the river will cast him up on the bank, and he will be taken up by one who is an enemy to Me and an enemy to him': But I cast (the garment of) love over thee from Me: and (this) in order that thou mayest be reared under Mine eye.
PICKTHAL: Saying: Throw him into the ark, and throw it into the river, then the river shall throw it on to the bank, and there an enemy to Me and an enemy to him shall take him. And I endued thee with love from Me that thou mightest be trained according to My will,
SHAKIR: Saying: Put him into a chest, then cast it down into the river, then the river shall throw him on the shore; there shall take him up one who is an enemy to Me and enemy to him, and I cast down upon you love from Me, and that you might be brought up before My eyes;
Why do we take it out of context and attribute Allah (swt) eyes? Why do we not take this as an expression just the other versions used the word as an expression?
Jenballah
039.056
YUSUFALI: "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked!'-
PICKTHAL: Lest any soul should say: Alas, my grief that I was unmindful of Allah, and I was indeed among the scoffers!
SHAKIR: Lest a soul should say: O woe to me! for what I fell short of my duty to Allah, and most surely I was of those who laughed to scorn;
It is clear that here jenballah cannot even be possibly taken as literal, the word 'janballah' was not even translated in the above transaltions literally
A hadith that cannot be interpreted literally:
Sahih Bukhari, Book of Ar-Riqaq (To make the Heart Tender)
My slave keeps on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil (praying or doing extra deeds besides what is obligatory) till I love him, so I become his hearing with which he hears, and his sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his leg with which he walks
It is important in gaining knowledge, then one does not interpret things so literally, by doing so, for example, the above hadith would not make sense at all
it is very illogical and silly to take the verses that use metaphors out of context to stating that Allah (SwT) has body parts be it with the phrase 'in a matter the befits him' or beyond our understanding and non-simalar to us, does not change the fact is irrational to say such statements
in a thread that was closed, it was said that someone who rejects such attributes (eyes, hands, etc) is commiting kufr, but there is no logical or rational proof behind this
before going on to the arsh and hadiths about Adam (as), I will wait to see what are the responses to what i just posted