Time 'running out' on Iran talks

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091116/ts_nm/us_nuclear_iran_iaea_4

Iran continues to lie about its nuclear program to the UN. I fail to see how it should be trusted.
All muslim countries should support IRAN in this issue
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Sorry, but I don't feel safe at all with Iran having nukes. The main reason is the pattern of blame that Iran has shown.

If you watch Iranian politics you will see that nothing is ever their fault. It is always the fault of another nation. That is how their politics work. Even when they cannot hold a proper election it is the fault of other nations, and when the people protest the elections it is the fault of other nations. The politicians there know that all they have to do is blame any issue on another nation and enough of the people will listen like sheep and believe them. I don't see how any good can come from a nation that is constantly pointing as other nations as the causes of their problems having nukes.

I fail to see how allowing more countries to get nuclear weapons will make this world any safer also. In fact logic tells me that the fewer countries that have such weapons the safer the world is.
 
The_Prince said:
the part you said your Muslim made me burst out laughing. your probaly one of those agents israel has been paying to go on to internet forums to spread propaganda etc.

if your not that, then your probaly the liberal sell out Muslim, or your the Muslim talking like a fox news pundit to simply be accepted.
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I feel the same way too. I don't like to pass takfir on any 'Muslim', but his views on every topic are very skewed.. satan's army comes in many form, some staunch anti-Muslims and some who will pretend to just to be Muslims.. all is fair in love and war as they say...

easier to spot on forums, much more frightening when done at a level that folks can't recognize.. you should read robert fisk's the world through syrian lens.. discusses this very topic..

:w:
 
titus said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091116/ts_nm/us_nuclear_iran_iaea_4

Iran continues to lie about its nuclear program to the UN. I fail to see how it should be trusted.


Sorry, but I don't feel safe at all with Iran having nukes. The main reason is the pattern of blame that Iran has shown.
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:sl: Brother,

Yahoo News is connected to the AP.org(Associated Press) where propagandas spread around. You must learn how the media works.

DO you feel SAFE when US reported recently placed nuclear weapons accidentially was open in public when soldiers fell sleep (US pointing finger at Pakistan's falling into wrong hand of terrorists)? DO you feel SAFE Russia who routinely carried Nuclear bombs in their submarines and Stealth Bombers near the coast of US and other parts?

DO you feel SAFE UN never reported in Israel's nuclear plants plus US, Russia, Pakistan, China, India, North Korea, France? Do you ever FEEL SAFE US never denote its bombs despite Iraq, Palestine and Afghanistan?

Grow up, please learn this new-different world. I believe, you are clapping US's efforts in attacking innocent Iraqis died everyday for Israel, you are even clapping Israel's cleaning the places in Gaza. You remain silent by ignoring the very solid FACTS....

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Between, learn example of Nuclear-armed Pakistan, no-one dared to show evil eyes.
 
Even though Iran is run by a complete nutter, I can understand why they would want nuclear weapons. Let me get one thing straight. Nuclear weapons are the worst invention in history, and I'd like to see every country relinquish its stock, but then seeing as we know about them now, even if we did destroy them all, some country would just start creating them again. That is the only reason why nuclear weapons are a relatively good thing.

I'm surprised Russia is supporting America on this. But I do sympathise with the Iranians. I mean, consider:

-the world's most powerful country with nuclear arms was destroying your culture and embarrasing you on the world stage.
-a tiny nation state who you've opposed from the start was wealthier and stonger than you were.
-you were surronded by rival Arab, Sunni and northern, oil hungry states to the north.

Surely the most logical thing to do would be to develop nuclear weapons in that situation.

Iran is the third stongest country in the Middle East after Israel and Egypt, so military action is out of the cards I would've thought. It'd not going to be like Afghanistan, where the Taliban had no infrastructure or modern weapons or money. God forbid a war with Iran.
 
Gossamer skye said:
I feel the same way too. I don't like to pass takfir on any 'Muslim', but his views on every topic are very skewed.. satan's army comes in many form, some staunch anti-Muslims and some who will pretend to just to be Muslims.. all is fair in love and war as they say...

easier to spot on forums, much more frightening when done at a level that folks can't recognize.. you should read robert fisk's the world through syrian lens.. discusses this very topic..

:w:
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Isn't delclaring one of your own brethren a non Muslim considered a sin in Islam?

I think it is Christianity.
 
Supreme said:
Isn't delclaring one of your own brethren a non Muslim considered a sin in Islam?

I think it is Christianity.
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few questions remain:

1-firstly who have I declared war on?
2-secondly can we prove that s/he is actually of my brethren?
3- (more a comment than a Q) It is perfectly appropriate to turn on treasonists and expose them!

all the best
 
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Gossamer skye said:
few questions remain:

1-firstly who have I declared war on?
2-secondly can we prove that s/he is actually of my brethren?
3- (more a comment than a Q) It is perfectly appropriate to turn on treasonists and expose them!

all the best
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No post thoroughly rebuking mine on the previous page? No conspiracy theories or claims I'm actually an atheist pretending to be a Christian. I have to say Gosamer, I'm disappointed!
 
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Supreme said:
No post thoroughly rebuking mine on the previous page? No conspiracy theories or claims I'm actually an atheist pretending to be a Christian. I have to say Gosamer, I'm disappointed!
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Ironically you haven't even crossed my mind on this thread or any thread for that matter, I find it odd that you'd insinuate yourself in a reply clearly not aimed at you.. I am not sure what to make of it, extreme paranoia or a false sense of grandiosity with hopes of baiting me into yet another worthless tirade that has nothing to do with the thread?

copernicus just phoned in and no the world doesn't revolve around you, so find another topic to be heated about..

all the best
 
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Gossamer skye said:
Ironically you haven't even crossed my mind on this thread or any thread for that matter, I find it odd that you'd insinuate yourself in a reply clearly not aimed at you.. I am not sure what to make of it, extreme paranoia or a false sense of grandiosity with hopes of baiting me into yet another worthless tirade that has nothing to do with the thread?

copernicus just phoned in and no the world doesn't revolve around you, so find another topic to be heated about..

all the best
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I jest, I jest! That was what we call 'a joke'.
 
Justufy said:
US, CHINA don’t ''use'' any nukes over anyone. I’m sorry . QUOTE]

what would you call hiroshima and nagasaki? usa never use nukes on anyones? now who is the liar you lying fraud, how much are you paid to come on forums to spread your propaganda?
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DO you feel SAFE Russia who routinely carried Nuclear bombs in their submarines and Stealth Bombers near the coast of US and other parts?
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No, incidents like that don't make me feel safe. Do you think that adding another country to the list of those with nuclear weapons would make the world safer? Would adding another country to the list of those able to do such things make you feel safer? Especially one that has leaders as paranoid as the ones in Iran?

Grow up, please learn this new-different world. I believe, you are clapping US's efforts in attacking innocent Iraqis died everyday for Israel, you are even clapping Israel's cleaning the places in Gaza. You remain silent by ignoring the very solid FACTS....
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So you think that since I do not want nuclear weapon proliferation that I must support, in fact applaud, Israel in Gaza and the US killing innocent Iraqis? Is that a joke or are you serious?

Let me make this clear. I believe that every nation that gains nuclear weapons makes the world that much more unsafe. I don't care if that country is Iran, Zimbabwe, Switzerland, Brazil or Luxembourg. Adding more countries to the list of those that already can wipe out entire cities in the blink of an eye will not make the world safer, it will make it more dangerous.
 
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The_Prince said:
Justufy said:
US, CHINA don’t ''use'' any nukes over anyone. I’m sorry . QUOTE]

what would you call hiroshima and nagasaki? usa never use nukes on anyones? now who is the liar you lying fraud, how much are you paid to come on forums to spread your propaganda?
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US, RUSSIA, CHINA, can have nuclear weapons, can use them over small countries like IRAQ, CHECHENYA, TIBET

When did they use nukes on the folowing countrys?? stop taking my words out of context.

they don't pay me enough for this job...




Just kidding!:p
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figured I'd add this to spice things up:

Iran Air Flight 655 was a civilian airliner shot down by US missiles on Sunday 3 July 1988, over the Strait of Hormuz killing all 290 passengers and crew aboard, including 66 children, ranking it seventh among the deadliest airline disasters.

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The U.S seems really paranoid to me, in order to feel safe, it must annihilate all in its path and tell sovereign nations how to govern their affairs, whilst labeling them terrorists!

catchy!
 
Gossamer skye said:
figured I'd add this to spice things up:

Iran Air Flight 655 was a civilian airliner shot down by US missiles on Sunday 3 July 1988, over the Strait of Hormuz killing all 290 passengers and crew aboard, including 66 children, ranking it seventh among the deadliest airline disasters.

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The U.S seems really paranoid to me, in order to feel safe, it must annihilate all in its path and tell sovereign nations how to govern their affairs, whilst labeling them terrorists!

catchy!
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I'm with u on this..also, i feel the jews are controlling the US...
 
Supreme said:
Actually, I think if you want to sound like Hitler a bit more, you should've said 'Bolsheviks and their Jewish masters'. But good try.
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What has Hitler got to do with this? The Zionist Jew do have a major influence over the congress. When someone states something about the Jew it does not mean they're anti semitic or have anything to do with Hitler. America is in love with Israel = fact. They both deserve each other. XD
 
Guestfellow said:
What has Hitler got to do with this? The Zionist Jew do have a major influence over the congress. When someone states something about the Jew it does not mean they're anti semitic or have anything to do with Hitler. America is in love with Israel = fact. They both deserve each other. XD
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No, the post ignorantly stated that Jews were in control of America, a statement that is blatantly incorrect, evidenced because of the fact there is only on Jew in the US Cabinet, and not very many Jews in Congress at all. Now, you've added the word Zionist. To say 'America is controlled by Zionists' would probably have been more accurate, as most zionists are Christians, not Jews. Also, don't say 'the' Jew, say 'Jews', as you wouldn't say 'the Muslim', but Muslims. The post reminded me of Hitler because he used to state Jews were in control of the world, which wasn't correct either.
 

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