To all the memebers/admin on this Forum inshallah

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I was asking you personally. Scroll up and read your own entry. I know that br is the head of it and inshallah ill have my own discussion with him but right now im discussing this with you. Its interesting how you quoted his whole response to speak for yourself...indeed the first commandment is Iqra, READ LEARN EDUCATE YOURSELF!

Firstly, these sorts of discussion have been discussed a number of times. There is no need for me repeat myself again and again.
Secondly, I quoted brother Kadafis respond merely showing you the answer to your concerns.


Differentiating yourself isnt enough. Discussion should be allowed on this matter if you really claim to be otherwise. This is the beleif of Ahla Sunnah Wal Jamah.

This is the layout for you to backup your statments...

Quote the ayah, and then quote a Sahabi or Ijmaa’ or Shaykh that explains the ayah, if you are so intelligent and confident that you have the correct understanding and exegesis of Qur’an whereas all the other learned and qualified Scholars of Islam are not as correct as you; please do the following:
a. Quote the ayah or hadith
b. Quote the Prophet (sallallahu ‘alayhe wassallam) that explained the ayah or hadith explicitly or
c. Quote the consensus (Ijmaa‘) of the Muslim Scholars on this ayah or hadith or
d. Quote a Classical Islamic Scholar on this ayah or hadith.

If you cannot do at least TWO of these, then you need to take a hike because you are wasting all of our time.


You are looking for an argument and there is nothing for us to argue about understand? There is nothing to back up?
 
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None of the LI staff, nor our members to the best of my knowledge, are scholars, nor do we make it seem as such.

As a team we share the same views regarding our policies. Therefore, when we quote brother kadafi, it is because we agree and do not have any reason to add anything. He summed it up perfectly alhamdulillah.

I do not even know what you want us to be quoting from the Quran and Sunnah. We have already clarified we don't support sects and divisions. Are we supposed to bring you daleel on that?!
 
Re: To all the members/admin on this Forum inshallah

Why not discuss them again if you r so confident? hm?

no need to quote, ill discuss the matter with him personally, we were discussing the issue at hand with you. I can read his response on my own since u provided the links earlier but why cut and paste him/quote him when i was asking you to provide evidence for urself? hm..

indeed there is a argument about kufr and haqq. if you cant prove it then say so but dont discard the argument like that.
 
Re: To all the members/admin on this Forum inshallah

Why not discuss them again if you r so confident? hm?

no need to quote, ill discuss the matter with him personally, we were discussing the issue at hand with you. I can read his response on my own since u provided the links earlier but why cut and paste him/quote him when i was asking you to provide evidence for urself? hm..

indeed there is a argument about kufr and haqq. if you cant prove it then say so but dont discard the argument like that.



I do not even know what you want us to be quoting from the Quran and Sunnah. We have already clarified we don't support sects and divisions. Are we supposed to bring you daleel on that?!

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I couldn't put it better myself. What is it that you need dalil for?
 
assalamu alikum

Yes we were discussing Shia Beliefs and by deleting them you infact covering up the truth and not practing Al wala Wal barah when indeed these people are Kafir. By not allowing discussion on this matter, you are siding with these people and doing exactly what that ayah TELLS YOU NOT TO DO!! take the enemies of islam as ur friends and etc! this is indeed kufr al akbar and ihave proved it. if you can prove otherwise, i am waiting, inshallah

speak with evidence if you are going to talk

ma'salama

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Oh Masha'Allah. Jazakallah Khair for declaring all of us kafirs, surely you are an Alimah. I dont think you even know the conditions for declaring Takfir, and since you know nothing of us, you have no right to declare such a statement. Declaring Takfir is a heavy matter indeed, and even the Ulema have second thoughts on declaring someone a Kafir unless there is absulte proof, yet today we see youth going around judging, and declaring Takfeer, and that too, on the Internet after they have read only a book or two and are ignorant of the things that invalidate Wudu, for instance! Masha'Allah.

Secondly, the purpose of this forum is Daw'ah. If you are going to use this forum, you will abide by the forum rules, you can ask for clarification of them nicely, and we are more than willing to answer. But to come online, and start labelling and using the Quran and the Sunnah as an excuse, a strawman, that is pathetic and unjust.

Thirdly, you are repeating "This is the beleif of Ahla Sunnah Wal Jamah." and you have yet to show any proof, that steering clear of sectarianism takes us out of the fold of Ahlus Sunnah, much less Islam as you have accused us to be Kafirs. I warn you against going around declaring anyone who does not agree with you on a point as a Kafir. It is NOT your place to do so.

Fourth, these matters should be handled with the staff via PMs. I suggest you take time to read the forum rules before you violate another one of them.


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About the sister using someone else's statement and not her own, does the quran not instruct us to ask those with knowledge if we do not know ourselves?

It is also in the manners of a Muslim to give advice in private and not attempt to publically humiliate anyone, so please, in future if anyone has a complaint/suggestion PM an admin or supermod. Jazaakallahu khayran.
 
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