Tory peer Sayeeda Warsi confirmed for Question Time with BNP leader

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^ these questions are spot on! I would love to see how Griffin answers them! I'm looking forward to Thursdays show and insha'Allah he'll make himself look like a complete doughnut!
 
I hope Jeremy Paxman is in the audience and nobody but he is allowed to ask questions. This would be what is known as 'cracking telly'.
 
I'm not as optimistic as the rest of you. Like it or not, the British public have widespread concerns about immigration which the economic crisis has only seved to amplify. The BNP can be good at 'talking the talk'. They can tap into these concerns and make themselves sound reasonable, even if it involves outright lying about their policies.

I'm also concerned that, if and when it comes to a discussion about Islam, Nick Griffin might raise some issues about Islam's teachings which Baroness Warsi is unable to answer directly. He's raised that old Taqiyya myth on a radio show before. You know, that teaching which Islam-hater's love to misrepresent.
 
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I'm not as optimistic as the rest of you. Like it or not, the British public have widespread concerns about immigration which the economic crisis has only seved to amplify. The BNP can be good at 'talking the talk'. They can tap into these concerns and make themselves sound reasonable, even if it involves outright lying about their policies.

I'm also concerned that, if and when it comes to a discussion about Islam, Nick Griffin might raise some issues about Islam's teachings which Baroness Warsi is unable to answer directly. He's raised that old Taqiyya myth on a radio show before. You know, that teaching which Islam-hater's love to misrepresent.
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I see your point, but even though there is widespread dissatisfaction with the current economic crisis and the manner in which it is being handled by the government, i don't think most people with even an elementary grasp of history will vote in a cluster of fascist thugs to govern this country. Granted, they did receive 900,000 votes that propelled them to the European Parliament, and that startled me too, but i still don't see the BNP given its bigoted agenda, having the kind of agenda that it does, resonating with the vast majority of the public.

The time for acrimony over whether it was right or wrong to haul him on to the Question Time rostrum is over, it's now up to Jack Straw, Bonnie Greer and the rest to deliver a firm rebuttal to Griffin's abhorrent views.
 
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The time for acrimony over whether it was right or wrong to haul him on to the Question Time rostrum is over, it's now up to Jack Straw, Bonnie Greer and the rest to deliver a firm rebuttal to Griffin's abhorrent views.
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Agreed. They should expect to hear his infamous argument that Black people are allowed to have a Black Police Officer's Association and that isn't seen as racist. Clearly the BNP are not racist then(!)
 
This whole event sure has had a lot of media coverage. I'll have to record it on Sky+ and watch it tomorrow. I've got lots of uni work to do tonight.
 
this lady is a JOKE, nick griff just said Islam says raped women should be stoned to death! and she didnt even bother saying no, rather she goes into a tirade against him, what a stupid stupid lady.

she could have said WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT, AND THATS FALSE, NO SUCH LAW EXISTS. but once again we have dumb asses representing us, its either an anjem choudry, or a stupid moderate like her who doesnt seem to know anything about the religion.
 
^ Ah..I guess it didn't go too well? =/

I do wish we had better people to represent us but we should not care what others think of us since it is based on lies and utter crap.
 
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He got owned.

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this lady is a JOKE, nick griff just said Islam says raped women should be stoned to death! and she didnt even bother saying no, rather she goes into a tirade against him, what a stupid stupid lady.

she could have said WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT, AND THATS FALSE, NO SUCH LAW EXISTS. but once again we have dumb asses representing us, its either an anjem choudry, or a stupid moderate like her who doesnt seem to know anything about the religion.
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Nah she was playing her cards right; keep the focus on BNP and expose his ass, religion can be dealt with later. Though, someone should have said: ''pardon me nick griffin, but you are aware that a female muslim is sitting on the panel amongst you and has obtained a much higher and respected position than you!''

p.s; everything he said about Islam was a lie too; he couldn't even get the bank thing right (which btw, was less to do about usury and more to do with risk) - and THAT was supposed to be a compliment.
 
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Im sure the BNP are not thinking of accepting any inivitation for Question Time for a while.
Two new things i learn about Mr Griffin in this debate is 1) he is an awful liar! I mean how can you be misquoted in a video?^o) 2) he cant stop giggling! why does that silly man keep laughing and smilling when the things they were talking about was hardly amusing!
 
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He got owned.


Nah she was playing her cards right; keep the focus on BNP and expose his ass, religion can be dealt with later. Though, someone should have said: ''pardon me nick griffin, but you are aware that a female muslim is sitting on the panel amongst you and has obtained a much higher and respected position than you!''

p.s; everything he said about Islam was a lie too; he couldn't even get the bank thing right (which btw, was less to do about usury and more to do with risk) - and THAT was supposed to be a compliment.
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she did bring ONE good point up when she said she doesnt know if hes a friend or foe of Islam, right after he bashed Islam he goes on talking about some of its good qualities, and how he supports Muslim countries to remain strong in Islam and how he didnt support the wars against them!
 
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she did bring ONE good point up when she said she doesnt know if hes a friend or foe of Islam, right after he bashed Islam he goes on talking about some of its good qualities, and how he supports Muslim countries to remain strong in Islam and how he didnt support the wars against them!
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He's trying to get the Muslim vote. I'm dead serious.
 
Tha man is a jowke. His life is a jowke. As is his disgusting party. He did not know what he was talking about, and when he got done over, he'd just sit laughing like a muppet. He really is a confused man with really bent values. Buh I'm so happy he got exposed and in tha correct manner. I really think tha BNP party is doneshow. So I guess Griffin can go hibernate in a cave or something, away from eryone... InshAllah..

Warsi deserves browny points thas fo' sure. Although agreed abouh her displaying a lack of Islamic knowledge. If she's representing tha Muslims, she should be able to put forward tha correct Islamic view rather than just keep quiet. Nevertheless, I really admire her manner and speech.

A job well done... Agreed much?
 
Greetings,

I watched this for the first time last night on iPlayer as I was busy when it went out on Thursday night.

We all got to see Griffin being the deceptive miscreant he is very clearly. His vague politician's answers were often quite cunning, but I can't see too many people falling for his way of thinking as a result of the programme. So his KKK friend was non-violent? OK then! His dad fought in the RAF against the Nazis? He must be appalled at the way his son has turned out. On the whole, though, the panel didn't really let him talk for long enough to completely d.amn himself out of his own mouth.

I thought Bonnie Greer's humorous and patronising tone worked well, offering him history books to read and so on. I've also never seen Dimbleby making himself the centre of attention so often - he gave Griffin more of a grilling than the rest of the panel put together. I'd also give three cheers to the audience member who suggested a whip-round to buy Griffin a ticket out of the country. Jack Straw did badly most of the time - lots of uninvited attacks that made him seem more like a bully than someone willing to answer the questions put to him. One point where he did score was when he brought up his position as Justice Minister, giving Griffin permission to address the topic of Holocaust denial without fear of punishment.

There were a few uncomfortable moments, though, when the heat came off Griffin and he was asked for his opinion just as if he was a regular panellist. We don't want his appearance on programmes like this to begin to seem normal.

On another point, I was very surprised to hear Sayeeda Warsi standing up for gay rights - I thought she was a Muslim?

Peace
 
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Greetings,

On another point, I was very surprised to hear Sayeeda Warsi standing up for gay rights - I thought she was a Muslim?

Peace
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Greetings,

Some Muslims that I've met do stand up for gay rights and say whatever they do in their private life is non of our business. Not all Muslims share same values. However they do still regard homosexuality as a sin.
 
Good point goodfellow, but also, Warsi is a front-bench member of a party that is now poised to form the next government. At a time when all of them are being watched carefully, their policies scrutinised, their indiscretions in the past dredged up in the media and especially after 12 years out of government, they'd have rebuked her if she did anything that would even marginally affect their claim to form the next government.

Later on after that show, she appeared on BBC News along side Chris Hughne, the Lib Dem panellist who appeared on the show along side her. What was a simple question about how to neutralise the BNP's purported electoral gains, rapidly degenerated into an rancorous segment of political mud-slinging.
 
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Greetings,

Some Muslims that I've met do stand up for gay rights and say whatever they do in their private life is non of our business. Not all Muslims share same values. However they do still regard homosexuality as a sin.
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How can you stand up for something you believe is a sin?

Peace
 
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Greetings,


How can you stand up for something you believe is a sin?

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Well maybe that is not the correct term to use. They don't support it or go against it. They ignore it.

I didn't worded well in my previous post.
 

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