True or Not...Benefits of Reading

[yasirslm]

Dear Brothers/Sisters



I have seen people(including my Mother) reading different Surat/Ayat/Word and clamming that reading it will benefit in shape of 100000 Hajj,200000 Prayers etc,How much reality is in this and it's allowed or not(If yes please share reference)

I have also seen people getting printout of it and sharing them with other persons with condition that if you will not read them you will get punishment etc


Please reply back to clear my confusion

Thanks and Regards.

 

[Muslim Woman]

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I have also seen people getting printout of it and sharing them with other persons with condition that if you will not read them you will get punishment etc

I m getting this kind of paper since childhood. Now a days , people send mail with a threat that if we dont forward to 2o / 30 people , bad things happen such as a man did not do it and he died .

Prophet pbuh did not teach us to do dawah like this. I don't know why people like to threat others in the name of Islam.

 

[~ Sabr ~]

There are some hadiths I think that are saheeh like this. InshaAllaah I will post them up tomorrow.

 

[yasirslm]

Thanks

 

[~ Sabr ~]

Here is 1 example:

 

[yasirslm]

So If I will read it my eighty years of sins will be forgiven though I might not have eighty years of age...or my eighty years of sins have been forgiven and I can commit sins ,please clarify

Thanks and regards

Peace!!!

 

[~ Sabr ~]

So If I will read it my eighty years of sins will be forgiven though I might not have eighty years of age...or my eighty years of sins have been forgiven and I can commit sins ,please clarify

I am not a scholar, so I cannot interpret the hadith....

However, once you have made the intention to ask for forgiveness, you should not go back to the sin so easily. For example, you make tawba from Allaah for drinking alcohol, and then the next day you go out, buy it again (intentionally) and drink it and make tawba again - that is not true repentance.

Also, regarding the hadith, I think (I am not a scholar so forgive me if this is wrong) that 80 years of worship will be added to your records, but the past however many years you have lived (if this is below 80) then all of those years sins will be forgiven.

And Allaah Knows Best

 

[tango92]

Here is 1 example:

have a look at the reference for the hadith - reliable?

 

[~ Sabr ~]

Yeah I got that from another thread brother Hamza Asadullah posted, so best to ask him.

http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134295681-get-80-years-nafil-worship-reward-just-10-minutes.html

 

[Abz2000]

I have seen people(including my Mother) reading different Surat/Ayat/Word and clamming that reading it will benefit in shape of 100000 Hajj,200000 Prayers etc,How much reality is in this and it's allowed or not(If yes please share reference)

salamz brother, regarding those numbers, it is untrue, there is no guaranteed fixed value on it, one person could pay no attention and not benefit, and another can have full khushu' and really humbly recite it seeking Allah's pleasure, while contemplating on it's meanings,
and another person's hajj can be useless, while yet another can come back a changed person.

we enter Jannah by Allah's mercy, not by just counting our deeds and expecting to hold Him to ransom for them.
one real "ALHAMDULILLAH" with real gratitude can be worth more that 80,000 years of insincere alhamdulillahs on the rosary beads.

 

[~ Sabr ~]

^ Sorry, can you provide proof inshaAllaah? A hadith? Qur'aan quote? Etc? No?

 

[Abz2000]

Narrated Abu Huraira:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The good deeds of any person will not make him enter Paradise." (i.e., None can enter Paradise through his good deeds.)
They (the Prophet's companions) said, "Not even you, O Allah's Apostle?"
He said, "Not even myself, unless Allah bestows His favor and mercy on me." So be moderate in your religious deeds and do the deeds that are within your ability: and none of you should wish for death, for if he is a good doer, he may increase his good deeds, and if he is an evil doer, he may repent to Allah."
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 70, Number 577)

brothers and sisters, Our sincere Good deeds are means of receiving His mercy. God Almighty is the Judge.
although by reading the Quran i would have thought it becomes obvious.

O ye who believe! cancel not your charity by reminders of your generosity or by injury,- like those who spend their substance to be seen of men, but believe neither in Allah nor in the Last Day.They are in parable like a hard, barren rock, on which is a little soil: on it falls heavy rain, which leaves it (Just) a bare stone.They will be able to do nothing with aught they have earned.And Allah guideth not those who reject faith.265 . And the likeness of those who spend their substance, seeking to please Allah and to strengthen their souls, is as a garden, high and fertile: heavy rain falls on it but makes it yield a double increase of harvest, and if it receives not Heavy rain, light moisture sufficeth it.Allah seeth well whatever ye do.
Quran Al Baqarah - 2:264-265

 

[~ Sabr ~]

salamz brother, regarding those numbers, it is untrue, there is no guaranteed fixed value on it, one person could pay no attention and not benefit, and another can have full khushu' and really humbly recite it seeking Allah's pleasure, while contemplating on it's meanings,
and another person's hajj can be useless, while yet another can come back a changed person.

Please could you provide DIRECT proof about this which you have mentioned by your own opinion.

 

[~ Sabr ~]

Narrated Abu Huraira:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The good deeds of any person will not make him enter Paradise." (i.e., None can enter Paradise through his good deeds.)
They (the Prophet's companions) said, "Not even you, O Allah's Apostle?"
He said, "Not even myself, unless Allah bestows His favor and mercy on me." So be moderate in your religious deeds and do the deeds that are within your ability: and none of you should wish for death, for if he is a good doer, he may increase his good deeds, and if he is an evil doer, he may repent to Allah."
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 70, Number 577)

This isn't an answer to my question. Provide DIRECT proof that if we read that Durood Sharif mentioned above, we will not get 80 years sins pardoned and 80 years worship added/minused from our account.

 

[~ Sabr ~]

O ye who believe! cancel not your charity by reminders of your generosity or by injury,- like those who spend their substance to be seen of men, but believe neither in Allah nor in the Last Day.They are in parable like a hard, barren rock, on which is a little soil: on it falls heavy rain, which leaves it (Just) a bare stone.They will be able to do nothing with aught they have earned.And Allah guideth not those who reject faith.265 . And the likeness of those who spend their substance, seeking to please Allah and to strengthen their souls, is as a garden, high and fertile: heavy rain falls on it but makes it yield a double increase of harvest, and if it receives not Heavy rain, light moisture sufficeth it.Allah seeth well whatever ye do.
Quran Al Baqarah - 2:264-265

And what does this prove?!

 

[Abz2000]

Provide DIRECT proof that if we read that Durood Sharif mentioned above, we will not get 80 years sins pardoned and 80 years worship added/minused from our account.

sister i think you may have misread my post, please go back and confirm that i quoted the brothers original post.

 

[yasirslm]

What if by reading it my 80 years of sins are forgiven although I might not get 80 years of life or I can commit sins since by reading the same I came to know that my 80 years of sins are forgiven.


Thanks and Regards

Peace!!!

 

[~ Sabr ~]

What if by reading it my 80 years of sins are forgiven although I might not get 80 years of life or I can commit sins since by reading the same I came to know that my 80 years of sins are forgiven.

Do you not believe the word of Allaah?

When Allaah and His Messenger have said something, that's it! It WILL happen!

How will you be raised up on the Day of Judgment? Will you question that as well now?!

 

[~ Sabr ~]

sister i think you may have misread my post, please go back and confirm that i quoted the brothers original post.

I have seen people(including my Mother) reading different Surat/Ayat/Word and clamming that reading it will benefit in shape of 100000 Hajj,200000 Prayers etc,How much reality is in this and it's allowed or not(If yes please share reference)

And the brother is not wrong - these hadiths ARE real. You are saying that a person cannot get into Jannah by their own deeds - I agree. But this does not mean that these sorts of hadiths are NOT real.

 

[Abz2000]

Quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
O ye who believe! cancel not your charity by reminders of your generosity or by injury,- like those who spend their substance to be seen of men, but believe neither in Allah nor in the Last Day.They are in parable like a hard, barren rock, on which is a little soil: on it falls heavy rain, which leaves it (Just) a bare stone.They will be able to do nothing with aught they have earned.And Allah guideth not those who reject faith.265 . And the likeness of those who spend their substance, seeking to please Allah and to strengthen their souls, is as a garden, high and fertile: heavy rain falls on it but makes it yield a double increase of harvest, and if it receives not Heavy rain, light moisture sufficeth it.Allah seeth well whatever ye do.
Quran Al Baqarah - 2:264-265
And what does this prove?!

please sister, i am not here to argue with you so let's not let it descend into a wrangle.
it proves that even charity which is counted out requires Allah's pleasure, which is not achieved by injury followed by it.
a man can give one date sincerely, and another can give $50bn, ones is accepted and the other's isn't.
that's what it proves.
it's not the deed itself, it's how Allah accepts it.