Truth= god does not exist?

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Re: Truth= god does not exsist!

wilberhum said:
You all need to look at what you are saying in response to

First let’s not ignore “Exsist”..
And then evaluate the answers.

Do you believe in the Sun?
The bacterial flagellum's stator, rotor, drive-shaft, U-joint, and propeller
Does chaos create organization?
Can you see light?
i can quite easily slap you, good luck showing me the pain.
if u have a question, ask in a civil manner, not like an animal.
I know its possible, so is the airplane, but someone had to design and create it -- correct?
A blind person will never see the blue sky.
You dont even understand what 'God' is.
You would never get it.
So does choas create organization, something in perfection?
Yet u still have to measure something u can "feel."
so make an equipment to measure someones faith which God himself bestows.
The complexity we find in every system in the universe is a testmony to the power of the Creator.
I dont ask you to believe. But we demand respect buddy.
You have failed to respond to any of our arguements!
You seem to think that because you can 'see' the sun it therefore must exist.
you want me to get a ladder, climb up to heaven.
Can you 'prove' the existence of ANYTHING other than your own mind?
read the Quran. Nothing gets more logical
Prove that you exist.

You guys have done a poor job. Just arguments, no proof like he asked for. And the arguments are really bad. I’m just sitting back laughing. All emotion and no logic.

If you would simply acknowledge that when it comes to god “There is no Proof” you would eliminate a lot of empty rhetoric.
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finally some one who understands my logic
but i can never imagine my self being more straight forward please
pace your self and give them time:happy:
 
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In the name of Peace I am doing some house cleaning. No more off topic arguements will be accepted.
 
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wilberhum said:
You guys have done a poor job. Just arguments, no proof like he asked for. And the arguments are really bad. I’m just sitting back laughing. All emotion and no logic.
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from now on i would like to call you the "circular logic man" lol, is that ok? ;)

The Quran is solid proof of the existence of God. If you just think about it.


:peace:
 
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wilberhum said:
If you would simply acknowledge that when it comes to god “There is no Proof” you would eliminate a lot of empty rhetoric.
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if he would go ahead and prove that G-D doesn't exist also "logically"
Then both arguments can nullify each other and we can call it a day ... and you won't end up instituted from experiencing paroxysmal laughter at inappropriate times....
 
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All we ask is not to disrespect anyones beliefs. For example, u said "this" Allah.

When disrespect has become a part of someone's character, they fail to see it. Thats basically how u were going in this thread and still are.
 
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Hi,
nogod2006 said:
Ansar Al-'Adl said:
'very good' is not an answer to my question. Can you 'prove' the existence of ANYTHING other than your own mind? Can you prove the existence of what you see? How do you know it is not an image conjured in your mind?

I dislike repeating myself. Please answer my questions directly this time.
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and what standard should i use to answer your question
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Okay, let me help you out here. The correct answer is NO you cannot 'prove ' that anything you see around you exists. You cannot 'prove' that your own body exists. So you see, according to your limited concept of proof NOTHING around you exists. So why do you restrict your disbelief to God? Why not disbelieve in EVERYTHING you see, hear, smell or taste. According to your limited concept of proof, you cannot prove the existence of ANY of these things.

So essentially what you have done is created a model of proof that necessitates that nothing can be proven, therefore you have defined God out of existence, which means that your disbelief in him is based upon fallacious circular reasoning. Until you re-evaluate your methodology for understanding the universe around you, you will never find proof for the existence of anything, whether Creator or creation. For the believer, every single thing constitutes proof of an Almighty transcendent power who has created us all. You have not arisen out of chaos and been transformed into a being with conciousness for no purpose or by no cause. Contemplate that.

I'll move on to the next step once you get through all that.

Peace.
 
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nogod2006 said:
finally some one who understands my logic
but i can never imagine my self being more straight forward please
pace your self and give them time:happy:
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Why not call in Joe as well--our board jester and have your very "logical" giggling posse.....
 
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You guys have done a poor job. Just arguments, no proof like he asked for. And the arguments are really bad. I’m just sitting back laughing. All emotion and no logic.
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To say its "all" emotion is pretty absurd. So how does chaos create organization?
 
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Tayyaba said:
All we ask is not to disrespect anyones beliefs. For example, u said "this" Allah.

When disrespect has become a part of someone's character, they fail to see it. Thats basically how u were going in this thread and still are.
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i understand now and i will like to extend my deppest and most sincerest apologies to anyone who was offended by any of my comments
i'll try and be more carefull
 
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actually...why do we want to prove it to him?

is he really interested to know islam? or he just want to refute the existence of god?

if he only wants the fun in refuting....well...guys...i think you are wasting your time...
 
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atheist this question you asked is too easy to answer. if there wasnt a God then where you think we humans came from? not only that, God gave us eyes to see, ears to hear, a brain to think and memorize etc. you think all that happened by itself? i seriously doubt it.
 
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i got to go now .my break is over now
hopefully i can continue this discussion later
 
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wilberhum said:
If you would simply acknowledge that when it comes to god “There is no Proof” you would eliminate a lot of empty rhetoric.
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ROFL!! When it comes to ANYTHING there is no 'proof'!! Have you NEVER heard of solipsism?! Give me 'proof' for the existence of even one thing beyond your mind.
 
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Ok..did ANYONE read my post, from our muslim brothers?lool..better?

I just wanted to know what you thought about the points, good/bad/solid..gimmie feedback ppl!!.lol

Peace
 
Re: Truth= god does not exsist!

There are many theories as to how the universe came about. they all make sense if certain factors are accepted as true. to a person that does not accept those factors, no proof is acceptable.

I accept the fact that Allah(swt) created all. I base this on my belief in his existance. I learned to believe in His existance from historical documentation ascribed to him. I have seen ample verification of enough of the documentations to have no reason to not accept all of it.
 
Re: Truth= god does not exsist!

hakkerz said:
Ok..did ANYONE read my post, from our muslim brothers?lool..better?

I just wanted to know what you thought about the points, good/bad/solid..gimmie feedback ppl!!.lol

Peace
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i'll pm u with some feedback since i wanted to reply to it anyway :) but didnt ant to do it on here.

peace
 
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