Turkey 'bombs PKK targets'

[sevgi]

Thanks for the reply.

Well, I was under the impression the Turkish government got a bit softer on Kurds in general (not necessarily the PKK!). For example, didn't the Turkish government recently allow Kurdish to be taught in schools? And allow Kurdish-language TV to be broadcast?

In general I had somewhat expected the strong economic growth and recent liberal reforms to have eased the tensions. But then again, apparently extremists like the PKK can easily undo any progress.

i wouldnt say they 'got a bit softer'...

i'd say they are trying handle them with care due to the growing tension.

peace.

 

[wilberhum]

Some times I like to be wrong.

US gives PKK intelligence to Turkey
Washington is supplying Turkey with intelligence on the hideouts of Kurdish separatists on the Iraqi border, a Pentagon spokesman has said.

Geoff Morrell, the Pentagon press secretary, said on Wednesday that the US is helping Ankara gain the "actionable" intelligence Washington says is needed before any military strike.

He said: "We are assisting the Turks in their efforts to combat the PKK by supplying them with lots of intelligence.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E82C3E47-217F-445A-8E41-352A04488AE0.htm

 

[sevgi]

Some times I like to be wrong.

US gives PKK intelligence to Turkey
Washington is supplying Turkey with intelligence on the hideouts of Kurdish separatists on the Iraqi border, a Pentagon spokesman has said.

Geoff Morrell, the Pentagon press secretary, said on Wednesday that the US is helping Ankara gain the "actionable" intelligence Washington says is needed before any military strike.

He said: "We are assisting the Turks in their efforts to combat the PKK by supplying them with lots of intelligence.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E82C3E47-217F-445A-8E41-352A04488AE0.htm

wilber ur not wrong,

thanks for what uve provided, i didnt know that.were not here to merely assert out views but to also become enlightened right? thanks.

you cant be one sided in these issue.u must look at all sides. we cant just sit there and **** the west for sitting on their bottoms.they are obviously doing something...

well, id like to say that helping with the finding of such areas is so minor...

sort of makes you think 'how do they know'...lol.

i know that US intelligence is a force to be reckoned with.
bt its clear that turkey doesnt appreciate it, or knows that they can actually do more and that finding the kurdish troops is merely childsplay.its getting em thats the hard bit. turkey doesnt want to do it alone coz they dnt want rivalry.

 

[yigiter187]

Ehm...How does the West support the PKK? They are communists and are on the list of terrorist organizations both in the US and the EU!

let me say only one of many...

roj tv,channel of pkk terrorists,broadcasts in denmark and denmark,they supposedly recognise pkk as terrorist org,let roj tv its broadcast...ı think no need to say other supports...there are many so it will take time...eu and us behave two-facedly to us about pkk..
think a country that comes from thosands of miles away to exterminate terrorism..but same country does nothing to stop pkk which is a hundred miles away,although it recognises pkk as terrorist org...

 

[yigiter187]

and as to the eu media...they are totally blind..they still say "kurdish rebellions" and "kurdish guerillas"...what fool!!!!

for what do u think pkk kills innocents..?tell me this please..

 

[wilberhum]

wilber ur not wrong,

thanks for what uve provided, i didnt know that.were not here to merely assert out views but to also become enlightened right? thanks.

you cant be one sided in these issue.u must look at all sides. we cant just sit there and **** the west for sitting on their bottoms.they are obviously doing something...

well, id like to say that helping with the finding of such areas is so minor...

sort of makes you think 'how do they know'...lol.

i know that US intelligence is a force to be reckoned with.
bt its clear that turkey doesnt appreciate it, or knows that they can actually do more and that finding the kurdish troops is merely childsplay.its getting em thats the hard bit. turkey doesnt want to do it alone coz they dnt want rivalry.

Well I never thought the intellegance help the US was giving was a massave effort. But remember I said/implied NO help. So to that extent, I was wrong. I do think you may have minimized the "Help" more than what is due. But then that all comes to "Personal Openion".

On agreement, the US needs to do a lot more in this area.

 

[Keltoi]

The U.S. is not interested in protecting the PKK, they are interested in not destabilizing yet another portion of Iraq, which a Turkish military incursion into the north would obviously do.

There is also the question of Iraqi sovereignty, which goes back to the effectiveness of the new Iraqi government. If Turkey can just cross the border and strike inside of Iraq, that calls into question the authority of the Iraqi government. It is a complicated set of problems here that goes beyond simply helping or hurting the PKK.

 

[wilberhum]

Rice brands PKK 'common enemy'
Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, has said Washington views Kurdish fighters who have launched attacks on Turkey from Iraq as a "common enemy".

Rice, on a visit to Turkey, said at a press conference on Friday that Washington and Ankara needed to show "commitment and persistence" against the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).

Ali Babacan, Turkey's foreign minister, said in the same press conference that Rice's visit to Turkey marked the start of closer co-operation between the Nato allies against the PKK.

Rice said that Washington and Ankara were working together on intelligence sharing to combat the separatist group.

Rice will later attend wider talks in Istanbul to discuss Ankara's strategy against the PKK, who have launched attacks against Turkey from bases in northern Iraq.

Iraqi officials are also attending the Istanbul conference, which was originally meant to focus on Iraq's long-term stability.

The meeting comes amid concerns that Turkey may launch cross-border raids against fighters from the PKK.

Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, is also attending the talks.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/54CD83B4-DD10-42A4-9A05-5D07471CACA6.htm

 

[wilberhum]

Turkish soldiers die in PKK clashes
Four Turkish soldiers have been killed and two injured in clashes with Kurdish fighters in the southeast of the country, the Turkish army has said.

A lieutenant and three privates died on Tuesday while battling Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) fighters on Mount Kupeli, Sirnak province, the statement said. It gave no figure on PKK losses.

Local security sources had earlier reported that the clashes occurred on Mount Gabar, which is close to Kupeli.

The soldiers were the first casualties of the conflict on Turkish territory since November 7 when troops killed three PKK separatist fighters.

Turkish helicopters later bombed villages in northern Iraq where Kurdish fighters are suspected to be hiding, two Turkish television channels reported.

CNN Turk television, quoting Iraqi officials, said the villages had been empty at the time.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/430BA546-0EEB-45AA-A55E-0843558DAA8C.htm

 

[yigiter187]

"kurdısh fıghters"?

western media will learn everything soon..

 

[KAding]

"kurdısh fıghters"?

western media will learn everything soon..

I personally wouldn't call Al-jazeera 'Western' .

I suppose you want them to call them Kurdish terrorists? This is not bias IMHO. The Western media doesn't even call the Taliban terrorists or even the Iraqi 'insurgents'.

 

[yigiter187]

I personally wouldn't call Al-jazeera 'Western' .

I suppose you want them to call them Kurdish terrorists? This is not bias IMHO. The Western media doesn't even call the Taliban terrorists or even the Iraqi 'insurgents'.

but ı wud personally call it as " western media"

 

[wilberhum]

but ı wud personally call it as " western media"

And if I call a fish a bicycle, what does that mean?

I would guess. totally stupid. :muddlehea

 

[wilberhum]

but ı wud personally call it as " western media"

And if I call a fish a bicycle, what does that mean?

I would guess. totally stupid. :muddlehea

 

[Cognescenti]

but ı wud personally call it as " western media"

The Arabic language service of Al Jazeera is no more "Western" than John Wayne was Indian. (I think he did play Genghis Khan once but it was a serious error in creative judgment).

 

[yigiter187]

And if I call a fish a bicycle, what does that mean?

I would guess. totally stupid. :muddlehea

stupid hahaha!!

let me give a sample...coca-cola is a western brand,company right?
coca-cola has a factory in turkey..does this change the fact that coca-cola is western?

 

[wilberhum]

stupid hahaha!!

let me give a sample...coca-cola is a western brand,company right?
coca-cola has a factory in turkey..does this change the fact that coca-cola is western?

But Al-jazeera is owned and operated from Quatar. So your Coca-Cola analagy is another fish and bicycle example.

So ya, it is really stupid. :-\

You really need to address why you refuse to accept reality.

 

[al-muslimah]

See turkey has a secular and anti-islamic government.Those kuffar turkey miloitary are figting with the kurdish mujahideen Ansarul Islam who came into power a few years ago in Kurdistan and they want to stop them fomr adopting sharia. Indeed the curse of Allah is upon the disbelievers.

 

[sevgi]

The Arabic language service of Al Jazeera is no more "Western" than John Wayne was Indian. (I think he did play Genghis Khan once but it was a serious error in creative judgment).

genghis khaan wasnt indian....

+o(

 

[yigiter187]

See turkey has a secular and anti-islamic government.Those kuffar turkey miloitary are figting with the kurdish mujahideen Ansarul Islam who came into power a few years ago in Kurdistan and they want to stop them fomr adopting sharia. Indeed the curse of Allah is upon the disbelievers.

can u post a map that shows where the "kurdistan" is?

and ı think u know what it means to call a muslim as "kuffar"...