Turkey is part of Europe. Fear keeps it out of the EU.

[Santoku]

I believe that the problem is (officially) the human rights record of Turkey, the primary problem is Greece, the Greekas and the Turks have been enemies for millenia (literally) and the Greeks have too many allies in the council to allow them in

Second. The Turkish invasion of Cyprus (just for information) was mandated by the Tripartite pact of 1958 between Greece, Turkey and the UK. It was prompted by EOKA B under a Colonel Grivas who wanted enosis (union with Greece) who tried to force the union by taking over the government.

 

[Muezzin]

Because the reason they want in to the EU is because they want to migrate to the UK and as soon as they get to the UK they want to change the culture of the country to same culture that caused the country the left to fail.

You're ranting again...

Only rants don't make sense and don't agree with the facts, which are thus:

All this 'culture-changing' malarkey is due not to first generation immigrants from whicever country, but rather it is due to some of their descendants, who were born in 'The West'*, and have developed an identity crisis of sort.

*In the context of geo-politics, I loathe these 'East' and 'West' terms. Last I checked, the Iron Curtain was officially torn down in the late 80s/early 90s.

 

[Zafran]

thinker is still living in Iron curtain age - very dangerous - he also forgets that pakistan was in the fight against afganistan long before Turkey - all thanks to the bullying of the US and it tyranical friends.

 

[Zafran]

Turkey is a member of Nato – I stand corrected :embarrass And Turkey has troops in Afghanistan . . . .

FM Ismail Cem says in an interview Ankara will deploy 90 special forces troops to Afghanistan. (This will make Turkey the first Muslim nation to join the US-led attacks on the Taliban

I find myself with an overwhelming urge to wave the Turkish flag – well done Turkey :thumbs_up

you still havent told me how afganistan would become more stable with more troops and militery power in afghanistan - thats just going fuel more support for al qeada and the taliban and make it even more dangerous.

 

[Thinker]

you still havent told me how afganistan would become more stable with more troops and militery power in afghanistan - thats just going fuel more support for al qeada and the taliban and make it even more dangerous.

The world would be more stable because it would then not be a non-Muslims v Muslim thing but a union of nations fighting against crime, terrorism and repression.

 

[Zafran]

The world would be more stable because it would then not be a non-Muslims v Muslim thing but a union of nations fighting against crime, terrorism and repression.

???

a bit like the pakistanis and americans murdering people in Pakistan - how has that helped anybody and made the world a better place????? Thats exactly what the terrorist have done - they think they can "fight" there way - whne in fact its made it even worse.

 

[GuestFellow]

The world would be more stable because it would then not be a non-Muslims v Muslim thing but a union of nations fighting against crime, terrorism and repression.

These problems have existed right before September 11th and it was due to meddling in other countries internal affairs, past wars and unresolved conflicts. For you to sum it up as non-Muslims V Muslim is very naive.

There will never be a more stable world until people start to actually look at their past mistakes. Find out the direct source of the problem, find out how it has escalated, find a solution to the problem and make sure it does not happen again.

Fighting fire with fire will not work here. How many people will have to be killed for the Western government to realise this?

 

[Thinker]

These problems have existed right before September 11th and it was due to meddling in other countries internal affairs, past wars and unresolved conflicts. For you to sum it up as non-Muslims V Muslim is very naive.

I'm not suggesting there is a non-Muslims v Muslim fight going on, I am suggesting that some Muslims view it that way and that Turkey putting its troops alongside other (non-Muslims) nato troops is a good thing as that weakens the argument of those saying it is.

 

[Zafran]

I'm not suggesting there is a non-Muslims v Muslim fight going on, I am suggesting that some Muslims view it that way and that Turkey putting its troops alongside other (non-Muslims) nato troops is a good thing as that weakens the argument of those saying it is.

how is that going to make anything stable in the world - you do understand that it hasnt with other "muslim" countries.

 

[Muezzin]

I'm not suggesting there is a non-Muslims v Muslim fight going on, I am suggesting that some Muslims view it that way and that Turkey putting its troops alongside other (non-Muslims) nato troops is a good thing as that weakens the argument of those saying it is.

Those who think it is a non-Muslim vs Muslim thing would see this as further evidence supporting their hypothesis. They would simply cast Turkey as a traitor.