U.S. Launches Attack on Suspected Al Qaeda Members in Somalia

[_Mujahida]

Yawn, oink.......if you are going to complain about the many evils of the U.S., at least complain about the true ones. They are not attacking the somali people or even somalia. They are attacking terrorists.

what terrorists? we muslim are all terroris

 

[KAding]

what terrorists? we muslim are all terroris

Don't be silly.

People who blow up civilian targets are terrorists, those who do not are not.

 

[_Mujahida]

So u think that the family that the US blow up in somaila are terrorists

 

[MTAFFI]

So u think that the family that the US blow up in somaila are terrorists

perhaps, definitely some of the people around them were and you know what they say

"You are who you associate with"

 

[MTAFFI]

na'ala american kan, wadnka ka baha

curse, Ethiopia, America, get out of Somalia, there was more peace with the Islamic Court

allahuma iqwannal Mujahideen fe Somal :amin:

yeah once they killed everyone opposed to it

 

[KAding]

So u think that the family that the US blow up in somaila are terrorists

I don't know yet.

 

[FBI]

I don't know yet.

Wow Just great I'm sure the US also probably don't know yet, And they have the nerve to call people terrorist when they kill innocents aswell.

 

[_Mujahida]

but u kw all about the so call terrorists that they killing

 

[MTAFFI]

in 10-15 more years all u see happening now will happen again, USA will be attacked again, yet this time the base were Islamic fighters will be at will not be afghanistan but somalia, and usa will make 'war on terror' like they are doing now only now the scene will be somalia and sudan etc, this is prob gonna happen in the next decade, its all a script, a show,

Are you crazy? Who is the show being run by, the extremist? What do you expect to happen when someone attacks another country and says "We are waging a Holy war against you"

all set up i mean the fact you can predict all this stuff so easily and it comes to pass proves it, this is all a show being made by some top ppl who want control and power, war=money, money=power, power= domination,

War=less money less money= less power less power= less domination
You logic is flawed

the 'real war' hasnt begun yet folks, what u see is a scripted war, the real war will begin when we all realize that all we see is a show and events that are being set up, and when we realize that thats when the real war will begin.

What would a real war be to you exactly, my friend? Do you think any of these countries would defeat the US in a "real" war? How about NO, it would take a matter of days to make those countries no more than holes in the ground, for lack of a better analogy it would be a mouse fighting a bull. The US doesnt do this because there are some good people there that want nothing more than peace. That is what makes this "War on Terror" such a pain, because the people that we fight against are cowards who hide in civilian clothes. Do you think that these countries are going to stand up and say "Lets fight the US because some idiots live in our country who want everyone to comform to their beliefs", no it is a blessing that the US helps these people. These islamic radicals want a government their way or no way and that isnt an Islamic State it is a dictatorship. I hope these countries do come together and say "Lets be an Islamic state" as long as it is the will of ALL the people and not just a few.

All that said, the area that was the target was believe to be, after extensive research and intelligence gathering, a hideout for someone who bombed the US embassies. I pray that the main target was hit in this operation. Isnt it funny, I bet the guy thought he was safe just like bin Laden probably will 10 years from now.

 

[starfortress]

Lawmaker Abdirashid Mohamed Hidig said after touring the region in an Ethiopian helicopter that at least 50 people were killed by U.S. and Ethiopian air strikes.

The government source said four new U.S. strikes hit areas near Ras Kamboni, a coastal village close to the Kenyan border long thought by Western and east African intelligence agencies to be a hideout and training camp for Islamic militants.

"As we speak now, the area is being bombarded by the American air force," said the source, talking to Reuters on condition of anonymity.

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Bush didn't bring those responsible to justice. He simply led The U.S on a war that had nothing to do with justice. And as we find out day by day, it had far more to do with injustice than justice,like a villages were struck only because they believe where the suspects were thought to be hiding.

Those action were criticized by new U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon, France, the European Union, former colonial power Italy, Egypt and the Arab League,but got supported from Blair and Somali President:exhausted .I wonder if Palau,Iceland etc would be on the list.:-[

If im asked the rational behind these actions,i'll says The U.S had lost their credibility in the eyes of world(Muslim ) since the first day they have launched a war against Iraq(2003 invasion of Iraq) surprisingly they can lies on that,why not on these.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

 

[Woodrow]

Oyeah I forgot another one. These Warlords are terrorist and by U.S support and abeting of terrorist they are deemed a legit target for war.

Have to agree with you there.


The question I have is who does the majority of the Somolians support. It is not a question of are the majority right or wrong it is a question of what does Somalia want.

For myself I am finding conflicting stories as to who is who. The only thing anybody can agree on is the warlords were/are terrorists at least to the Somalians. I can not find any unified agreement about the IC.

I do know that for a long time many people in Somalia were very much in favor of things like drugs, alcohol and Pornography and the IC did stop that. The problem is did they stop it by force or through support of the people?

Do we have a right to force people to accept the laws of Islam if they do not want to fully follow Islam?

 

[Islamicboy]

Do we have a right to force people to accept the laws of Islam if they do not want to fully follow Islam?

Every country has laws that people dont want to follow. For example majority of the people disagree with the drinking age in Canada. Yet the age is still the same and the laws still apply. Is this not force that a 16 year old cannot walk into a bar and get a drink? For some reason whenever its islamic law people start to wonder if the residents who probably make minority of the population do not want the laws. If the people don't like the islamic laws and prefer to be slaves of their desires (i.e. Americans) then they could always move.

 

[Woodrow]

Every country has laws that people dont want to follow. For example majority of the people disagree with the drinking age in Canada. Yet the age is still the same and the laws still apply. Is this not force that a 16 year old cannot walk into a bar and get a drink? For some reason whenever its islamic law people start to wonder if the residents who probably make minority of the population do not want the laws. If the people don't like the islamic laws and prefer to be slaves of their desires (i.e. Americans) then they could always move.

I can understand where you are coming from. In fact to a very large degree I agree with you.

So in essence what you are saying if the Islamic Court does come back and is successful in gaining control of the Government. Those that do not like it can either leave or live with the laws. Even if they are the majority of the population and those in agreement with the laws are a small minority.

 

[MTAFFI]

Every country has laws that people dont want to follow. For example majority of the people disagree with the drinking age in Canada. Yet the age is still the same and the laws still apply. Is this not force that a 16 year old cannot walk into a bar and get a drink? For some reason whenever its islamic law people start to wonder if the residents who probably make minority of the population do not want the laws. If the people don't like the islamic laws and prefer to be slaves of their desires (i.e. Americans) then they could always move.

The difference is you are forcing the law of a religion on people. Many of which do not share the same religion. In Canada no one is forcing the laws of a religion they enforce laws that cater to everyone, regardless of religion, race, etc. Why should anyone have to live under the laws of someone elses religion? If you dont believe in it, then why should you have to follow it. Tell me on law that Canada has that a follower of Islam would want to break, or that a Muslim feels is unjust. Also basic freedom under this law are at times taken away, take Irans journalists for example, if they report negatively on their government they get shut down, is that fair?

With that said, Somalia is a country whose main religion is Sunni Muslim, and if these people want an Islamic State then why do they just not vote for someone to take control of the government that could get this accomplished. They give themselves and Islam a bad name with their lack of respect for life. Many of the people these people kill are guilty of nothing, they are just bystanders. It seems Islam is making itself known throughout the world for taking countries by force, which prompts civil war, which prompts other countries to intervene.

 

[MTAFFI]

It looks like the main targets were not hit, special ops and other forces are after them though it looks like, I pray these pieces of terrorist garbage are taken out quickly.
:raging:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070111/ap_on_re_af/somalia

 

[Islamicboy]

I pray these pieces of terrorist garbage are taken out quickly.

Yes, I too hope the islamic courts takes out these invading terrorist out of their country fast.

 

[Islamicboy]

I can understand where you are coming from. In fact to a very large degree I agree with you.

So in essence what you are saying if the Islamic Court does come back and is successful in gaining control of the Government. Those that do not like it can either leave or live with the laws. Even if they are the majority of the population and those in agreement with the laws are a small minority.

I dont think majority of the muslims would disagree with shariah laws. I mean my family lived under shariah law in saudi arabia they never had any complains. Its the western media thats make islamic law look difficult to follow or just too much. Also as far as I know democracy and islamic system are two different systems. In democracy its by the people for the people where a president is picked by the majority of the voters. But in islam a khilafah is not picked by majority of the population living in a country the khilafah is apointed by a group of scholars who judge him on whether he is moral, religious etc.. I have to see a country which ruled by shariah and majority of the people did not like it. The only reason many muslims can stand saudi arabia some bad laws because they still have shariah in their court system.

 

[Islamicboy]

The difference is you are forcing the law of a religion on people. Many of which do not share the same religion. In Canada no one is forcing the laws of a religion they enforce laws that cater to everyone, regardless of religion, race, etc. Why should anyone have to live under the laws of someone elses religion? If you dont believe in it, then why should you have to follow it. Tell me on law that Canada has that a follower of Islam would want to break, or that a Muslim feels is unjust. Also basic freedom under this law are at times taken away, take Irans journalists for example, if they report negatively on their government they get shut down, is that fair?

With that said, Somalia is a country whose main religion is Sunni Muslim, and if these people want an Islamic State then why do they just not vote for someone to take control of the government that could get this accomplished. They give themselves and Islam a bad name with their lack of respect for life. Many of the people these people kill are guilty of nothing, they are just bystanders. It seems Islam is making itself known throughout the world for taking countries by force, which prompts civil war, which prompts other countries to intervene.

Under the shariah law non muslims are not forced to pray (salat)... So don't worry no one is going to force there religion on you. Iran has nothing to do with Shariah..

Islamic courts were killing people??? The reason people could not come out and vote because of the warlords in Somalia who are probably backed by USA. Also why should they have to come and vote Islamic courts were doing good everyone could see it was very plain and clear. America cannot stand stabilized muslim nations therefore they attacked Somalia.

Civil War
There are always rebels in each country even in america there are people who would start a war. But no one gives them weapons to go around killing people for there demands. Where Iran and the western countries backed Northern alliance in afganistan thus they were as powerful as the government. Iraq Sunnis are getting money and weapons from other sunni countries and shias are getting them from america and iran. There are many groups in america that would do exactly the same if they were given weapons and equipment to fight american government ofcourse they too could do that.

 

[MTAFFI]

Under the shariah law non muslims are not forced to pray (salat)... So don't worry no one is going to force there religion on you.

I didnt mean forced to pray but some of the laws are based on Islamic beliefs. This is what I believe causes the civil wars.

Iran has nothing to do with Shariah..

I did not know that, I know they are an Islamic State so what laws do they go by, if you dont know that is fine I will just research it.

Islamic courts were killing people???

They were actually a militia loyal to the ICU, and yes they were killing innocents who didnt agree with their cause, these werent necessarily people that sided with the warlords either.

The reason people could not come out and vote because of the warlords in Somalia who are probably backed by USA.

This is just a theory, however it is probable. On the other hand this government didnt even hold office long enough to hold formal elections.

Also why should they have to come and vote Islamic courts were doing good everyone could see it was very plain and clear. America cannot stand stabilized muslim nations therefore they attacked Somalia.

The ICU was doing no better than any other form of government, in fact they may have been worse. They say they are for the people but they wish to impose strict moral laws which many of the people disagree with (such as forbidding watching soccer in public) Somaliland and Puntland to the north are governed (not under islamic law) and are a fairly peaceful part of the country. Maybe this should be done to all of Somalia, just split it up and let each part govern itself.

Civil War
There are always rebels in each country even in america there are people who would start a war. But no one gives them weapons to go around killing people for there demands. Where Iran and the western countries backed Northern alliance in afganistan thus they were as powerful as the government. Iraq Sunnis are getting money and weapons from other sunni countries and shias are getting them from america and iran. There are many groups in america that would do exactly the same if they were given weapons and equipment to fight american government ofcourse they too could do that.

Acutually this is kind of untrue, in America no one "gives" us weapons, however you have the constitutional right to bear arms. For instance, I own a wide array of different weapons, not really so much to use (hopefully) but more because they are just like a hobby. These are not just pistols either, and not only that but anyone without a criminal record can obtain these weapons by simply filling out a permit and in some cases taking a class. The problem is (in this part you are right) these people are being supplied with weapons and have known nothing but war their whole lives, which will obviously only fuel the fire. I do not think though that this sort of thing would break out in America, most of Europe or more developed countries like these, it is just not civil. The kind of thinking these people have is very primitive in nature. God help them all, and I pray the Lord brings peace to everyone in these devastated regions.

here is a source for my facts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia

 

[Woodrow]

There are many groups in america that would do exactly the same if they were given weapons and equipment to fight american government ofcourse they too could do that.

We do have a number of militant groups that do just that. Buying many types of weapons is legal here as long as the buyer is a US citizen and has never been convicted of a feloney or any crime of violence and has not advocated the violent over throw of the government.