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One of the absolute most beautiful persons I have ever known was a man who had been born with a disability. No matter how severe his pain, he constantly was happy and gave thanks to God. I could tell you all about this beautiful man, but I don't have the time right now.
 
salams..

I just think sometimes people don't really meant what they say...and sometimes we're being too defensive.

InshaAllah with the right attitude and character... we will feel more confident with ourselves. and we will feel grateful of every inch of our body given by Allah swt...because every creation of Allah swt is beautiful. and InshaAllah from there...we don't feel the need to feel 'hurt' for others 'hurtful' remark :).
 
Jazakallah for the Great Reminder
May Allaah help the Muslims and keep them on the right paths, and following the commandments of the Right Path..Indeed .Ameen
 
The question that sometimes pops up in my head is that why did these people have to be born with such disabilities .... why be tested by God by not even being a completely functioning human .... any answers to that? I've met disabled people who are way more thankful to God than I am .... I dont know why dont they feel depressed in the situation they find themselves in, maybe the fault lies in me cuz shaitan has seeped into every neuron of my brain.
 
^ People are born with disabilities because Allah decreed for it to be that way..And there's wisdom behind everything that happens..but we don't know
And also, disabled people are thankful to God because they think about all the other blessings Allah gave them but because we have so many blessings that we don't even realise, we sometimes forget to thank Allah..
Hope that answers your question ..
 
Misz_Muslimah said:
^ People are born with disabilities because Allah decreed for it to be that way..And there's wisdom behind everything that happens..but we don't know
And also, disabled people are thankful to God because they think about all the other blessings Allah gave them but because we have so many blessings that we don't even realise, we sometimes forget to thank Allah..
Hope that answers your question ..
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So in essence what you said proves that we hve no free-will in the end. Everything is decreed by God, even our free-will. An analogy that makes it easier for me to think: God carved out the path of river to the ocean. We are the river waters flowing in that path. Also flowing because God willed it so.
 
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^ What do you mean about free will? :hmm:
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the choice to do things the way we want. If someone is a Muslim then it is because God has decreed it so. If someone is a kaafir then it is also because God has decreed it so. Everything has been decreed in Lauhun mahfooz.
 
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mad_scientist said:
So in essence what you said proves that we hve no free-will in the end. Everything is decreed by God, even our free-will. An analogy that makes it easier for me to think: God carved out the path of river to the ocean. We are the river waters flowing in that path. Also flowing because God willed it so.
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We do have choice between right and wrong.

What do you make of the hadith that says dua is one thing that can change a person's destiny?

From what I understand, a person is able to make dua that Allah grants him Jannah and his final resting place, if it was first destined to be hell, can be changed.
 
Alpha Dude said:
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We do have choice between right and wrong.

What do you make of the hadith that says dua is one thing that can change a person's destiny?

From what I understand, a person is able to make dua that Allah grants him Jannah and his final resting place, if it was first destined to be hell, can be changed.
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if I remember reading from Islamqa, the sheikh said that dua changing a destiny is also an act which has been pre-decreed by God. So Allah swt had decreed that a person will make dua and as a result his destiny will change.
 
^dude you say the strangest things sometimes. Allah cant be unjust. if he says he has given us free will he has no reason to lie.

at the end of the day Allah knows the decisions we will make but we havent been forced to do them. just like i know my son will aways run home after school and play ps3 doesnt mean ive forced him to do it.
 
Allahu Alam. I'd have to see the actual article and see what the consensus of Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamah is on this issue, to accept for certain what the shaykh said.

Regardless, the bigger issue here is that we have been told to not delve to deeply into this particular issue of qadr.

Therefore, it is an incorrect approach of you to make proclamations like us having no freewill. Think of the implications of that: it would give us an excuse on the day of judgement that we were not responsibe for our actions and it would render any divine punishment unjust. Obviously, we know that Allah is Al Adl, The Most Just, hence something is amiss in that assumption of yours.

The correct approach on this matter is to accept that Allah has withheld the knowledge of qadr. It is a confusing matter, especially for the layman and thus we have been told to avoid it.

It is enough that, if you accept Allah as real and Prophet Muhammad Sallalahu Alaihe Was Salam as being truthful, that you submit and not question such issues more than is necessary. Don't open the door to shaytan bro.
 
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tango92 said:
^dude you say the strangest things sometimes. Allah cant be unjust. if he says he has given us free will he has no reason to lie.

at the end of the day Allah knows the decisions we will make but we havent been forced to do them. just like i know my son will aways run home after school and play ps3 doesnt mean ive forced him to do it.
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I did not say Allah is unjust. if Allah has pre-destined someone to Hell, how is it unjust? Allah is the best of Judges and His decision is the best one. The only thing is that we do not know what Allah has pre-destined. So we keep trying .... that is all humans can do in the end ... keep trying. Allah had pre-destined that Muslims will loose in Uhad, that is exactly what happened despite the efforts made by Muslims. We can say ooh they made this and that error and did not listen to Prophet's command but you ever noticed that some people make so many mistakes yet they dont get to see failures and success is always shining on them?



From Islamqa:

You should also note that belief in al-qadar is not valid unless you believe in the four aspects of al-qadar, which are as follows:

1 – Belief that Allaah knows all things, in general terms and in detail, from eternity to eternity. Not a single atom is unknown to Him in the heavens or on earth.

2 – Belief that Allaah has decreed all things in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz, fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth.

3 – Belief that the will of Allaah is irresistable and His decree is comprehensive, so nothing happens in this universe, good or bad, but by His will.

4 – Belief that all that exists was created by Allaah. He is the Creator of all beings and the Creator of their attributes and actions, as He says (interpretation of the meaning)...


So, we do have a free-will. But this free-will works according to what God has willed. Proof? From islam qa http://islamqa.com/en/ref/49004/free will

"That a person’s will and ability do not operate outside the will and decree of Allaah, Who is the One Who has given him that ability and made him able to distinguish (between good and evil) and make his choice, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And you cannot will unless (it be) that Allaah wills the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists)”

[al-Takweer 81:29]"
 
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Alpha Dude said:
Allahu Alam. I'd have to see the actual article and see what the consensus of Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamah is on this issue, to accept for certain what the shaykh said.

Regardless, the bigger issue here is that we have been told to not delve to deeply into this particular issue of qadr.

Therefore, it is an incorrect approach of you to make proclamations like us having no freewill. Think of the implications of that: it would give us an excuse on the day of judgement that we were not responsibe for our actions and it would render any divine punishment unjust. Obviously, we know that Allah is Al Adl, The Most Just, hence something is amiss in that assumption of yours.

The correct approach on this matter is to accept that Allah has withheld the knowledge of qadr. It is a confusing matter, especially for the layman and thus we have been told to avoid it.

It is enough that, if you accept Allah as real and Prophet Muhammad Sallalahu Alaihe Was Salam as being truthful, that you submit and not question such issues more than is necessary. Don't open the door to shaytan bro.
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I agree. Its a constant battle of reason and belief. Some people overcome it. For others it remains a matter of concern till death takes them. As umar (ra) said that he was thankful that Allah (swt) did not try him in matters of belief after he accepted Islam till his death. I pray to God to not try us in belief as well.
 
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Regarding the issue of qadr, I heard an answer to this by Sheikh Yasir Qadhi which made sense. He explained that Qadr is of various levels. There is the ultimate Qadr which is already known to Allah and which doesn't change. There is also the yearly Qadr and weekly Qadr which does change but these changes were already known to Allah and so it doesn't affect the ultimate Qadr.

I can't explain it very well but I agree with Br. Alpha that, as layman, we shouldn't get ourselves into a muddle by delving into it too much as the texts forbid us from doing so. And Allah knows best.
 

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