UK Rocker Wants Israeli Separation Wall Down

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Sis786 said:
I question anything Isreal does to make "Peace"
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Sure they want peace, but on their own terms. Just like Pals ;).

Besides, there is "Peace" and there is "peace". The first assumes peaceful coexistance without a desire to kill eachother, while the latter just means that there is no killing going on. The fence brings us closer to the latter kind of peace, not the former.
 
KAding said:
Getting rid of the fence is the worst thing that could happen in the Pal-Israeli conflict. It will lead to an escalation of violence. The only reason why the number of dead Pals has been declining over recent years is the decline in bombings in Israel and the fence plays a major role in that.
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Yeah ur right
 
KAding said:
Sure they want peace, but on their own terms. Just like Pals ;).

Besides, there is "Peace" and there is "peace". The first assumes peaceful coexistance without a desire to kill eachother, while the latter just means that there is no killing going on. The fence brings us closer to the latter kind of peace, not the former.
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Hmm maybe but i would disagree, firstly as they refuse to make any kind of contact or agreement with Hamas. Secondly they attack innocnet civilians all the time.
 
HeiGou said:
Sorry? Who built a wall 2,500 years ago? You mean when David captured the city?

The Wall has reduced the number of suicide bombings enormously.
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Those walls were raised twice before... and they were brought down... twice before.

I wouldn't rely on the drop in suicide bombings as proof that the problem is solved. That's like saying if you cover up a wound with plastic to stop the bleeding, the problem is solved, while completely ignoring the fact that you are allowing an infection to fester beneath it. Go ahead, and allow the rage to fester, and they'll find a way around that wall. It happened before and it will happen again.

I don't want to weird anyone out here, but this is worse than watching a TV re-run! Nothing new... just alot of 'been-there...done-that'.

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Sis786 said:
Hmm maybe but i would disagree, firstly as they refuse to make any kind of contact or agreement with Hamas. Secondly they attack innocnet civilians all the time.
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Agreed. The sons of Benjamin and Judah have disobeyed their own laws, and if I were them, I would be asking my neighbors what type of atonement would be required of them to end the dispute once and for all, but they seem to think they are above the laws and do not owe their neighbors anything. In truth, they owe every one of them, if for anything, for the very survival of their remnant. Personally, I can't believe they even took the name of Israel for themselves.... considering the fact that they fought Israel in the first place!

Ninth Scribe
 
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HeiGou said:
Well it should be moved perhaps. Additional land grabs are wrong. But the Wall has brought some peace. Gaza's is excellent and still working efficiently. When was the last time you heard of a bombing from Gaza?

This is the wave of the future. Oddly enough Martin van Creveld predicted as much. Walls like this are going up in Kashmir, and around Bangladesh, they exist around Spain's enclaves in North Africa, Thailand is building one, even Saudi Arabia is building one not only along the border with Yemen but also Iraq. The future is clear - Muslims in one part of the world, non-Muslims in another and a big Fence running down the middle.
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That is exactly what you would like, I suppose.
 

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