Understanding the ban on women driving in Saudi

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Or we could do the world a favour and gag Isambard and save us all from his sarcasm and illogical exaggerations.
 
You guys are right, sisters Malaikah and Faizah, the government does have to protect it's citizens. But also, in my opinion, their lack of proper law enforcement when it comes to young teenage boys driving without a license, speeding men killing whole families and not being held accountable for it, etc. will harm society just the same, if not worse. One of the problems in this country is they focus too much on small aspects of something, and totally ignore other much more important aspects.

I apologize if I'm coming off as aggressive, but this topic is such a huge issue for me, I've seen the lives of so many people around me destroyed because of driving here, I can't help going overboard.
 
crayon said:
But also, in my opinion, their lack of proper law enforcement when it comes to young teenage boys driving without a license, speeding men killing whole families and not being held accountable for it, etc. will harm society just the same, if not worse.
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Well, of course, I agree!
 
i expect accidents to multiply by loads.

men harass women who are out even with their husbands, can you imagine what theyd do if they saw women behind the wheel? they sure wouldnt be watching the roads
 
amani said:
i expect accidents to multiply by loads.

men harass women who are out even with their husbands, can you imagine what theyd do if they saw women behind the wheel? they sure wouldnt be watching the roads
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That's really sad. Many times Saudi Arabia is glorified to be a very good Islamic place, but one of the most important aspects, like adaab and how women are treated in Islam, is obviously not much cared there, it's just... Sad. I can understand the law now, when everyone explains why it's enforced but I lack to understand how this Islamic country has let it go so far. :-\

InshaAllah it will become better in time.
 
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Or we could do the world a favour and gag Isambard and save us all from his sarcasm and illogical exaggerations.
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Please tell me how it is illogical. Im simply following your reasoning.

PS. I take the Saudis ahvent discovered the magic of roll-up windows. Perhaps someday, this technological marvel will reach their side of the world:'(
 
Yeah, because we all walk around in a cylindrical glass box with roll up windows. These guys don't just stop being jerks when they leave their car. And they can harm women in other ways, if they intimidate them by following them around, or driving too close or too fast to them.
 
crayon said:
Yeah, because we all walk around in a cylindrical glass box with roll up windows. These guys don't just stop being jerks when they leave their car. And they can harm women in other ways, if they intimidate them by following them around, or driving too close or too fast to them.
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For a country with so much security (including a religious police), they seem to be grossly inefficent at protecting folk:rolleyes:
 
:salamext: and greetings,

If this turns in to yet another one of those threads where Saudi Arabia is repeatedly mocked, it will inevitably be closed. I'm sure we all have better things to do with our time than making asinine and unapprised remarks about Saudi.
 
crayon said:
One of the problems in this country is they focus too much on small aspects of something, and totally ignore other much more important aspects.
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Like I said before, they worry too much about relatively insignificant things, while forgetting about the actual problems with society.
 
Isambard said:
Please tell me how it is illogical. Im simply following your reasoning.
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Because men harassing girls in cars (even when they are not alone) is COMMON! Men harassing women for a word they accidentally over heard is not.

PS. I take the Saudis ahvent discovered the magic of roll-up windows. Perhaps someday, this technological marvel will reach their side of the world:'(
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Welcome to the real world. :rolleyes:
 
question: because makka and medinah are located there, is it forbidden to criticize saudi arabia and its government like one would any other country?
do they make stupid mistakes and do stupid things like other countries, or do they have some kind of immunity?
 
As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

Saudi Arabia well couldn’t understand or appreciate the reasoning against women driving. Saudis and residents who are familiar with the issue cite logistical and practical problems and concerns. No one claims the ban is Islamic. In Prophet’s (peace be upon him) time, women rode their horses and camels. In other Islamic countries, women didn’t have to compromise their modest dress code to drive. And they drive as well as men, if not better and safer.

A suggestion would be to fill the streets with competent, well-trained and prepared police, and have them clean up the act on the streets here. Maybe after a few months of over ticketing and tight restrictions you may have a situation where women will feel comfortable driving. You will also have to have driving schools for women and then, maybe, the country can conceptualize driving for women.

Another thing that needs to change is the attitude some men have toward women in this country. If the laws are there to make women feel more comfortable when in public then they are retroactive.

Sister Fatima
 
snakelegs said:
question: because makka and medinah are located there, is it forbidden to criticize saudi arabia and its government like one would any other country?
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No.

The one reason I am getting 'defensive' is because I know many people (mostly women) who live/lived in Saudi and they have all told me that the ban is needed, and that the society isn't ready for the change yet.
 
Well shouldn't they stop these few individuls from doing such things (I presume it's only a few select men, or are they all unable to control their sexual desires?)

Why should women (or men) suffer for the acts of a few!

*Wonders if this post wll be deleted as previous one was*
 
Interesting thread. I've always wondered about this ban in Saudi Arabia. Based on this thread, and this thread alone, I can only surmise that the problems are inherently linked to the lack of discipline of men.

There are crazy drivers across the whole world, and I've seen a lot of dodgy traffic and driving on my travels. This doesn't mean that one gender is banned from driving to ease the casualties on the road. But if the root cause is the behaviour of men, then that is what should be addressed. Glad to hear that the Saudi government is at least considering changing the ban on women mashallah.

islamicompare
 
:salamext:

Why should women (or men) suffer for the acts of a few!
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You have sort of got a point there... But hey, when ur there... thats when u realise its for the best! :)
 
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