undisputed miracles of the Holy Quraan

[S1aveofA11ah]

Greetings,

Further to wtp's excellent question, can anyone provide a list of scientists who have converted to Islam after making statements on the miraculous nature of the Qur'an?

Peace

I don't have a comprehensive list as such but a few youtube links:


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QhHr7OBQrKs

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0IspK651RpY

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=73EfykhtXsE

type in 'scientists who converted to islam' in youtube homepage for more. Hope this helps.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

Thanks for the information, guys. I'll try to digest it over the next couple of days.

Peace

 

[tarek samy]

SUBHANALLAH ,ALLAH AKBAR, may allah reward you for this post

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Maurice Bucaille did.


Here you go.
http://www.islamicbulletin.org/newsletters/issue_6/embraced.aspx


Interesting to note his reasons for not openly professing his belife. THis is most proabably the same case with Moore. THey dont want their reputation to be lost.

Did Moore convert?

 

[tarek samy]

yes he converted

look here:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ9L-WRyUU8

 

[Hamayun]

Greetings,

Further to wtp's excellent question, can anyone provide a list of scientists who have converted to Islam after making statements on the miraculous nature of the Qur'an?

Peace

Greetings,


Surely any scientist who had become convinced that there were scientific miracles in the Qur'an would convert to Islam?

Peace

Greetings,

Thanks for the information, guys. I'll try to digest it over the next couple of days.

Peace

Did Moore convert?

I don't see the point in replying to these questions when a quick search would reveal the answers.

All I can say to you guys is this...... :rollseyes

 

[Gator]

for those who shade douts on the truth of islam .the proof of the miracles of the Holy book Of QURAAN have been confessed even by the non muslim scientists . the sophisticated description of some of the biologoical and natural process that was described by the Holybook some 14 centuries ago has left the scientist quite fascinated and declare that QURAAN is divine message
to know about this here is useful like www.islamguide.com

Hello,
I appreciate the link although I did not find the reference page on embryology a compelling proof.
Thanks.

 

[alcurad]

^teachings first, miracles later.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

yes he converted

look here:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ9L-WRyUU8

Any other evidence?

 

[Whatsthepoint]

I don't see the point in replying to these questions when a quick search would reveal the answers.

All I can say to you guys is this...... :rollseyes

A quick search will only reveal that there is no reliable data as to whether Moore and Bucaille actually converted.

 

[tarek samy]

i see that you dont need further evidence .actually i think no one convincible does .all what you are about is raising suspecions .arguement is pointless can you see the sun?(i dout)

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

Maurice Bucaille did.


Here you go.
http://www.islamicbulletin.org/newsletters/issue_6/embraced.aspx


Interesting to note his reasons for not openly professing his belife. THis is most proabably the same case with Moore. THey dont want their reputation to be lost.

What a shame they feel they can't profess their belief openly (if they have indeed converted). Bucaille is slightly cagey about it even in the interview, although he may well have converted - good for him.

I think it's worth saying that Bucaille is certainly far more famous for his comments about Islam than for his scientific career. However, he's a scientist who appears to have converted to Islam, and that's fair enough.

As for Keith Moore, it's much less clear that he has converted to Islam. Tarek samy has posted a youtube video which simply asserts that he has, with no supporting evidence at all. If you find that convincing, you may need to check your critical faculties.

I don't see the point in replying to these questions when a quick search would reveal the answers.

You are, of course, under no obligation to answer them. As wtp has said, it's difficult to find clear, unambiguous evidence one way or the other, although the Bucaille interview that's come to light in this thread may go some way to clearing that up. I'm grateful to AKK for providing it.

Peace

 

[AntiKarateKid]

Has anyone ever thought, after reading that Bucaille link I gave, that the scientists arent going around shoiting that htey are Muslim because they feel that, like Bucaile said, their works would be views as biased and unreliable afterwards.

They may be Muslims at heart but not Muslims by appearance.

 

[tarek samy]

Greetings,


What a shame they feel they can't profess their belief openly (if they have indeed converted). Bucaille is slightly cagey about it even in the interview, although he may well have converted - good for him.

I think it's worth saying that Bucaille is certainly far more famous for his comments about Islam than for his scientific career. However, he's a scientist who appears to have converted to Islam, and that's fair enough.

As for Keith Moore, it's much less clear that he has converted to Islam. Tarek samy has posted a youtube video which simply asserts that he has, with no supporting evidence at all. If you find that convincing, you may need to check your critical faculties.



You are, of course, under no obligation to answer them. As wtp has said, it's difficult to find clear, unambiguous evidence one way or the other, although the Bucaille interview that's come to light in this thread may go some way to clearing that up. I'm grateful to AKK for providing it.

Peace

if you think that description of embryogenesis in QURAAN was haphazard then youb aree the one who needs to revise critical faculuties .
when the ovum is fertilized it turns to oocyte and then to gametocytewhich then is stuck in the wall of uterus QURAAN described this position as (alaka)the litereral translation is hanging .for the past centuries it was thought taht the gametocyte is inside the uterine cavity and not attached to the wall how could QURAAN describe this position is not this miraculous ? what is the absolute evidence for you to see anatomy book coming from heavens ?

 

[Gator]

Hi since we're doing this, here are the usual disputations against the embryology proof of the quran. Rather than wasting time doing 5,000 responses back and forth.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/denis_giron/islamsci.html

We've done this alot and we could go round and round, but your link and this link should be a good summary in the pro's and con's of the argument.

There's also more comprehensive sites but you can't link to them.

Thanks.

 

[tarek samy]

i see this is complete rididculous how can you compare the openioin of specialized scientist to one person only who talks about all aspects ,embryology origin of universe with no references this is not comparable to the links we posted before it is a matter of just reaction no known scientists has said such things .

 

[Hamayun]

One thing I find amazing and remarkable Subhan Allah!!!

How dearly our Muslim brothers hold on to their faith. How firm they are in their beliefs. How much conviction they have. It really is amazing.

Subhan Allah! For some people no proof is necessary... but then what is proof?

What is rational today will be irrational tomorrow but it will not affect Muslims. We do not have the capability to understand anything outside our logic which depends on the social conditioning of the country we live in.

[3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed. ​

[17:82] We send down in the Quran healing and mercy for the believers. At the same time, it only increases the wickedness of the transgressors. ​

[56:79] None can grasp it (Quran) except the sincere. ​

 

[aamirsaab]

Hi since we're doing this, here are the usual disputations against the embryology proof of the quran. Rather than wasting time doing 5,000 responses back and forth.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/denis_giron/islamsci.html

We've done this alot and we could go round and round, but your link and this link should be a good summary in the pro's and con's of the argument.

There's also more comprehensive sites but you can't link to them.

Thanks.

You do know that link has bias written ALL OVER IT? I'm all for discussion on this topic, but come on, infidels.org? I admit I didn't read all of that page. I gave it a skim read and found it to be in the same vain as certain cherry pickers off youtube complete with their knowledge about Islamic theology (which is less than my 11 year old brother's!).

Gonna have to use a more reliable source than that, hermano.

 

[AntiKarateKid]

You do know that link has bias written ALL OVER IT? I'm all for discussion on this topic, but come on, infidels.org? I admit I didn't read all of that page. I gave it a skim read and found it to be in the same vain as certain cherry pickers off youtube complete with their knowledge about Islamic theology (which is less than my 11 year old brother's!).

Gonna have to use a more reliable source than that, hermano.

Well said.

 

[Trumble]

You do know that link has bias written ALL OVER IT?

Of course it does. As does every link posted that takes the opposite point of view... which I note you don't comment on.

Has anyone ever thought, after reading that Bucaille link I gave, that the scientists arent going around shoiting that htey are Muslim because they feel that, like Bucaile said, their works would be views as biased and unreliable afterwards.

No. As competent scientists their work will either stand up to peer review and critical analysis on it's own merits or it won't. Scientific papers are not opinion pieces.

They may be Muslims at heart but not Muslims by appearance.

I see no reason to hide any conversion/reversion to Islam, particularly after having made some of the comments attributed to them; the suggestion simply makes no sense. It's far more likely that, as the old saying goes, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it is a duck. Other than perhaps Bucaille these alleged conversions just never happened.