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north_malaysian said:
It's now:

1) Israel (45.3% - 426,000 votes)
2) Palestine (54.7% - 515,000 votes)

Voters Supporting Palestine (more than 1,000 votes)

Saudi Arabia (50,000)
Egypt (48,000)
Jordan (48,000)
USA (38,000)
UAE (35,000)
Morocco (23,000)
Pakistan (21,000)
Netherlands (18,000)
UK (18,000)
Canada (15,000)
Belgium (14,000)
France (13,000)
Malaysia (13,000)
Palestine (13,000)
Qatar (11,000)
Tunisia (10,000)
Kuwait (9,000)
Germany (7,000)
Algeria (7,000)
Israel (6,000)
Turkey (6,000)
Australia (5,000)
Bahrain (5,000)
Indonesia (5,000)
Iran (5,000)
Lebanon (5,000)
Russia (4,000)
India (3,000)
Libya (3,000)
Sweden (3,000)
Denmark (2,000)
Maldives (2,000)
Oman (2,000)
Spain (2,000)
Sri Lanka (2,000)
Ukraine (2,000)
Yemen (2,000)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1,000)
Greece (1,000)
Italy (1,000)
Norway (1,000)
South Africa (1,000)
Switzerland (1,000)

Voters Supporting Israel (more than 1,000 votes)

USA (166,000)
Israel (146,000)
Canada (27,000)
UK (8,000)
Russia (7,000)
Australia (6,000)
Germany (6,000)
Mexico (4,000)
Brazil (3,000)
France (3,000)
South Africa (3,000)
Ukraine (3,000)
Argentina (2,000)
Netherlands (2,000)
Belgium (1,000)
Italy (1,000)
Spain (1,000)
Switzerland (1,000)
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Amazing stats. Notice that the UK has 18,000 votes in support of Palestine and only 8,000 in support of Israel. The US is completely lopsided in the other direction and yet the UK and US are allies. Interesting..........
 
voted.

good to know most countries are supporting Palestine
 
KelleyD said:
The US is completely lopsided in the other direction and yet the UK and US are allies. Interesting..........
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But there are 38,000 people from USA support Palestine... 20,000 more votes than UK...

and surprisingly 6,000 people from Israel voted for Palestine
 
It's now:

1) Israel (44.8% - 441,000 votes)
2) Palestine (55.2% - 543,000 votes)

Voters Supporting Palestine

Saudi Arabia (52,000)
Egypt (51,000)
Jordan (50,000)
USA (40,000)
UAE (37,000)
Morocco (25,000)
Pakistan (22,000)
Netherlands (19,000)
UK (19,000)
Canada (16,000)
Belgium (15,000)
France (15,000)
Malaysia (14,000)
Palestine (13,000)
Qatar (11,000)
Tunisia (10,000)
Kuwait (9,000)
Germany (8,000)
Algeria (7,000)
Israel (7,000)
Australia (6,000)
Indonesia (6,000)
Iran (6,000)
Turkey (6,000)
Bahrain (5,000)
Lebanon (5,000)
Russia (4,000)
India (3,000)
Libya (3,000)
Sweden (3,000)
Denmark (2,000)
Maldives (2,000)
Oman (2,000)
Spain (2,000)
Sri Lanka (2,000)
Ukraine (2,000)
Yemen (2,000)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1,000)
Greece (1,000)
Italy (1,000)
Norway (1,000)
South Africa (1,000)
Switzerland (1,000)
Japan (940)
Bangladesh (851)
Ireland (756)
Austria (747)
Singapore (701)
Nigeria (572)
Romania (552)
Finland (522)
New Zealand (488)
Mauritius (475)
Kazakhstan (454)
Azerbaijan (451)
Sudan (410)
China (402)
Czech Republic (402)
Poland (391)
Brazil (368)
Bulgaria (365)
Serbia (358)
Chile (312)
North Korea (298)
Macedonia (285)
Argentina (277)
Mexico (277)
Luxembourg (257)
Syria (255)
Taiwan (241)
Brunei (234)
Croatia (232)
Venezuela (232)
Hong Kong (226)
Belarus (211)
Hungary (198)
Kenya (198)
Cyprus (183)
Slovenia (164)
Ivory Coast (154)
Lithuania (154)
Colombia (151)
Thailand (148)
Philippines (140)
Estonia (132)
Iraq (131)
Portugal (130)
Mauritania (129)
Afghanistan (104)
Senegal (86)
Latvia (85)
Puerto Rico (82)
Uzbekistan (79)
Slovakia (76)
Moldova (74)
Ethiopia (68)
Ghana (68)
Iceland (67)
Peru (62)
Panama (58)
Tanzania (56)
Albania (55)
Madagascar (53)
Kyrgyzstan (51)
Malta (49)
Georgia (47)
Guatemala (45)
Uruguay (44)
Montenegro (36)
Mozambique (34)
Nicaragua (31)
Vietnam (31)
Tajikistan (29)
Paraguay (28)
Costa Rica (27)
Djibouti (27)
Botswana (25)
Bolivia (22)
Monaco (22)
Trinidad and Tobago (22)
Uganda (21)
Netherlands Antilles (20)
Armenia (19)
Gabon (19)
Burkina Faso (18)
Jamaica (18)
Cambodia (16)
Ecuador (16)
Liberia (16)
Angola (14)
Mali (14)
Namibia (12)
Niger (11)
Dominican Republic (10)
El Salvador (10)
Gambia (9)
Myanmar (9)
Democratic Republic of Congo (8)
Nepal (8)
Benin (7)
Fiji (7)
Zambia (7)
Haiti (6)
Equatorial Guinea (5)
Honduras (5)
Somalia (5)
Togo (5)
Zimbabwe (5)
Malawi (4)
Mongolia (4)
Saint Kitts and Nevis (4)
Bermuda (3)
Cayman Islands (3)
Gibraltar (3)
Grenada (3)
Liechtenstein (3)
Antigua and Barbuda (2)
Chad (2)
Guam (2)
Guyana (2)
US Virgin Islands (2)
Barbados (1)
Central African Republic (1)
French Polynesia (1)
Sierra Leone (1)
Anguilla (0)
Aruba (0)
Bahamas (0)
Belize (0)
British Indian Ocean Territory (0)
British Virgin Islands (0)
Burundi (0)
Cameroon (0)
Dominica (0)
Faeroe Islands (0)
Laos (0)
Lesotho (0)
Macau (0)
Saint Lucia (0)
Saint Pierre and Miquelon (0)
Suriname (0)
Turks and Caicos Islands (0)

Voters Supporting Israel

USA (170,000)
Israel (153,000)
Canada (27,000)
UK (8,000)
Russia (7,000)
Australia (6,000)
Germany (6,000)
Mexico (4,000)
Brazil (3,000)
France (3,000)
Netherlands (3,000)
South Africa (3,000)
Ukraine (3,000)
Argentina (2,000)
Belgium (2,000)
Italy (1,000)
Spain (1,000)
Switzerland (1,000)
LAtvia (821)
Venezuela (811)
Sweden (804)
Uruguay (766)
Turkey (714)
Chile (711)
Colombia (549)
Belarus (538)
Costa Rica (529)
Austria (517)
India (514)
Romania (454)
Hong Kong (425)
Lithuania (407)
Iran (401)
Peru (391)
Egypt (384)
Czech Republic (377)
Kazakhstan (368)
Poland (368)
Norway (362)
Jordan (355)
Denmark (344)
Finland (326)
Panama (321)
Georgia (315)
Saudi Arabia (297)
UAE (294)
New Zealand (293)
Thailand (254)
Guatemala (250)
Singapore (235)
Estonia (227)
Moldova (223)
Pakistan (219)
Malaysia (215)
Indonesia (210)
Greece (203)
Bulgaria (198)
Portugal (196)
Morocco (193)
Japan (179)
Azerbaijan (177)
China (171)
Uzbekistan (160)
Ireland (145)
Philippines (138)
Puerto Rico (129)
Kuwait (118)
Croatia (117)
Serbia (113)
Luxembourg (110)
Ecuador (98)
Qatar (91)
Slovakia (84)
Palestine (83)
Gibraltar (79)
North Korea (77)
Bolivia (76)
Lebanon (76)
Cyprus (71)
Taiwan (66)
El Salvador (61)
Slovenia (50)
Vietnam (50)
Nigeria (49)
Bahrain (44)
Dominican Republic (41)
Algeria (40)
Bahamas (40)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (39)
Malta (36)
Sri Lanka (35)
Netherlands Antilles (33)
Barbados (32)
Honduras (29)
Nicaragua (28)
Paraguay (28)
Aruba (26)
Tunisia (26)
Kenya (25)
Iceland (24)
Kyrgyzstan (18)
Mauritius (18)
Jamaica (17)
US Virgin Islands (17)
Ghana (16)
Monaco (16)
Bangladesh (15)
Armenia (14)
Ivory Coast (14)
Antigua and Barbuda (13)
Iraq (13)
Yemen (13)
Namibia (11)
Cayman Islands (10)
Macedonia (10)
Oman (10)
Anguilla (9)
Equatorial Guinea (8)
Fiji (8)
Libya (8)
Senegal (8)
Tanzania (8)
Botswana (7)
Madagascar (7)
Belize (6)
Ethiopia (6)
Faeroe Islands (5)
Montenegro (5)
Nepal (5)
Turks and Caicos Islands (5)
Uganda (5)
Democratic Republic of Congo (4)
Guam (4)
Guyana (4)
Macau (4)
Angola (3)
Brunei (3)
Dominica (3)
Laos (3)
Trinidad and Tobago (3)
British Virgin Islands (2)
Cameroon (2)
Mozambique (2)
Saint Lucia (2)
Togo (2)
Zimbabwe (2)
British Indian Ocean Territory (1)
Burkina Faso (1)
Burundi (1)
Gabon (1)
Lesotho (1)
Mali (1)
Saint Pierre and Miquelon (1)
Suriname (1)
Tajikistan (1)
Afghanistan (0)
Albania (0)
Benin (0)
Bermuda (0)
Cambodia (0)
Central African Republic (0)
Chad (0)
Djibouti (0)
French Polynesia (0)
Grenada (0)
Haiti (0)
Liberia (0)
Liechtenstein (0)
Malawi (0)
Maldives (0)
Mauritania (0)
Mongolia (0)
Myanmar (0)
Niger (0)
Saint Kitts and Nevis (0)
Sierra Leone (0)
Somalia (0)
Sudan (0)
Syria (0)
Zambia (0)
 
Until yesterday (15.01.2009), I was still supporting two states solution (in accordance to pre-1967 war border). But today I'm thinking to change my view.... Palestinians deserve their homeland from the river to the sea...
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What made you change your mind?
 
So if it turns out that majority of people will vote that Israel didnt have right to attack Gaza, what happens then...?
 
Aaron85 said:
So if it turns out that majority of people will vote that Israel didnt have right to attack Gaza, what happens then...?
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Nothing as far as Israel is concerned. But I wouldn't call it nothing, at least Israel would know mass opinion is going against their actions. And there is hadith tell us to do everything we can even if it is just voicing opinion.
 
north_malaysian said:
But there are 38,000 people from USA support Palestine... 20,000 more votes than UK...

and surprisingly 6,000 people from Israel voted for Palestine
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What I meant by lopsided in the other direction is that the US only has 40,000 votes for the Philistines and 170,000 for Israel. The US government is an ally of the UK and the UK has far more votes for the Philistines that Israel. How is it that both governments are supposed to be in agreement with each other on policy in the Middle East when the people of those in power are largely against what their governements stand for. The governement say one thing....the people say another. In a democracy, the government are supposed to represent the people but when push comes to shove here in the very near future, after President Obama's inaguration, the US will be forced to make a stand along with the UK--and especially if the violence escalates, which I anticipate it will do--and how is it that the President and Prime Minister of two allied countries will defend Israel when the people are voting for Palestine? Countries divided against themselves will not stand for long.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
What made you change your mind?
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When Mahmud Abbas said about how Palestine would achieve independent if there are Israeli settlers in Hebron, which is a Palestinian town.... it really struck to my mind like... yeah.. if Israel is so serious to give Palestinian a state why there are israeli settlements dotting all over the places inside the West Bank... what would happen to the Israeli district of Judea and Samaria?

What kind of a state Palestine would be.. as it still would be controlled by the Israel.. inside its territory ... and for sure Israel would still control Jordan River....

Israel is not so serious about giving a total independence to the Palestinians... so why bother to dream about two states solution...

sorry....
 
KelleyD said:
What I meant by lopsided in the other direction is that the US only has 40,000 votes for the Philistines and 170,000 for Israel. The US government is an ally of the UK and the UK has far more votes for the Philistines that Israel. How is it that both governments are supposed to be in agreement with each other on policy in the Middle East when the people of those in power are largely against what their governements stand for. The governement say one thing....the people say another. In a democracy, the government are supposed to represent the people but when push comes to shove here in the very near future, after President Obama's inaguration, the US will be forced to make a stand along with the UK--and especially if the violence escalates, which I anticipate it will do--and how is it that the President and Prime Minister of two allied countries will defend Israel when the people are voting for Palestine? Countries divided against themselves will not stand for long.
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ok.. I understand your explanation...:D
 
north_malaysian said:
It's now:

1) Israel (44.8% - 441,000 votes)
2) Palestine (55.2% - 543,000 votes)

Voters Supporting Palestine

Saudi Arabia (52,000)
Egypt (51,000)
Jordan (50,000)
USA (40,000)
UAE (37,000)
Morocco (25,000)
Pakistan (22,000)
Netherlands (19,000)
UK (19,000)
Canada (16,000)
Belgium (15,000)
France (15,000)
Malaysia (14,000)
Palestine (13,000)
Qatar (11,000)
Tunisia (10,000)
Kuwait (9,000)
Germany (8,000)
Algeria (7,000)
Israel (7,000)
Australia (6,000)
Indonesia (6,000)
Iran (6,000)
Turkey (6,000)
Bahrain (5,000)
Lebanon (5,000)
Russia (4,000)
India (3,000)
Libya (3,000)
Sweden (3,000)
Denmark (2,000)
Maldives (2,000)
Oman (2,000)
Spain (2,000)
Sri Lanka (2,000)
Ukraine (2,000)
Yemen (2,000)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1,000)
Greece (1,000)
Italy (1,000)
Norway (1,000)
South Africa (1,000)
Switzerland (1,000)
Japan (940)
Bangladesh (851)
Ireland (756)
Austria (747)
Singapore (701)
Nigeria (572)
Romania (552)
Finland (522)
New Zealand (488)
Mauritius (475)
Kazakhstan (454)
Azerbaijan (451)
Sudan (410)
China (402)
Czech Republic (402)
Poland (391)
Brazil (368)
Bulgaria (365)
Serbia (358)
Chile (312)
North Korea (298)
Macedonia (285)
Argentina (277)
Mexico (277)
Luxembourg (257)
Syria (255)
Taiwan (241)
Brunei (234)
Croatia (232)
Venezuela (232)
Hong Kong (226)
Belarus (211)
Hungary (198)
Kenya (198)
Cyprus (183)
Slovenia (164)
Ivory Coast (154)
Lithuania (154)
Colombia (151)
Thailand (148)
Philippines (140)
Estonia (132)
Iraq (131)
Portugal (130)
Mauritania (129)
Afghanistan (104)
Senegal (86)
Latvia (85)
Puerto Rico (82)
Uzbekistan (79)
Slovakia (76)
Moldova (74)
Ethiopia (68)
Ghana (68)
Iceland (67)
Peru (62)
Panama (58)
Tanzania (56)
Albania (55)
Madagascar (53)
Kyrgyzstan (51)
Malta (49)
Georgia (47)
Guatemala (45)
Uruguay (44)
Montenegro (36)
Mozambique (34)
Nicaragua (31)
Vietnam (31)
Tajikistan (29)
Paraguay (28)
Costa Rica (27)
Djibouti (27)
Botswana (25)
Bolivia (22)
Monaco (22)
Trinidad and Tobago (22)
Uganda (21)
Netherlands Antilles (20)
Armenia (19)
Gabon (19)
Burkina Faso (18)
Jamaica (18)
Cambodia (16)
Ecuador (16)
Liberia (16)
Angola (14)
Mali (14)
Namibia (12)
Niger (11)
Dominican Republic (10)
El Salvador (10)
Gambia (9)
Myanmar (9)
Democratic Republic of Congo (8)
Nepal (8)
Benin (7)
Fiji (7)
Zambia (7)
Haiti (6)
Equatorial Guinea (5)
Honduras (5)
Somalia (5)
Togo (5)
Zimbabwe (5)
Malawi (4)
Mongolia (4)
Saint Kitts and Nevis (4)
Bermuda (3)
Cayman Islands (3)
Gibraltar (3)
Grenada (3)
Liechtenstein (3)
Antigua and Barbuda (2)
Chad (2)
Guam (2)
Guyana (2)
US Virgin Islands (2)
Barbados (1)
Central African Republic (1)
French Polynesia (1)
Sierra Leone (1)
Anguilla (0)
Aruba (0)
Bahamas (0)
Belize (0)
British Indian Ocean Territory (0)
British Virgin Islands (0)
Burundi (0)
Cameroon (0)
Dominica (0)
Faeroe Islands (0)
Laos (0)
Lesotho (0)
Macau (0)
Saint Lucia (0)
Saint Pierre and Miquelon (0)
Suriname (0)
Turks and Caicos Islands (0)

Voters Supporting Israel

USA (170,000)
Israel (153,000)
Canada (27,000)
UK (8,000)
Russia (7,000)
Australia (6,000)
Germany (6,000)
Mexico (4,000)
Brazil (3,000)
France (3,000)
Netherlands (3,000)
South Africa (3,000)
Ukraine (3,000)
Argentina (2,000)
Belgium (2,000)
Italy (1,000)
Spain (1,000)
Switzerland (1,000)
LAtvia (821)
Venezuela (811)
Sweden (804)
Uruguay (766)
Turkey (714)
Chile (711)
Colombia (549)
Belarus (538)
Costa Rica (529)
Austria (517)
India (514)
Romania (454)
Hong Kong (425)
Lithuania (407)
Iran (401)
Peru (391)
Egypt (384)
Czech Republic (377)
Kazakhstan (368)
Poland (368)
Norway (362)
Jordan (355)
Denmark (344)
Finland (326)
Panama (321)
Georgia (315)
Saudi Arabia (297)
UAE (294)
New Zealand (293)
Thailand (254)
Guatemala (250)
Singapore (235)
Estonia (227)
Moldova (223)
Pakistan (219)
Malaysia (215)
Indonesia (210)
Greece (203)
Bulgaria (198)
Portugal (196)
Morocco (193)
Japan (179)
Azerbaijan (177)
China (171)
Uzbekistan (160)
Ireland (145)
Philippines (138)
Puerto Rico (129)
Kuwait (118)
Croatia (117)
Serbia (113)
Luxembourg (110)
Ecuador (98)
Qatar (91)
Slovakia (84)
Palestine (83)
Gibraltar (79)
North Korea (77)
Bolivia (76)
Lebanon (76)
Cyprus (71)
Taiwan (66)
El Salvador (61)
Slovenia (50)
Vietnam (50)
Nigeria (49)
Bahrain (44)
Dominican Republic (41)
Algeria (40)
Bahamas (40)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (39)
Malta (36)
Sri Lanka (35)
Netherlands Antilles (33)
Barbados (32)
Honduras (29)
Nicaragua (28)
Paraguay (28)
Aruba (26)
Tunisia (26)
Kenya (25)
Iceland (24)
Kyrgyzstan (18)
Mauritius (18)
Jamaica (17)
US Virgin Islands (17)
Ghana (16)
Monaco (16)
Bangladesh (15)
Armenia (14)
Ivory Coast (14)
Antigua and Barbuda (13)
Iraq (13)
Yemen (13)
Namibia (11)
Cayman Islands (10)
Macedonia (10)
Oman (10)
Anguilla (9)
Equatorial Guinea (8)
Fiji (8)
Libya (8)
Senegal (8)
Tanzania (8)
Botswana (7)
Madagascar (7)
Belize (6)
Ethiopia (6)
Faeroe Islands (5)
Montenegro (5)
Nepal (5)
Turks and Caicos Islands (5)
Uganda (5)
Democratic Republic of Congo (4)
Guam (4)
Guyana (4)
Macau (4)
Angola (3)
Brunei (3)
Dominica (3)
Laos (3)
Trinidad and Tobago (3)
British Virgin Islands (2)
Cameroon (2)
Mozambique (2)
Saint Lucia (2)
Togo (2)
Zimbabwe (2)
British Indian Ocean Territory (1)
Burkina Faso (1)
Burundi (1)
Gabon (1)
Lesotho (1)
Mali (1)
Saint Pierre and Miquelon (1)
Suriname (1)
Tajikistan (1)
Afghanistan (0)
Albania (0)
Benin (0)
Bermuda (0)
Cambodia (0)
Central African Republic (0)
Chad (0)
Djibouti (0)
French Polynesia (0)
Grenada (0)
Haiti (0)
Liberia (0)
Liechtenstein (0)
Malawi (0)
Maldives (0)
Mauritania (0)
Mongolia (0)
Myanmar (0)
Niger (0)
Saint Kitts and Nevis (0)
Sierra Leone (0)
Somalia (0)
Sudan (0)
Syria (0)
Zambia (0)
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Netherlands 19,000! :thumbs_up
 
Now
Israel: 43.7%
Palestine: 56.3%

Of course, voted for Palestine. :statisfie
 
north_malaysian said:
When Mahmud Abbas said about how Palestine would achieve independent if there are Israeli settlers in Hebron, which is a Palestinian town.... it really struck to my mind like... yeah.. if Israel is so serious to give Palestinian a state why there are israeli settlements dotting all over the places inside the West Bank... what would happen to the Israeli district of Judea and Samaria?

What kind of a state Palestine would be.. as it still would be controlled by the Israel.. inside its territory ... and for sure Israel would still control Jordan River....

Israel is not so serious about giving a total independence to the Palestinians... so why bother to dream about two states solution...

sorry....
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Settlers would of course have to be evicted.
I don't think this is gonna be the main issue if it ever comes to viable two state negotiations again. Israel had already offered to resettle all of its people from the West Bank.
I think the main issues will be military and security related.
 
I didnt vote, because it is meaningless, just like playing World of Worldcraft in net. But if I did, I would also vote for the Israel.
 

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