US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran

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NobleMuslimUK said:
In pursuit of these interests, criminal and corrupt activities are a tool, and thats ok with you as long as the US benefits!
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When did I say that criminal activities is okay? I never said such a statement. What I did say was that the whole world acts like this, including the Muslim one. I never endorsed these actions nor did I say they were correct.
 
NobleMuslimUK said:
In pursuit of these interests, criminal and corrupt activities are a tool, and thats ok with you as long as the US benefits!
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In pursuit of these interests, criminal and corrupt activities are a tool, and thats ok with you as long as the Muslim Countries benefit?
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but you DONT support the illegal military actions of US and Israel, also the muslim countries leaders are all puppets to US, the ones that refused have been invaded. Lets stop suger coating the truth, muslims are suffering in their own countries due to intervention by US. This doesnt mean Americans arent totally responsible for their democratic governments actions. Muslims countries are under dictatorships loyal to US and Israel, so they have limited freedom to start off with.
 
NobleMuslimUK said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but you DONT support the illegal military actions of US and Israel, also the muslim countries leaders are all puppets to US, the ones that refused have been invaded. Lets stop suger coating the truth, muslims are suffering in their own countries due to intervention by US. This doesnt mean Americans arent totally responsible for their democratic governments actions. Muslims countries are under dictatorships loyal to US and Israel, so they have limited freedom to start off with.
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Well some correct.
you DONT support the illegal military actions of US and Israel
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But thats about it.
also the muslim countries leaders are all puppets to US, the ones that refused have been invaded.
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I think not.
muslims are suffering in their own countries due to intervention by US.
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And some suffer because of there own governments.
Muslims countries are under dictatorships loyal to US and Israel
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That a joke.
 
Bush helped the Iraqi Shiites to topple Sunni Saddam, maybe they should help the Iranian Sunnis to topple Shiite Ahmadinejad.....:skeleton:
 
north_malaysian said:
Bush helped the Iraqi Shiites to topple Sunni Saddam, maybe they should help the Iranian Sunnis to topple Shiite Ahmadinejad.....:skeleton:
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Like how they (the US) funded & trained Osama bin Laden to fight against the Soviets. When Osama bit them back they blamed the Muslim world for producing terrorists.
 
The U.S. is also supporting pro-democracy elements inside Iran. That would have been a better strategy in Iraq, but unfortunately the Iraqi dissidents the Bush administration put their faith in were full of elephant manure. Which of course became obviously apparent fairly quickly.

I think the success that the U.S. had working with the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan has put more emphasis on making parterships, no matter how insignificant, as a way to get intelligence and sew discord with the government in question. This strategy seems to be working somewhat, as there are reports of trouble inside the Iranian government. It seems the conservative and moderate factions in Iranian politics are splitting at the moment.

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav021506a.shtml
 
Keltoi said:
The U.S. is also supporting pro-democracy elements inside Iran. That would have been a better strategy in Iraq, but unfortunately the Iraqi dissidents the Bush administration put their faith in were full of elephant manure. Which of course became obviously apparent fairly quickly.

I think the success that the U.S. had working with the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan has put more emphasis on making parterships, no matter how insignificant, as a way to get intelligence and sew discord with the government in question. This strategy seems to be working somewhat, as there are reports of trouble inside the Iranian government. It seems the conservative and moderate factions in Iranian politics are splitting at the moment.

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav021506a.shtml
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I am really wary of the democratic elements you speak of inside Afghanistan and Iraq, the first thing the US does is introduce copyright laws inside a country they invade. So far the results have shown that torture, rape, mugging, drugs trade etc has increased inside Afghanistan after the Taliban, also in Iraq, more violence and a lot of the same thats happening in Afghanistan. The people are clearly suffering here, so much so that the troops sent to these countries arent even given the courtesy of basics such as clean hygienic water etc... I dont know why you dont raise the question as to what the real purpose of these illegal wars is, or is that forbidden. Its clearly of no benefit to the Americans and to us here in Britain, the two main countries involved. :)
 
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I think that the population should quit listening to the big corporation owned news stations, and get the facts, that is reallity...
 
Muslim Knight said:
Like how they (the US) funded & trained Osama bin Laden to fight against the Soviets. When Osama bit them back they blamed the Muslim world for producing terrorists.
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Bah....that is purely mythical. OBL had his own agenda during the Soviet era in Afghanistan which was occaisionally alligned with Afghan forces supported by the US.

Your claim of funding and training is preposterous.
 
Cognescenti said:
Bah....that is purely mythical. OBL had his own agenda during the Soviet era in Afghanistan which was occaisionally alligned with Afghan forces supported by the US.

Your claim of funding and training is preposterous.
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The connection between OBL and the CIA has definitely been sensationalized. The U.S. was aiding the Afghan resistance, which included foreigners like OBL on occasion. However, the U.S. was concerned with aiding the Afghans fend off the Soviets, not specifically giving anything to OBL.
 
The connection between OBL and the CIA has definitely been sensationalized. The U.S. was aiding the Afghan resistance, which included foreigners like OBL on occasion. However, the U.S. was concerned with aiding the Afghans fend off the Soviets, not specifically giving anything to OBL.
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true ,but the Afghan resistance wasn't led by a proper military but by militant groups.
 
#1) While we haven’t won in Iraq (ie we haven’t stabilized the country), we are not losing (which would mean that our very presence in Iraq was untenable and logic would dictate a tactical withdrawal).

#2) I would not be surprised if the US was helping along resistance groups within Iran. These kinds of tactics reach back hundreds of years. But do not be confused, the growing middle class in Iran does not support the Revolution, the very poor who do support the Revolution do not support its funding of Hezbollah or Hamas and Iran is only 60% Farsi and treats its racial and religious minorities very badly, including but not limited to its Zoroastrians, its Arabs (Sunni or Shia), its Jews, it’s Bahe, it’s Druze etc. Iran is not a stable country and the so-called bloggers revolution is just a symptom of the general unrest within.
 
Akil said:
#1) While we haven’t won in Iraq (ie we haven’t stabilized the country), we are not losing (which would mean that our very presence in Iraq was untenable and logic would dictate a tactical withdrawal).

#2) I would not be surprised if the US was helping along resistance groups within Iran. These kinds of tactics reach back hundreds of years. But do not be confused, the growing middle class in Iran does not support the Revolution, the very poor who do support the Revolution do not support its funding of Hezbollah or Hamas and Iran is only 60% Farsi and treats its racial and religious minorities very badly, including but not limited to its Zoroastrians, its Arabs (Sunni or Shia), its Jews, it’s Bahe, it’s Druze etc. Iran is not a stable country and the so-called bloggers revolution is just a symptom of the general unrest within.
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The mad fool with his trigger on the button wants any excuse to push that button. You think general unrest within Iran is reason enough to introduce a US led dictatorship which should make things better?
We want US gone from muslim countries, the sooner the better. Good riddance.
 
The mad fool with his trigger on the button wants any excuse to push that button.
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Are you trying to insinuate that the US would use a nuke on some part of the middle east? Cause that’s retarded. It would never happen; the US would never do it unless it was responding to a major nuclear, biological or chemical attack and then mutually assured destruction is likely to rear its ugly head.


You think general unrest within Iran is reason enough to introduce a US led dictatorship which should make things better?
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Bah we tried that once (think the Shah of Iran), didn’t fly. The US doesn’t seem to be creating dictators like we used to either.


We want US gone from muslim countries, the sooner the better. Good riddance.
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Don’t you watch TV? We want to be gone from Muslim countries too! But at the moment there is a huge power vacuum that we created in Iraq and we have a responsibility to support the constituted Iraqi government until such a time as it can stand on its own two feet.

Riddle me this, when the US does intervene somewhere you want to know why! And when the US doesn’t intervene in a global crisis everyone wants to know why not! LOL ****ed if we do, ****ed if we don’t.
 

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