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The apostles fulfilled their calling and mission despite their human weakness!
They haven't concerning your religion is more akin to Paganism than anything monotheistic and completely at odds with the faith of Abraham!
GOD(YAHWEH) had already planned out the change of 'covenant' before the creation and fall in to sin of mankind!
A God that changes his mind is an ineffectual god, a lesser god!
You are talking gibberish!
I do see the matter of facts in your religion to be utter gibberish.. don't you want to justify why god would have a woman lover and a mother at the same time?
Yahweh is the personal name of God in the Hebrew Bible.
THE "TETRAGRAMMATON"
Why not for a change ask him, a question or two. Ask him where he got the word Jehovah from? He will surely reply - "From the Holy Bible." What does it say? Does it spell out the word J-e-h-o-v-a-h? "No," he will reply. "There is a 'tetragrammaton' in the Bible from which the word Jehovah is derived." What is a tetragrammaton? No one seems to have heard this highly mystical term. In the University of Illinois in the U.S.A. I asked a gathering of students and lecturers whether any one had heard this jaw-breaker! Not one of them knew its meaning! But every Jehovah's Witness seems to know, even the commonest of them. They have really specialised - ours is a world of specialisation. They are Professors of the one word - Jehovah.
What then is a "tetragrammaton!" The Jehovah's Witness replies, "Y H W Hi!"
"No!" "What I want to know from you is, what does the word tetragrammaton mean?" You will find him most reluctant in explaining. Either he does not really know, or he is feeling embarrassed in replying. "Tetra," in Greek means FOUR, and "grammaton," means LETTERS. It simply means "a four letter word."

Can you read into Y H W H the word Jehovah? I cannot. "No!", says the Jehovah's Witness, "we ought to add vowels to these four consonents to produce the sound. Originally, both Hebrew and Arabic were written without the vowel signs The native of each language was able to read if even without those vowels. Not so the outsider, for whose benefit the vowels were invented.
CHAPTER THREE - WHO IS JEHOVAH? (What is His Name - by Ahmed Deedat)[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]COMMON ORIGIN[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]What is YHWH; and what is ELOHIM? Since the lews did not articulate the word YHWH for centuries, and since even the Chief Rabbis would not allow the ineffable to be heard, they have forfeited the right to claim dogmatically how the word is to be sounded. We have to seek the aid of the Arab to revive Hebrew, a language which had once died out. In every linguistic difficulty recourse has to be made to Arabic, a sister language, which has remained alive and viable. Racially and linguistically, the Arabs and the Jews have a common origin, going back to Father Abraham.[FONT=Garamond, times new roman]1 [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Note the startling resemblance between the languages, very often the same sounding words carry identical meaning in both.[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]HEBREW[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]ARABIC[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]ENGLISH[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Elah[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Ilah[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]god[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Ikhud[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Ahud[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]one[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Yaum [/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Yaum[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]day[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Shaloam[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Salaam[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]peace[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Yahuwa[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Ya Huwa[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]oh he[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][/FONT]​
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]YHWH or Yehova or Yahuwa all mean the very same thing. "Ya" is a vocative and an exclamatory particle in both Hebrew and Arabic, meaning Oh! And "Huwa" or "Hu" means He, again in both Hebrew and Arabic. Together they mean Oh He! So instead of YHWH ELOHIM, we now have Oh He! ELOHIM.[/FONT]
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By the way, did your middle eastern god speak English?


Incarnation is NOT reincarnation!
The true GOD(YAHWEH) is not 1 dimensional! Is not limited by human imgaination!
Actually you limit him by humanizing him, not the other way around!

Jesus came in to the world in human form as a baby, therefore he was as a human being! He showed that He was GOD in the flesh/human form!
How did he show he was god? do you think gods use the bathroom, dam n the earth for not bearing fruit, pray for help and die?



Even muslims believe that Jesus is going to return!
But, why isn't mohammad going to return?

The Messenger fulfilled his message and died.. Jesus has risen because in Islam God doesn't forsake least of which the most righteous of his creation, but it is the lot of man to die, and as such Jesus will return to fulfill his prophecies and die as all men do .. when Jesus comes to earth he shall bear witness against YOU who have turned him into a god, he'll break the cross and will rule by Islamic jurisprudence!

all the best
 
NO there are not 66 gospels!
There is a total of 66 books in the bible, which consists of the Old and NEW testaments!
Jesus did not directly say to worship Him!
That comes from spiritual understanding and the command to worship the Lord your GOD!
Jesus being the Lord GOD in the flesh!

As I have said elsewhere, to help understand the trinity!

A grandfather is also a father and a son! 3 different relationships in 1 person.

But, GOD with His supreme power, is able to separate in to 3 persons at the same time!

GOD(YAHWEH) is not just 1 dimensional!


Sorry i meant 66 books :-\

Ofcourse Jesus (pbuh) did not directly say to worship him, he wasnt god!!!!
He worshipped God though and thats quite clear from the "Bible", or lets say his "REAL" teachings, where he worshipped god!!!
God forbid indeed!

God seperate into 3 persons? God created us with Logic, he is 3 persons? Seriously what?!?!?! God is seperated into 3 persons? SubhaanAllaah
Anyways, I respect your views but this isnt your words right? Im not trying to be disrespectful Forgive me if so, but that doesnt make sense ,Theyre supposedly Gods words? You basically believe God is man, whereas in the book of Numbers it clearly states "God is not man, that he should sin etc" and many other books, where God cannot take shape of a human.This is your book!


Anyways, these are the Attributes of God in Islaam:

These verses below are from the Quraan, Chapter 112(The Sincerety)

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; [112.2]

[112:2]
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;


[112:3]
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;


[112:4]
And there is none like unto Him.
 
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No, not at all!

GOD(YAHWEH) is 'spirit'!
John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."
He is invisible!
Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Therefore, to be able to come to us His created human beings, He became flesh and blood, in the form of Jesus Christ born of a woman!
He didn't just appear as a full grown adult from nowhere!

Galatians 4:4
But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law,




Is this the latest version of how christians use "logic" to explain trinity?

Honestly, it is not as amusing the the father, grandfather, and son. or the shell, white, and yolk of egg.
I am beginning to think that christians have lost some creativity here.
 
In an nutshell, to accept christianity means you must shut off your brain totally.
No difference than accepting other pagan religions.

Apology to Aadil for derailing the thread.
 
In an nutshell, to accept christianity means you must shut off your brain totally.
No difference than accepting other pagan religions.

Apology to Aadil for derailing the thread.

yup.. I think they subscribe to a 'religion' because they don't want to be thought off as china, all greed and no moral compunction, so they fancy themselves superior believing in a mangod from west Asia but not because they really believe this nonsense ..

:w:
 
is that why Roger the II of Sicily crushed the globe given him by the Muslim scholar Al-Idrisi citing that the earth is flat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Idrisi

you can re-write the bible to suit your desires, but unfortunately the dark ages of the church speak of a different reality..

btw why are using OT passages, when your god came to denounce all that and establish new commandments.. which parts do you deem allegorical and which do you deem real? and why should the purchase of a dying mangod be anything but a figure of speech if not the biggest hoax?
 
If He can be "4, 5, 6 or a MILLION persons" why can't He(GOD) become a human being! Not a mangod, but a GOD who became man!

You can't define God by human terms..
The church and the so called christians that you speak of are NOT christians, they are 'religious hypocrites'!

sure whatever you say!
 
i wonder how many followers the church would loose if they didnt have a disco every sunday?
 
^ yep theyd have to follow the religion Jesus pbuh truly taught, i dont think thats gonna happen
 
i wonder how many followers the church would loose if they didnt have a disco every sunday?

lol so true..


why bar hop when all the church can be had in a 'structured environment'
 
^Astagfirullaah, everytime i see these vids of "The holy spirit doing this or touching the spirit" vids, it really creeps me out, why they think thats a "Miracle" :(
SubhaanAllaah, May Allaah guide such people who think this is the way of God, Ameen.
 
^thats the spirit of shaytaan touching them LOL crazy nutters
 
Yeah so true!
Just the same as the hamas nutters who brain wash little children in to becoming child shaheeds with their
'Farfur' the mouse on al asqua tv!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2275185/hamas_mickey_mouse_teaches_terror_to_kids/

Sorry to interrupt, but what is the point here ?
Anyway, I don't want to make another off-topic discussion on how should be the Palestinian or Hamas's behaviour. You can open a new thread about that if you want to talk about hamas. But just a hint : these children live under bomb attacks and many Palestinian children are killed daily. And if they don't grow up and defend their selves and their families, no one will do it for them.

off topic anyway.
 
You notice in the video, the foul language of the mc! These are just more hypocrites!

Ephesians 5:4
Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.

Ephesians 5

1Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children 2and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
3But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. 4Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7Therefore do not be partners with them.

It is remarkable.. perhaps the majority of christians should be reacquainted with parts of their books (of course given everything, not sure which parts those should be).. considering the lack of reverence and foolishness, these man worshiping folks do in their churches..

all the best
 
2. Muslims should always be concerned with what is beneficial and constructive, and should avoid what does not bring about benefit and what does not preserve the honor


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Brothers and sisters, I don't think that arguing with questioner8 would bring any good. (Some people would never learn and accept truth). But you know better than me. It's just an advice.

Allah knows best!
 
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