US plan attack suspect quizzed after terror attempt

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as salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah,

I must say that the brother that we are speaking of--Umar Farouk--I must say that he had courage. Courage to do something that drastic. I will not malign the brother, but there are better ways to go about the goal of reformation and revival than the miscalculated steps that were undertaken.

AQAP claimed responsibility for the attack and seen a "victory" in the fact that the explosives were able to pass through security. However, Umar Farouk didn't appear competent enough to carry out the mission.

As far as Shaykh Anwar al Awalaki is concerned, he is a great shaykh and his knowledge is needed in this Ummah. Some things that he may utter are controversial, but people always find things controversial, backwards, or illogical in Islam. He is a admirable shaykh who inspires millions. I listened to his 'Lives of the Prophets' collection and that was so in depth that it made me look at the situation in these times as reminders and re-happenings.

May Allaah bless and give victory to the Muslims. Ameen.
 
i feel bad the guy had burns on him and i am happy his stupid plan was not able to be completed....but honestly with as protective as people are now days... i am surpised he made it off the plane still breathing... a group of people in panic easily become a mob... especially when there is no way out. right wrong or other wise i cant say how i would act if i was the person on the plane next to him...
 
Grofica said:
i feel bad the guy had burns on him and i am happy his stupid plan was not able to be completed....but honestly with as protective as people are now days... i am surpised he made it off the plane still breathing... a group of people in panic easily become a mob... especially when there is no way out. right wrong or other wise i cant say how i would act if i was the person on the plane next to him...
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I must admit, I too am surprised this potential comedian survived. If anyone were trying to kill me, my friends and little children on a plane, irregardless of how much the plot fails, I would not hesitate to kill them.
 
this guy got on the plane without a passport how on earth is that possible ?
 
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I must admit, I too am surprised this potential comedian survived. If anyone were trying to kill me, my friends and little children on a plane, irregardless of how much the plot fails, I would not hesitate to kill them.
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honestly i cant say what i would or would not do... and i am sure this is the wrong answer or the wrong way to be but i dont think i have it in me just to go... ok mr. bad guy you wait in your chair till the cops come... :heated:
 
Abdullahii said:
this guy got on the plane without a passport how on earth is that possible ?
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are you serious?!?!?!?!?! maybe he flushed it or something i know when i fly (especially internationally) those little guys before the scanners grill everyone forever... where are you going, where are you coming from, why are you going there, why were you where you are, what flight did you come off of... how long were you at the airport, did you leave your bags unattended, did you pack your bag, did anyone stick anything in your bag without your knowledge, (seriously that one is a stupid question.... if i didnt know they stuck it in my bag then how would i know) uhmmm do you have anything with batteries, where did you buy your camera, why does your toothbrush have a battery, let me see your drivers license (to match with passport) seriously they ask for everything except my highschool GPA!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Comment by Inayat Bunglawala:

Gain trust to stop terrorism

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab's father warned authorities about him. It's a good reminder of the best way to prevent terrorism.

As Barack Obama takes his security services to task for their "systemic failure" in the case of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, it is worth recalling that Umar's own father was the person who first alerted the US embassy in Nigeria to his concerns regarding his son.

The reported warning by Umar's father is an important reminder that very often our best defence against would-be terrorists and their ambitions are the anxieties of their own family members and the local communities that know them best. Back in 2006, here in the UK, the parents of an 18-year-old schoolboy from Ilford, Irfan Raja, became alarmed when he disappeared from home leaving them a note in which he talked about going to heaven and tried to comfort his parents about leaving them, saying: "Just in case you think I am going to do something in this country, you can rest easy that I am not. The conventional method of warfare is safer."

Irfan's parents did not wait to find out what that "conventional method" was and went straight to the police. Fortunately, after a series of frantic phone calls, his parents managed to persuade Irfan to return home after three days. Their actions had, however, enabled the police to track Irfan's recent movements and discover a group of four other young students he had been in touch with. The authorities then prosecuted the entire group under the Terrorism Act but their convictions were all – rightly – quashed on appeal. Although all had been reading extremist material, they had not actually committed any crime. The commendable actions of Irfan's parents may well have prevented matters from progressing further.

And just last summer, a convert to Islam, Isa Ibrahim, was apprehended by police before he was able to carry out his plan to bomb the Broadmead Shopping Centre in Bristol. Ibrahim was caught following a tip-off to the police from the local Muslim community who had become increasingly concerned about him – especially after he arrived at the local mosque with cuts and bruises on his hands and feet. "All of Bristol should be grateful and recognise the contribution of the Muslim community to the investigation – without a doubt they saved people from serious injuries if not worse," said Detective Superintendent Nigel Rock, who led the investigation.

In yesterday's Daily Telegraph, however, Anthony Glees, professor of security and intelligence studies at the University of Buckingham, is quoted as saying:
"I believe Abdulmutallab's radicalisation from being a devoted Muslim to a suicide bomber took place in the UK and I believe al-Qaida recruited him in London. Universities and colleges like UCL have got to realise that you don't get suicide bombers unless they have first been radicalised ... All British universities must look at their Islamic Societies and demand assurances that no radicalisation will be allowed. If they can't give those assurances, they should be disbanded."
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Glees does not share with us what actual evidence, if any, he has that enables him to conclude that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was recruited by al-Qaida in London, but we'll pass over that for now. Of more immediate concern is his absurd demand that student Islamic societies give "assurances that no radicalisation will be allowed" and that they should be disbanded unless they do. What on earth is "radicalisation" supposed to mean in this context? The Telegraph mentions that the Islamic society at University College London – of which Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was president – organised a series of lectures in 2007 on the "War on Terror". Can you imagine that? Students organising lectures that are critical of US and UK foreign policy. Goodness, who would have thought it?

Rather than trying to demonise student Islamic societies for their supposed radicalism, our counter-terrorism efforts will surely bear greater fruit if they focused more on building genuine partnerships with local communities and gaining their trust.

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His friend said on the news today that he believes he was radicalized after London.
 
the guy travels with no passport from yemen to nigeria to holland to the US carrying a syringe and fancy boxers made out of chemicals so he lights the boxers on fire burning his johnson with it too without making an involuntary scream for help

the story is so comical and stupendous,i dont accept the media's version of the story its just so funny
 
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1.Yemen's civil war

2.The failed bombing of the northwest airlines

3.somali man linked with al shabab being shot after trying to kill the danish artist

4.nigerian bomber recieved bomb material in yemen

5.somali al shabab seek to help yemeni fighters to resist saudi arabian forces




thats the news so far being replayed and now we hear that Gordon brown will hold a meeting regarding the issue of yemen with other top government officials and before that he talked about the need to install body scanners in airports


a classic example of (problem) (reaction) (solution)
 
 
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The Prime Minister today has said people boarding flights will have to pass through body scanners.
 

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