We are not required to wear Hijab- please help me refute

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I am a revert. My parents are going mad because i'm wearing hijab. They say I'm not obliged to do it and that God doesn't say we have to cover our hair only our bosoms and beauty and that this is mistranslated into hair.

I've posted in the verses from Qur'an...please help me with convincing arguments to refute their claims because my speech is obviously not good enough no matter how I try to explain.

Also they say because i'm not muslim by birth i'm not required to wear it but i know this is untrue. Please help me show them that we must do it!

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YUSUFALI: Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
PICKTHAL: Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is aware of what they do.
SHAKIR: Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is Aware of what they do.

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YUSUFALI: And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.
PICKTHAL: And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands' fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters' sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who know naught of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed.
SHAKIR: And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful.
 
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The Qur'an advises the wives of the Prophet (SAS) to go veiled (33: 59).

The Qur'an lays down the principle of the law of modesty. In Surah 24: An-Nur: 30 and 31, modesty is enjoined both upon Muslim men and Muslim women 4:

Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for Greater purity for them: And God is Well-acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women That they should lower their gaze And guard their modesty: and they should not display beauty and ornaments expect what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that They must draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, or their women, or their slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their ornaments.

One of the verses in the Qur'an protects a woman's fundamental rights. Aya 59 from Sura al-Ahzab reads:

O Prophet! Tell Thy wives And daughters, and the Believing women, that They should cast their Outer garments over Their Persons (when outside): That they should be known (As such) and not Molested.

Although this verse is directed in the first place to the Prophet's "wives and daughters", there is a reference also to "the believing women" hence it is generally understood by Muslim societies as applying to all Muslim women. According to the Qur'an the reason why Muslim women should wear an outer garment when going out of their houses is so that they may be recognized as "believing" Muslim women and differentiated from street-walkers for whom sexual harassment is an occupational hazard. The purpose of this verse was not to confine women to their houses but to make it safe for them to go about their daily business without attracting unwholesome attention. By wearing the outer garment a "believing" Muslim woman could be distinguished from the others. In societies where there is no danger of "believing" Muslim being confused with the others or in which "the outer garment" is unable to function as a mark of identification for "believing" Muslim women, the mere wearing of "the outer garment" would not fulfill the true objective of the Qur'anic decree. For example that older Muslim women who are "past the prospect of marriage" are not required to wear "the outer garment". Surah 24: An-Nur, Aya 60 reads:

Such elderly women are past the prospect of marriage,-- There is no blame on them, if they lay aside their (outer) garments, provided they make not wanton display of their beauty; but it is best for them to be modest: and Allah is One who sees and knows all things.

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Salam Aleikum, thanks for reply but I posted that verse myself. The point they are making is 'it doesn't mention hair, and doesn't it just mean loose clothing....'
 
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Simply things to do is you can ask Imam in the internet online..you can click the link above the post by brother..:thumbs_up


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Ok I looked at the link, the evidence it provides are that niqab is obligatory not just hijab.

So I am still doing wrong then just wearing hijab?

I can't provide this as evidence to them unless I wear niqab and it was hard enough to put on the hijab , I don't think I can manage niqab :cry:
 
Jazak Allah brother

I feel worse than ever now because i'm only wearing hijab and I thought i was doing good and now I find out its not even correct. I read a hadith about Muhammad (saws) saying to Aisha's relative that after puberty the only things that should be seen are the hands and face (he pointed to indicate this) so I thought hijab was ok and niqab was just recommended more.

And i don't think i'll ever manage niqab.

So I can't even defend myself against my family with quotations and quranic or hadith proof.

May Allah give me patience , this is hard
 
Asselamu aleykum,

Some madhab say it is obligatory, others say it's a recommendation. :)
 
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I am so sorry for you..is there any mosques in your area? If so, maybe you can go to discussing with Imam about your problem..He will, InshAllah, help you!

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Asalaamu 'alykum.


If you click on this link, the scholars explain that even if someone is a revert - they still have to wear hijaab:

http://www.islamonline.net/livefatwa/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=9t3PNc

http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=6k167a


Press CTRL and F and type hijab to find the fatwas related to the hijaab. The scholars state that its not for born muslims but for all muslims alike.

They also give tips/advice on how to wear it, even if its a gradual practise.. since that's better than not doing it ever.
 
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Jazak Allah brother

I feel worse than ever now because i'm only wearing hijab and I thought i was doing good and now I find out its not even correct. I read a hadith about Muhammad (saws) saying to Aisha's relative that after puberty the only things that should be seen are the hands and face (he pointed to indicate this) so I thought hijab was ok and niqab was just recommended more.

And i don't think i'll ever manage niqab.

So I can't even defend myself against my family with quotations and quranic or hadith proof.

May Allah give me patience , this is hard
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Hang in there Sister!

Hijaab is compulsory

Niqaab is prefered but not a requirement, it can cause fitna one way or the other.

do not take every half baked decree that you see on web as word of Allah or RasulAllah
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do not forget, Islaam is easy remember to take it in steps

I try my best to keep away from sites like islamqa.com for I fear that they could pose danger to my eemaan
 
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The following text is an edited translation of a summary of ar-Radd al-Mufhim by Shaykh Naasiruddeen al-Albaanee found in pages 5-20 of the introduction of his book Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 3rd edition, 1996, al-Maktabah al-Islaamiyyah.

The main errors of those who make the face veil obligatory

1. The interpretation of al-idnaa’ in the verse of the Jilbaab to mean “covering the face”.

This misinterpretation is contrary to the basic meaning of the word in Arabic which is “to come close”, as is mentioned in authoritative dictionaries like al-Mufradaat by the well-known scholar, ar-Raaghib al-Asbahaanee. However, there is sufficient evidence in the interpretation of the leading commentator on the Quran, Ibn ‘Abbaas, who explained the verse saying, “She should bring the jilbaab close to her face without covering it.” It should be noted that none of the narrations used as evidence to contradict this interpretation are authentic.


2. The interpretation of jilbaab as “a garment which covers the face.”

Like the previous misinterpretation, this interpretation has no basis linguistically. It is contrary to the interpretation of the leading scholars, past and present, who define the jilbaab as a garment which women drape over their head scarves (khimaar). Even Shaykh at-Tuwaijree himself narrated this interpretation from Ibn Mas‘ood and other Salafee scholars. Al-Baghawee mentioned it as the correct interpretation in his Tafseer (vol. 3, p. 518) saying, “It is the garment which a woman covers herself with worn above the dress (dir ‘) and the headscarf.” Ibn Hazm also said, “The jilbaab in the Arabic language in which the Messenger of Allaah (pbuh) spoke to us is what covers the whole body and not just a part of it.” (vol. 3, p. 217). Al-Qurtubee declared this correct in his Tafseer and Ibn Katheer said, “It is the cloak worn above the headscarf.” (vol. 3, p. 518)


3. The claim that the khimaar (headscarf) covers the head and the face.

In doing so “the face” has been arbitrarily added to its meaning in order to make the verse: “Let them drape their headscarves over their busoms” appear to be in their favor, when, in fact it is not. The word khimaar linguistically means only a head covering. Whenever it is mentioned in general terms, this is what is intended. For example in the hadeeths on wiping (mas-h) on the khimaar and the prophetic statement, “The salaah of a woman past puberty will not be accepted without a khimaar.” This hadeeth confirms the invalidity of their misinterpretation, because not even the extremists themselves – much less the scholars – use it as evidence that the covering of a woman's face in salaah is a condition for its validity. They only use it as proof for covering the head. Furthermore, their interpretation of the verse of the Qawaa‘id “… to remove their clothing” to mean “jilbaab” further confirms it. They hold that it is permissible for old women to appear before marriagealbe males in her headscarf with her face exposed. One of their noteable scholars openly stated that. As for Shaykh at-Tuwaijree, he implied it without actually saying it.


After checking the opinions of the early and later scholars in all the specializations, I found that they unanimously hold that the khimaar is a head covering. I have mentioned the names of more than twenty scholars, among them some of the great Imaams and hadeeth scholars. For example, Abul-Waleed al-Baajee (d. 474 AH) who further added in his explanation, “Nothing should be seen of her besides the circle of her face.”


4. The claim of a consensus (Ijmaa‘) on the face being considered ‘awrah.

Shaykh at-Tuwaijree claimed that scholars unanimously held that the woman's face was ‘awrah and many who have no knowledge, including some Ph.D. holders, have blindly followed him. In fact, it is a false claim, which no one before him has claimed. The books of Hambalite scholars which he learned from, not to mention those of others, contain sufficient proof of its falsehood. I have mentioned many of their statements in Ar-Radd. For example, Ibn Hubayrah al-Hambalee stated in his book, al-Ifsaah, that the face is not considered ‘awrah in the three main schools of Islaamic law and he added, “It is also a narrated position of Imaam Ahmad.” Many Hambalite scholars preferred this narration in their books, like Ibn Qudaamah and others. Ibn Qudaamah in al-Mughnee explained the reason for his preference saying, “Because necessity demands that the face be uncovered for buying and selling, and the hands be uncovered for taking and giving.”


Among the Hambalite scholars, is the great Ibn Muflih al-Hambalee about whom Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah said, “There is no one under the dome of the sky more knowledgeable about the school of Imaam Ahmad than Ibn Muflih.” And his teacher, Ibn Taymiyyah, once told him, “You aren't Ibn Muflih, you are Muflih!”

It is incumbent on me to convey Ibn Muflih’s statements for the readers because of the knowledge and many benefits contained in them. Included in them is further confirmation of the falsehood of Shaykh at-Tuwaijree’s claim and support for the correctness of my position on the issue of uncovering the face. Ibn Muflih stated the following in his valuable work al-Aadaab ash-Shar‘iyyah – which is among the references cited by Shaykh at-Tuwaijree (something which indicates that he is aware of it, but has deliberately hidden these crucial facts from his readers while claiming the contrary):


“Is it correct to chastise marriageable women if they uncover their faces in the street?
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The answer depends on whether it is compulsory for women to cover their faces or whether it is compulsory for men to lower their gaze from her. There are two positions on this issue.
  • Regarding the hadeeth of Jareer in which he said, “I asked Allaah’s Messenger about the sudden inadvertent glance and he instructed me to look away.” Al-Qaadee ‘Iyaad commented, “The scholars, May Allaah Most High have mercy on them, have said that there is proof in this hadeeth that it is not compulsory for a woman to cover her face in the street. Instead, it is a recommended sunnah for her to do so and it is compulsory for the man to lower his gaze from her at all times, except for a legislated purpose. Shaykh Muhyud-deen an-Nawawee mentioned that without further explanation.”
  • Then al-Muflih mentioned Ibn Taymiyyah’s statement which at-Tuwaijree relies on in his book (page 170), while feigning ignorance of the statements of the majority of scholars. Statements like those of al-Qaadee ‘Iyaad and an-Nawawee’s agreement with it.
Then al-Muflih said, “On the basis of that, is chastisement legal? Chastisement is not allowed in issues in where there is a difference of opinion, and the difference has already been mentioned. As regards our opinion and that of a group of Shaafi‘ite scholars and others, looking at a marriageable woman without desire or in a secluded circumstance is permissible. Therefore, chastisement is not proper.”

This answer is in complete agreement with Imaam Ahmad’s statement, “It is not proper that a jurist oblige people to follow his opinion (math-hab).” And this is if the truth were on his side. What of the case where the jurist proudly, dishonestly misleads people and declares other Muslims to be disbelievers as at-Tuwaijree did on page 249 of his book saying,

“… Whoever permits women to expose their faces and uses the proofs of al-Albaanee has flung open the door for women to publicly flaunt their beauty and emboldened them to commit the reprehensible acts done by women who uncover their faces today.” And on page 233 he said, “… and to disbelief in the verses of Allaah.”

Those are his words – May Allaah reform him and guide him. What would he say about Ibn Muflih, an-Nawawee, al-Qaadee ‘Iyaad and other Palestinian scholars, as well as the majority of scholars who preceded them and who are my salaf regarding my opinion on this matter?

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As Salaamu Alaikum,

As Al-Zaara said, Difference of opinion but please do not work yourself up over it. You have to do what is in your heart. If you are comfortable with just Hijab, than wear Hijab. Always do what in your heart and for the sake of Allah. I did read some where and forgive me for not having the daleel but Christian at one time covered also. Another thing is if your family see that you are uncomfortable, sometimes that feed off of that but if they see your confidence that you have when you put on your Hijab, Masha'Allah... they will not say nothing. You don't have to prove you Hijab/niqab to no one but
yourself. Once you see it, they will. Allahu'Alim

May Allah guide you and continue to strenghten your eman and give you patience with your family. Ameen.
 
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I know that when i started to grow the beard (by the will of Allaah), i found it quite difficult.. but once i accepted it personally myself - then no matter what others said, it never put me off it since i had set my mind to it whole heartedly.

I think this is be really beneficial:
http://www.islamicboard.com/cyber-counselling/26616-feeling-like-stranger.html
http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-multimedia/39381-ghuraba-khalid-yasin.html


Someone once said that if you don't sacrifice for the sake of Allaah, then how much do you really value your faith? Because i remember that before when i learnt about islaam, i was trying to change myself inwardly.. and the beard was the main first step which i took outwardly, i knew this would be the beginning to my trials, since hellfire is surrounded by lusts & desires and paradise is surrounded by hardships and disliked things [according to a prophetic saying.]
 
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Thanks all of you so much for your answers, you're really helping me, may Allah reward you all with all good and protect you from all harm.

Well I am wearing hijab already but my parents are so angry.
Now they have stated that I must just not wear it at home with them or at my sister's houses 'out of respect' for them.
I have told I do respect them but this is trying to take away my right to practice my religion. I feel they may be ashamed or embarrassed to be seen with me in hijab

I have refused to take it off even if it means staying away so they are very annoyed, please pray dua for them that their hearts and minds open soon.

Jazak Allah brothers and sisters
 
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Medina83 said:
Thanks all of you so much for your answers, you're really helping me, may Allah reward you all with all good and protect you from all harm.

Well I am wearing hijab already but my parents are so angry.
Now they have stated that I must just not wear it at home with them or at my sister's houses 'out of respect' for them.
I have told I do respect them but this is trying to take away my right to practice my religion. I feel they may be ashamed or embarrassed to be seen with me in hijab

I have refused to take it off even if it means staying away so they are very annoyed, please pray dua for them that their hearts and minds open soon.

Jazak Allah brothers and sisters
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You know hijaab is mainly for outdoors and/or when strangers/mariageable men are inside your parent's house. I don't believe that it is for your family and or other pious women.

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You know hijaab is mainly for outdoors and/or when strangers/mariageable men are inside your parent's house. I don't believe that it is for your family and or other pious women.

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Yes I know , I explained this to them...it fell on deaf ears ....

also on a different point , i would just say that i think saying 'marriageable' men is a bit dangerous ...because non-Muslims are not marriageable for us so one could say then that we could not wear it in front of non-muslim men.....which is of course untrue.....hope you don't mind me saying so :-)
 
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Medina83 said:
Yes I know , I explained this to them...it fell on deaf ears ....
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also remember that it is not possible to change a person's mind with constant argument. or to make them think (even unintentionaly) that every thing they held dear for so long is false.

In this situation the only solution I see is love, yes love them and show it thru deed and action (yes, even in face of abuse)

A person used to empty a trash can on Prophet of Allah on his way to Mosque. one day it did not happen and Rasul Allah became worried about the well being of the abuser and went to enquire about that person,s health.

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