We worship GOD Almighty in His Grand Temple/House. We never worship the House itsel

[FatimaAsSideqah]

"Do you feel secure that He, Who is fis-sama (above the heavens), will not cause the earth to sink…Or do you feel secure that He, Who is fis-sama (above the heavens) will not send against you a violent whirlwind?" [67:16-17]

It is important to point out here that the literal translation of 'fis-sama' is 'in' the heavens. The scholars of tafseer have explained it according to the Arabic language for 'fi' in this context to have the meaning of above as it is not possible for Allah to be surrounded by His creation i.e. the heavens.

Abdullah ibn Amr ibn Al-As related that the Messenger said, "Allah grants mercy to the merciful. Be merciful to those who are on the earth, (then) He Who is fis-Sama (above the heavens) will be merciful to you." [Abu Dawood & At-Tirmidhi]

And the Muslims of today have the audacity to say that Allah is everywhere when their own Messenger pointed nowhere except to the sky above him in this clear hadith. I ask you, O Muslims, if you were to sit in front of me and I were to refer to you, would not I point directly to you and NOT the ground or to the sky to do so? So, why is it then when the Prophet points to the sky above him to refer to Allah we do not understand from this that Allah was above him, is above you and all his creations? Why do we wonder any more?

Muawiyah bin Al-Hakam As-Salmi said:

"I had a slave-girl who used to herd sheep for me. One day I discovered that a wolf had killed one of her sheep, and I'm a man from the children of Adam, I get upset like they get upset, and I slapped her in the face. Then I went to the Prophet who impressed upon me the seriousness of my act. I said, 'O Messenger of Allah, should I not set her free?' He said, 'Bring her to me.' He asked her, 'Where is Allah', She said, 'He is above the heavens.' He said, 'Who am I?' She said, 'You are the Messenger of Allah.' He said, 'Free her, for she is a believer.' (Muslim and Abu Dawud)

"Whoever does not affirm that Allah is above His heavens, upon His Throne and that He is distinct from His creation; must be forced to repent. If he does not repent, then he must be beheaded and then thrown into a garbage dump, so that the Muslims and the Ahl-Dhimma (the Christians and the Jew) will not suffer from his stinking smell." [Al-Hakim in Al-Marifah].

These verses merely point to the fact that Allah is everywhere but only by His Knowledge, His Seeing, His Hearing and His Power. Only this explanation will allow one to be in compliance with all the other proofs from the Quran, the Sunnah and the Ijma of the companions.

Peace..

 

[Fr0mHim]

Re: We worship GOD Almighty

"Do you feel secure that He, Who is fis-sama (above the heavens), will not cause the earth to sink…Or do you feel secure that He, Who is fis-sama (above the heavens) will not send against you a violent whirlwind?" [67:16-17]

It is important to point out here that the literal translation of 'fis-sama' is 'in' the heavens. The scholars of tafseer have explained it according to the Arabic language for 'fi' in this context to have the meaning of above as it is not possible for Allah to be surrounded by His creation i.e. the heavens.

Abdullah ibn Amr ibn Al-As related that the Messenger said, "Allah grants mercy to the merciful. Be merciful to those who are on the earth, (then) He Who is fis-Sama (above the heavens) will be merciful to you." [Abu Dawood & At-Tirmidhi]

And the Muslims of today have the audacity to say that Allah is everywhere when their own Messenger pointed nowhere except to the sky above him in this clear hadith. I ask you, O Muslims, if you were to sit in front of me and I were to refer to you, would not I point directly to you and NOT the ground or to the sky to do so? So, why is it then when the Prophet points to the sky above him to refer to Allah we do not understand from this that Allah was above him, is above you and all his creations? Why do we wonder any more?

Muawiyah bin Al-Hakam As-Salmi said:

"I had a slave-girl who used to herd sheep for me. One day I discovered that a wolf had killed one of her sheep, and I'm a man from the children of Adam, I get upset like they get upset, and I slapped her in the face. Then I went to the Prophet who impressed upon me the seriousness of my act. I said, 'O Messenger of Allah, should I not set her free?' He said, 'Bring her to me.' He asked her, 'Where is Allah', She said, 'He is above the heavens.' He said, 'Who am I?' She said, 'You are the Messenger of Allah.' He said, 'Free her, for she is a believer.' (Muslim and Abu Dawud)

"Whoever does not affirm that Allah is above His heavens, upon His Throne and that He is distinct from His creation; must be forced to repent. If he does not repent, then he must be beheaded and then thrown into a garbage dump, so that the Muslims and the Ahl-Dhimma (the Christians and the Jew) will not suffer from his stinking smell." [Al-Hakim in Al-Marifah].

These verses merely point to the fact that Allah is everywhere but only by His Knowledge, His Seeing, His Hearing and His Power. Only this explanation will allow one to be in compliance with all the other proofs from the Quran, the Sunnah and the Ijma of the companions.

Peace..

I think what those verses are saying is that Allah is distinct.... He is bigger than his creation in the means of.... unlike humans who want people to pay for the wrongs that they commit Allah is merciful and grace giving.... I kind of got that from the verse that says allah is above the heavens.... His acts go far beyond what I can think or imagine... He can do only what I cannot do... and he can do what I can do... but that goes to his acts...
as a verse says in the Bible.... Isaiah 55:7 - 9
7 Let the wicked forsake his way
and the evil man his thoughts.
Let him turn to the LORD, and he will have mercy on him,
and to our God, for he will freely pardon.

8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the LORD.

9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

but it is not speaking about him being in a particular place....

 

[One Man Army]

and just to fink, it was Guru Nanak jee that proved this to the world when he went to mecca n turned the whole of the kabah..

Guru Sahib slept with his feet toward the kabah, an angry qazi named Jivan kikd Guru sahib and told him 2 move his feet, Guru Sahib humbly askd him to move his feet in a direction where God wasnt, where ever he moved them, there stood the kabah facing Guru Sahibs feet. God resides in all directions, its Gods power-light-noor-jyot that gives life to all existance. with out that jyot-light, it will sees to exist. its like the battries of creation. from the primal void before creation, God remained in constant form and meditation within himself, God then created the light, from which he created the universe. the light prevades in all and in everthing. the light is God. it is the energy that cannot be destroyed, or cannot be created.

wheres my source of evidence on he mecca story?? Bhai Gurdas jees vaars, one of the greatest scholors of the time, whose scriptures where authenticised by the Gurus

 

[جوري]

We have already covered this point here before... putting his feet toward the Kaaba would be equivalent of you putting your feet up on someone's coffee table. In a nutshell it is disrespectful... your Guru didn't make a prolific point of G-D being every where, he was being rude... putting your feet up toward the bathroom isn't as disrespectful as putting your feet up on someone's coffee table... though the ownership of the house belongs to the same person.

peace!

 

[One Man Army]

funny that, all the Qazis, hajjis and maulvis at the time bowed before Guru Nanak and asked for spiritual guidence, they askd for Guru Sahib to leave them with one artifact that they could remember him by...

when Guru Nanak jee moved his feet toward the kabah, the first Qazi came and kicked him, Guru Sahib then said, i have a mouth, and so do you, so stand there and tell me what mistake i have made and i will gladly correct myself, as to Sant Hari Singh jees Katha suggests..

I guess you would have a more accurate account of history then someone who was one of the greatest scholors of that time.
lol yeh i gues Guru Nanak jee had nothing better to do then to visit mecca just to be rude to the muslims there....

 

[- Qatada -]

funny that, all the Qazis, hajjis and maulvis at the time bowed before Guru Nanak and asked for spiritual guidence, they askd for Guru Sahib to leave them with one artifact that they could remember him by...

I think all muslims know that we don't bow to no-one but Allaah alone. Since it is an act of worship.

when Guru Nanak jee moved his feet toward the kabah, the first Qazi came and kicked him, Guru Sahib then said, i have a mouth, and so do you, so stand there and tell me what mistake i have made and i will gladly correct myself, as to Sant Hari Singh jees Katha suggests..

I wonder why this 'qazi' would kick him for facing his feet to the Ka'abah, yet he doesn't mind bowing to him which is something much more serios?

I guess you would have a more accurate account of history then someone who was one of the greatest scholors of that time.
lol yeh i gues Guru Nanak jee had nothing better to do then to visit mecca just to be rude to the muslims there....

I think the guardians of the Haram in Makkah would be the first to stop this act, and something so shocking as this would be recorded in our history. Much more shocking stuff has been recorded so i don't think something as surprising as this wouldn't be either.