What a great new law!!

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sis SUMMAYAH, may I ask why you are against people getting married to people from their own home country rather than from the countries they live in?
 
SUMMAYAH said:
This has nothing to do with Islam!!!
I'm talking about an immigration law that's going to come into effect in UK!!!
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yeh.. and i'm saying that law is discriminatory... Islam doesn't support discriminating based on language.

So why where you trying to somehow defend it using islam supporting traditional marraiges or what not.. :rolleyes:

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i asked my dhadha this question and he said"

"imagine you find a beautiful pious perfect wife back home, you want to bring her to this country, but you cant! Why? Simply because she doesnt know english. Is english necessary? NO"
 
Malaikah said:
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sis SUMMAYAH, may I ask why you are against people getting married to people from their own home country rather than from the countries they live in?
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Like I said before, I feel that people from two different countries be on different wave lengths when it comes to marrying and moving together.
With the current generation in UK, it's best if we marry within our own country.
 
SUMMAYAH said:
Like I said before, I feel that people from two different countries be on different wave lengths when it comes to marrying and moving together.
With the current generation in UK, it's best if we marry within our own country.
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sometimes its nice to try understanding the other wavelength...
 
SUMMAYAH said:
Like I said before, I feel that people from two different countries be on different wave lengths when it comes to marrying and moving together.
With the current generation in UK, it's best if we marry within our own country.
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But I do not think we have the right to stop people from marrying from different countries... heaps of my cousins did just that and they are all happily married alhamdullilah.

Just because we wouldn't want to do it, doesn't mean others don't mind. :)
 
Malaikah said:
But I do not think we have the right to stop people from marrying from different countries... heaps of my cousins did just that and they are all happily married alhamdullilah.

Just because we wouldn't want to do it, doesn't mean others don't mind. :)
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this is exactly why i think this law sucks. Some people dont care if their wife/husband cant speak english
 
ok... i thought this was a marriage thread for a moment lol

islam doesn't discriminate on language.... the laws mentioned here are discriminatory.

we judge people based on behaviour and character, not on their linguistic abilities.

Thinking they won't integrate coz of language is a psychological barrier. No more no less.
 
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Malaikah said:
But I do not think we have the right to stop people from marrying from different countries... heaps of my cousins did just that and they are all happily married alhamdullilah.

Just because we wouldn't want to do it, doesn't mean others don't mind. :)
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No ones talking about stopping people marrying in other countries. The thread is about this new law where you're required to learn a few things about the country you're migrating to! I'm sure you could do that for the person your going to spend the rest of your life with......find out a bit about where they live.....
 
SUMMAYAH said:
No ones talking about stopping people marrying in other countries. The thread is about this new law where you're required to learn a few things about the country you're migrating to! I'm sure you could do that for the person your going to spend the rest of your life with......find out a bit about where they live.....
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thats true aswell... hmm now i think its a good law!!
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
you mean open minded? lol, but its tru tho, its nice if they know about the family etc but i still dont think it shouldnt be forced....

wait law sucks!!! its forcing :eek:
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wat is islam but laws and applications ... lol

i gues su didnt mean it tht way...
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
you mean open minded? lol, but its tru tho, its nice if they know about the family etc but i still dont think it shouldnt be forced....
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But why would they need to learn English to be able to talk to the family? They have the same background, I assume they would all speak the same non-English language?:?
 
Malaikah said:
But why would they need to learn English to be able to talk to the family? They have the same background, I assume they would all speak the same non-English language?:?
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i guess its because they know english better and are more adapted to the way of the west then the way of the east..
 
Nearly all the people I know who are born in UK are more fluent in English then their mother-tongue. In fact some of them don't even know it.
 
There is a down side of being forced to learn the language of the country a person migrates too. That leaves the children with the impression that their native language is inferior.

I tend to believe that people have an incentive to learn the language of any country they migrate to. It just takes a generation for it to become natural. Typicaly the second generation will be speaking it as well as the natives.

The first generation is aware of the hardships and they will often compensate by excelling in areas where the language is not important.

Stop and think when we were first born we did not speak the language of the country we were born in. we didn't even speak the language of our parents. But somehow we survived and people understood us. Most likely by the time we were 5 years old we were quite fluent. People will adapt to a language. Laws are not needed to impose it.

I can understand the reasoning for having English and culture classes available for new comers to a country. But they need not be a condition for citizenship. Most newcomers will gladly take them.

Of course you all are talking about the UK. My opinions may not be workable there.

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