What about animals?

[IVoIIIoVI]

I think we got your point the first time <_< In case you actually plan to do it, the number of birds is supposed to be 24 :rollseyes
Why don't you debate with VegetarianSoul instead of making comments like these anyway? :mmokay:

There is nothing to debate since its arguments are entirely emotional. When it makes a logical argument, I will then refute it.

 

[IVoIIIoVI]

(and kill another bird)

 

[zakirs]

@veg

I respect your beliefs indeed we all have the responsibility to share food with our human brothers and sisters.But its not a matter of responsibility but a matter of compassion.Its the same a why would we live in big houses when our poor sisters and bros are in huts and some homeless.

Its because humans like luxury , for some its their cozy bed , for some its their iphone and for some its their meat sandwich.

While its true that we hurt animals while eating nonveg , don't we hurt a plant while eating a potato ? infact we pull it out from its home and boil it while its alive.And don't think we haven't seen slaughter houses , i have gone a few times while i feel very sad when i see an animal killed , I also think its a part and parcel of life.

 

[Fטлку]

There is nothing to debate since its arguments are entirely emotional. When it makes a logical argument, I will then refute it.

(and kill another bird)

Of course, it's based on emotions and you don't have any! :mmokay:
Dude, it might just be a joke to you but I think the subject is pretty close to OP's heart so cool it a bit.

 

[IVoIIIoVI]

Of course, it's based on emotions and you don't have any! :mmokay:
Dude, it might just be a joke to you but I think the subject is pretty close to OP's heart so cool it a bit.

I'm not joking. I have a shotgun, a hunting license, and a wirehaired gryphon pointer (hunting dog) and I live 20 minutes from mountains full of chukar (a game bird). I am seriously waiting for VagSoul to post again so I have an excuse to kill a few of them.

 

[Vito]

I never saw exclusivly any animal killing or slaughtering in factory farms , but I was aware something is just not right about it. Everything is kept so much hidden from people that they dont actually see or realise it. And then I watched one video where a piglet was left consciously bleeding to death, was painfully crying a LOT just that sound touched my heart and I wished I could go and stop it, I felt really horrible.

And too many diseases. Mad cow disease is just another horror in meat industry, when I read about it I was very disgusted to hear that they even feed garbage of blood,carcass waste from slaughter industry, to herbivorous cattles eventually bringing diseases like MAD COW disease, you can check that out. . The government has tightened cattle-feed rules, but loopholes still permit cattle blood as a milk substitute and chicken waste as a protein supplement. If you live in U.S. or Canada you probably know that it remains common to include the blood, bone, and unwanted flesh of all types of farmed animals in the feed of chickens, turkeys, and pigs,etc which is illegal in Europe and Japan

That is why in Islam we are only supposed to eat halaal meat. As long as its done correctly, the animal won't feel pain.

 

[Fטлку]

I'm not joking. I have a shotgun, a hunting license, and a wirehaired gryphon pointer (hunting dog) and I live 20 minutes from mountains full of chukar (a game bird).

And you find it necessary to flaunt it here? :mmokay:

I am seriously waiting for VagSoul to post again so I have an excuse to kill a few of them.

Then I hope you'll have to stay there all night shooting then because VegSoul will continue to post despite your attitude.Hmph.
And besides, it's not like you need an excuse to kill them.

PS, it is not like I'm a great supporter of Animal Rights. I just hate the way you're talking to VegSoul.

 

[IVoIIIoVI]

And you find it necessary to flaunt it here? :mmokay:

I also have an F350 pickup truck.

[QUOTE}Then I hope you'll have to stay there all night shooting then because VegSoul will continue to post despite your attitude.Hmph.
And besides, it's not like you need an excuse to kill them..[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Actually, VagSoul has not posted since I said that. Shame. And I do need an excuse, because I have the day off and my wife wants me to stay home, but she knows I always keep my word, so if I show her this thread and VagSoul posts more she can't get angry. Please post, VS. Don't worry about the birds. They won't feel a thing.

 

[Predator]

I would like to ask that author if he would feel disgusted at the same level, if he sees a dead body of an animal bleeding and lying or an apple that feel apart from the tree?

Yes i am sure he would fee even more disgusted looking at that small baby apple that fell from a tree . it also has a right to live and I wish the stomach was kept full always , so that we dont have to bother to kill or eat a plant .

 

[zakirs]

@IVoIIIoVI

Do you know you are acting like a 6 year old kid ? .. threatening and lying aren't the qualities one would expect froma good muslim.Try to be as nice as possible while putting your point forward.

 

[IVoIIIoVI]

@IVoIIIoVI

Do you know you are acting like a 6 year old kid ? .. threatening and lying aren't the qualities one would expect froma good muslim.Try to be as nice as possible while putting your point forward.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you speak of: where did I lie?

 

[Fטлку]

I also have an F350 pickup truck.

Which is relevant to this discussion because...?

Actually, VagSoul has not posted since I said that. Shame. And I do need an excuse, because I have the day off and my wife wants me to stay home, but she knows I always keep my word, so if I show her this thread and VagSoul posts more she can't get angry. Please post, VS. Don't worry about the birds. They won't feel a thing.

In case you haven't noticed, VegSoul is a limited member and thus can't use the invisibility mode. Which means s/he has left.

btw, My dad has a gun too. I wonder if he would mind if I borrow it..He probably won't since I'm not planning to harm anything with emotions or feelings..<_<

Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack this thread :embarrass

 

[IVoIIIoVI]

Which is relevant to this discussion because...?

In case you haven't noticed, VegSoul is a limited member and thus can't use the invisibility mode. Which means s/he has left.[/QUOTE]

I have seen it here since I made the post and it has not responded, which means, unfortunately, I will have to stay with my wife today.

btw, My dad has a gun too. I wonder if he would mind if I borrow it..He probably won't since I'm not planning to harm anything with emotions or feelings..<_<

Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack this thread :embarrass[/COLOR]

Birds don't really have emotions. You can cut one's head off and it still runs around - they're just machines covered in feathers.

And sisters + guns is a bad idea.

 

[Vito]

There is nothing to debate since its arguments are entirely emotional. When it makes a logical argument, I will then refute it.

So until then, maybe you should refrain from making anymore posts just out of respect for the op and the people who are trying to actually contribute to the thread.

 

[Alpha Dude]

Lol, I don't know about anybody else, but I found IVoIIIoVI's posts funny. Childish humour ftw

It's clear the OP has an anti-meat agenda which he or she is trying to spread. Presenting it as the 'compassionate choice' is not exactly going to be taken happily by muslims when meat isn't forbiden in Islam, but rather even encouraged on certain days.

I also agree with Airforce when he says vegsoul is too sensitive.

 

[Civilsed]

I'm going to go out with my shotgun this afternoon, and for every post you make, kill a bird.

Asalam Alaikum,

Can i ask the purpose of shooting birds, Obviously it has not been slaughtered according to Islam therefore cannot eat it or are you just taking life from fun???

 

[IVoIIIoVI]

Asalam Alaikum,

Can i ask the purpose of shooting birds, Obviously it has not been slaughtered according to Islam therefore cannot eat it or are you just taking life from fun???

The gryphon loves chukar meat; I, of course, do not eat it. From what I've heard it's not very good.

 

[Fטлку]

I have seen it here since I made the post and it has not responded, which means, unfortunately, I will have to stay with my wife today.

My heart goes out to her. You still have 25 birds to shoot though, don't you?

Birds don't really have emotions. You can cut one's head off and it still runs around - they're just machines covered in feathers.

I won't go there. I used to love birds. Had like 25 or something.. imsad

And sisters + guns is a bad idea.

Maniac+Gun=good idea?

 

[aamirsaab]

Asalam Alaikum,

Can i ask the purpose of shooting birds, Obviously it has not been slaughtered according to Islam therefore cannot eat it or are you just taking life from fun???

Oh come on guys, he's messing with you. It's called dead-pan.

Anyway, meat is good for you. If you don't have any meat, how will you get your protein? It's important to have a balanced diet. Like steak and potatoes. or chicken and spuds.

Spinach and aloo is always good tho; uber vegetarian meal AND it tastes awesome.

This being said, I do understand some of the emotion from OP in regards to animal treatment. Which is exactly why in Islam we are to treat them extremely well and not violate their rights.

 

[Predator]

It's clear the OP has an anti-meat agenda which he or she is trying to spread. .

Fair enough assumption judging by the username and also the fact 4/5 threads started by him have all been about the same topic - vegetarianism