What an amazing trip I went on! I cannot believe the evil of humanity... :-(

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Kittygyal said:
Greetings.
^ Nazis are kinda even worse.
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True, but we should not even give credence to them by judging who was worse. They were so evil, they wanted to be worse. Therefore, we shouldn't give them what they want. We know they are worse, but we should focus on how they will pay for their crimes, and they were destroyed (although some youth think its "cool" to be "Neo" Nazis and hate Jews, arabs, blacks and claim this never happend)
 
Kittygyal said:
Salamualikum.
Erm. Sis we care about 'OTHERS', see how many of these lot lost there loves ones, been hurt and been forced to shave there head && take there clothes of how would you feel if that happened to you?? ASTGAFIRULLAH! :cry:

just think what if we was in that possition ya allah save us from evil amin.

some of these ladies had long hair && the men dragged there hair && gave them a bold. && they were shed into tears.

Ma'assalama
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Derrrrr.......wat u on about.......?????

Thats exactly wat i meant......SHOW SOME SENSITIVITY!' instead of talking about polar bears!

and it WAS the nazis doing this!!!!
 
SUMMAYAH said:
Derrrrr.......wat u on about.......?????

Thats exactly wat i meant......SHOW SOME SENSITIVITY!' instead of talking about polar bears!

and it WAS the nazis doing this!!!!
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Its okay, I do not think she meant anything by it. An interesting story: A man when he enetered the death camp (his family died there) for the first time since he was liberated, began laughing. He was in such shock he could not do anything except respond that way, because all the rest of his emtions destroyed. He was feeling so much pain that his laughs became cries eventually and it was very sad.

We all react to pain differently.
 
SUMMAYAH said:
Derrrrr.......wat u on about.......?????

Thats exactly wat i meant......SHOW SOME SENSITIVITY!' instead of talking about polar bears!

and it WAS the nazis doing this!!!!
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Salamualikum.
Take it easy dudette am sowiee mrs Summy, you misunderstood i was telling you just imagine if we were in there position.

I was kinda being 'sarcastic'

Yes i know it was the Nazis
Ma'assalama:)
 
Peace be upon those who follow guidance,

How can u talk about polar bears i feel +o(

:'( :(

Thanks for sharing :(

I jus' dunno what to say, the pic of the gas chamber actually is designed like how a shower room would look though :(

Why were they tatoo'ed by the way and why was their hair removed, answer if possible!

Did nobody question why they did this, or why they might need a shower in the middle of a journey.

Answer if you can please. Tc
 
lavikor201 said:
True, but we should not even give credence to them by judging who was worse. They were so evil, they wanted to be worse. Therefore, we shouldn't give them what they want. We know they are worse, but we should focus on how they will pay for their crimes, and they were destroyed (although some youth think its "cool" to be "Neo" Nazis and hate Jews, arabs, blacks and claim this never happend)
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Greetings.
Ya indeed, there just as bad as each other to behonest

Take care
 
Kittygyal said:
Salamualikum.
Take it easy dudette am sowiee mrs Summy, you misunderstood i was telling you just imagine if we were in there position.

I was kinda being 'sarcastic'

Yes i know it was the Nazis
Ma'assalama:)
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Sowee sis......u wanna share a can of red bull?:)
 
lavikor201 said:
Its okay, I do not think she meant anything by it. An interesting story: A man when he enetered the death camp (his family died there) for the first time since he was liberated, began laughing. He was in such shock he could not do anything except respond that way, because all the rest of his emtions destroyed. He was feeling so much pain that his laughs became cries eventually and it was very sad.

We all react to pain differently.
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I'm so sorry to hear that.......
I guess we take our freedom for granted........
 
Why were they tatoo'ed by the way and why was their hair removed, answer if possible!

Did nobody question why they did this, or why they might need a shower in the middle of a journey.
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They were loaded on to trains to be what thy were told was "relocation", then they ended up at the camps, and to demonize them and make them all look alike and humiliate them they shaved there heads. They tatooed them with numbers so the gaurds would not feel bad when killing a person and filling out the form. (the nazis kept records which is the proof against any holocuast denier) It is easier to shoot a man named "483674636" isntead of Mordechai Anilevitch, for example. They made them into less then human.

When the arrived at the Death Camp those that were deemded not strong to be slaves were sent to get a "shower" so they would "not get desease". What would u do if someone said this and pointed a gun at you? Just pray there tellin u the truth.
 
so sad what innocent people had to go through. youd think these people would recognise what their ancestors went through and not do the same to the palestinians. only difference is the jewish holocaust cant be stopped, its in the past...the palestinians, the guantanamo detainess and the like they are going through this same type of torture if not worse right as i type!
may Allah help them :cry:
 
amani said:
so sad what innocent people had to go through. youd think these people would recognise what their ancestors went through and not do the same to the palestinians. only difference is the jewish holocaust cant be stopped, its in the past...the palestinians, the guantanamo detainess and the like they are going through this same type of torture if not worse right as i type!
may Allah help them :cry:
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Ameen to the dua.

And you have a point sister.
 
SUMMAYAH said:
Sowee sis......u wanna share a can of red bull?:)
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salamualikum.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PLEASEEEEEEEE.

But i guess out of this thread will be nice, 'coz i don't wana head of to off-topic posts :-[

Ma'assalama
 
amani said:
so sad what innocent people had to go through. youd think these people would recognise what their ancestors went through and not do the same to the palestinians. only difference is the jewish holocaust cant be stopped, its in the past...the palestinians, the guantanamo detainess and the like they are going through this same type of torture if not worse right as i type!
may Allah help them :cry:
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I'm sorry and I do feel very bad for Palestinians who are in such trouble, but the Palestinians are not being gased and made into slaves. Yes the wall is wrong, as is the checkpoints but palestinaisn are blwoing up buses as well and well... israelis are not taking out Palestinains fromt here homes and shooting them, enslaving them or gasing them and then burning the ashes.

Anyway, we should not bring this off topic.


I have a picture of a huge pile of ashes (a few stories high) in a building with a viewing post if u wish.

would it be inappropriate?
 
Greetings
^ Also the palestine aint being forced to have there hair shaved of now are they?? MAY ALLAH HELP EVERYONE! :cry: amin
ma'assalama
 
i dnt no what to say.....when i hear these things....it makes me sad...

may allah guide this world from anything like this or even a inch close to this ever happening again.

we humans need to look after each other....regardless of our race, gender or religion ....
 
I went to one of the camps couple of years ago, during secondary school. i cant remeba which one it was though cos i went to france and germany in the same week. i still remeber it though. i did burst in to tears when i went. :cry: there were still gunshot holes in the walls where people were shot. we also shown where sick people that they did keep were given to the nazi doctors to experiment. it was very disturbing. :cry: i also saw the gas rooms and the bunks were they had to sleep.
 
lavikor,
it is amazing to me how many younger people know nothing about the holocaust.
the germans built on centuries of christian anti-semitism.
once a group is viewed as sub-human, it makes killing them easy.
i am haunted by the image of eichmann in his glass cage at his trial - he looked like the guy next door.
i have known survivors. i don't know how they kept their humanity and their minds intact.
an anecdote that gave me chills:
a survivor at eichmann's trial fainted. later he was asked if it was because he was reliving his expeience. his reply was no - he passed out because he suddenly saw the eichmann in himself.
these monstrous acts, are obviously not alien to human nature - the potential is obviously there. like the hindus in gujarat who ran out in the streets and butchered their neighbours, in some cases, people they had known for years.
the really frightening thing about the holocaust was to learn that the germans are not monsters or aberations.
lavikor,
i know you are religious - did you ever have doubts when you contemplated the murder of 1 million jewish children simply because they were jews?
 
lavikor,
i know you are religious - did you ever have doubts when you contemplated the murder of 1 million jewish children simply because they were jews?
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No. But you may have a different opinion. They are martyrs, and it is very sad, but I believer everything has a purpose which will elevate ones soul, or someone can make the wrong choice and fail to do so. I cannot understand why it happend, however, I know it did, and just as when I was in math class not understanding exactly how to do "division" or what the point of it even was, I know its uses, and why I had to learn it, later. I cannot imagine that I can comprehend the events of this world today.

Of course I cannot imagine the pain which happend and the entire world must learn from this...
 
lavikor201 said:
No. But you may have a different opinion. They are martyrs, and it is very sad, but I believer everything has a purpose which will elevate ones soul, or someone can make the wrong choice and fail to do so. I cannot understand why it happend, however, I know it did, and just as when I was in math class not understanding exactly how to do "division" or what the point of it even was, I know its uses, and why I had to learn it, later. I cannot imagine that I can comprehend the events of this world today.

Of course I cannot imagine the pain which happend and the entire world must learn from this...
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no, i don't disagree with this at all as i also believe in god. there are many questions that we cannot know the answers to and much that simply defies comprehension and this is one of them. i asked because i know it has created a crisis of faith in some people and they have solved it differently.
sadly, i see no indication that the world has learned anything.
thank you for sharing your experiences.
 
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