What bit of music is haram?

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is it the vocals/lyrics or the instrumental?...........
 
the instrumental/the beat.............
are all instruments haram?........I heard that..........String instruments, Wind isntruments and something else........but I'm not sure..........
 
Salamualikum.
Erm everything i guess. Well you know nowadays music lyrics are just out of order plus they have instruments which are forbidden in Islam.

Listen to some next level all they have is swears think they can rap by just moving the bass up an down! Listen to Qura'an you'l NEVER get bored of that

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Question:
Is it prohibited to listen to music which sound was produced by mouth but sounds like an instrument which is unspecific (i.e. no instruments are used)?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

We put this question to Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Jibreen (may Allaah preserve him) who answered as follows:

In our opinion it is haraam because it sounds like, and could be taking the place of, musical instruments, which are forbidden and which distract people from remembering Allaah. So whatever takes their place is also haraam. And Allaah knows best.

Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Jibreen
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Question:
What is the ruling on Islamic nasheeds that are free of music?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

The clear saheeh texts indicate in a number of ways that it is permissible to recite poetry and listen to it. It was narrated in saheeh reports that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his noble Companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) listened to verse, recited it (as nasheed) and asked others to recite it, both when they were travelling and when they stayed at home, in their gatherings and whilst they were working, individually, as in the case of Hassaan ibn Thaabit, ‘Aamir ibn al-Akwa’ and Anjashah (may Allaah be pleased with them), and in unison, as in the hadeeth of Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) which describes the digging of the ditch (al-khandaq). Anas said:

When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw how exhausted and hungry we were, he said (in verse):

“O Allaah, there is no life except the life of the Hereafter, so forgive the Ansaar and the Muhaajireen.”

And they said in response:

“We are the ones who have pledged allegiance to Muhammad, to make jihaad for as long as we live.”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3/1043)

And in gatherings too: Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated with a hasan isnaad that Abu Salamah ibn ‘Abd al-Rahmaan said: “The Companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not speak in devious tones or in a soft manner. They used to recite verses in their gatherings, denouncing the affairs of their jaahiliyyah, but if it was the matter of their religion, they would become very serious and cautious (8/711).

This evidence indicates that nasheeds are permissible, whether recited individually or in unison. The word nasheed in Arabic means raising the voice when reciting verse and making the voice sound beautiful and gentle.

There are conditions to which attention must be paid with regard to this matter:

Not using forbidden musical instruments in nasheed.

Not doing it too much or making it the focus of the Muslim’s mind, occupying all his time, or neglecting obligatory duties because of it.

Nasheed should not be recited by women, or include haraam or obscene speech.

They should not resemble the tunes of the people of immorality and promiscuity.

They should be free of vocal effects that produce sounds like those of musical instruments.

They should not have moving tunes which make the listener feel “high” as happens to those who listen to songs. This is the case with many of the nasheeds which appear nowadays, so that the listeners no longer pay any attention to the good meaning of the words, because they are so entranced by the tunes. And Allaah is the Source of strength.

References:

Fath al-Baari, 10/553-554-562-563
Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah, 8/711
Al-Qaamoos al-Muheet, 411

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Bangsta said:
If Islam forbids Music why do we have nasheeds. :S
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Salamualikum.
Well dude nowadays people wrecked the meaning of 'Nashids' i mean there were no MUSIC and weird instruments before but people make there OWN rulings up init!

Just stick with Qura'an :thumbs_up

Ma'assalama
 
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is it the vocals/lyrics or the instrumental?...........
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Oh sorry, if you're talking about any random music like Rap/Pop or whatever...then even if you just take out the instrumental and leave the vocals..it'll still be haraam. It has to have good meaning to it...and Allaah Knows Best.
 
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jzcasejz said:
Oh sorry, if you're talking about any random music like Rap/Pop or whatever...then even if you just take out the instrumental and leave the vocals..it'll still be haraam. It has to have good meaning to it...and Allaah Knows Best.
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Bear in mind that Not all Rap lyrics are to do with swearing and all that.........
 
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Bear in mind that Not all Rap lyrics are to do with swearing and all that.........
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Yeah I know, but still. The majority of the rap I personally heard was about this "Gangster" culture (or least they claim to be Gangsta :rollseyes). There's not much benefit in it for a Muslim...anyone can see that.

But anyways never mind, whatever's best for you. =]
 
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Yeah I know, but still. The majority of the rap I personally heard was about this "Gangster" culture (or least they claim to be Gangsta :rollseyes). There's not much benefit in it for a Muslim...anyone can see that.

But anyways never mind, whatever's best for you. =]
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Salamualikum.
True :-[ :phew :exhausted :-[
Ma'assalama
 
jzcasejz said:
Yeah I know, but still. The majority of the rap I personally heard was about this "Gangster" culture (or least they claim to be Gangsta :rollseyes). There's not much benefit in it for a Muslim...anyone can see that.

But anyways never mind, whatever's best for you. =]
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Rap/Hip hop back in the day was better... Rap/hip hop now is messed up.. For example Tupac... talks about the struggles he went through and we can relate to that.. which will be a positive influence to us..but not all of his songs are positive... but some rap music are positive.. I also listen to conscious reggae... Even if I listen to these kinds of music.. I'm always optimistic, I never try to be a negative person..
 
I Wanna Know This.....coz For Some Reason.....ppl Jus Say Music Is Haram And They Don't Know What They Are Talking About..........

There Are Some Rap Songs....i Can Listen 2 And Make My Cry Lol Not Really Cry But Sad....and A Lil Tearz Comin Out....D**N Lol It Takes A Pro 2 Do That
 
It is the instruments which make any thing haraam, whther its meant to be a nasheed *cough* Sami Yusuf *cough* or a normal song. However, the lyrics also make it haraam, considering the songs of today are mostly about love and other 'suggestive' topics. The lyrics which are okay, for example those which tell stories/give advice, could simply be read to understand like poems, there is no need to actually listen to them with the accompanied music.
On a side note, the only halaal instrument in Islam is the daff.
 
I've heard many different things about the haram of music...............

One I read is: Many Muslims believe that string and wind instruments should be avoided in Islam

Another thing I read was its forbidden but didn't say what bit exactly

and I also read this

Other Muslims retort that music is forbidden only if it leads the believer into sins like drinking alcohol and associating with deviant persons.

Music can be a harmless accompaniment to family or community celebrations or to public devotions.

The caliphs, the leaders of the Islamic empire, entertained noted musicians[citation needed]. Respected philosophers such as Al-Kīndī, Al-Farābi, Avicenna, and Safi al-Din encouraged the practice of music through their study of music theory.
 
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the instrumentals. but the lyrics could also be haraam depending on what the song is about.and most of toady's songs are all about zina or partying or drugs and gang banging.
nasheeds are fine thought(unless they are with by haraam instrument such as guitar or piano)

that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."(No. -sahih bukhari)
 
rania2820 said:
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the instrumentals. but the lyrics could also be haraam depending on what the song is about.and most of toady's songs are all about zina or partying or drugs and gang banging.
nasheeds are fine thought(unless they are with by haraam instrument such as guitar or piano)

that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."(No. -sahih bukhari)
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I never heard piano was haram, onlt instruments I heard was haram is...umm String & Wind instruments.........

Can anyone confirm all the instruments that are haram please...
 
Salamualikum.
Am sure the thread maker gets the message now because it's been said several times so should this thread be closed now?
Ma'assalama
 
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