What Conversations Are We Not Having as Muslims?

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had previously a criminal record for selling drugs, yet you still insist you are in the right.

What people have done in the past shouldn't be mentioned or brought up. When a person makes Tawbah sincerely, Allaah Ta`aalaa forgives them. It is thereafter sinful to bring up something a person had done which they made Tawbah for. All people sin.

والسلام
 
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What people have done in the past shouldn't be mentioned or brought up. When a person makes Tawbah sincerely, Allaah Ta`aalaa forgives them. It is thereafter sinful to bring up something a person had done which they made Tawbah for. All people sin.

والسلام

Don't worry brother, she's just making it up, i was never arrested for selling drugs, they used to have people encourage me to sell them whenever i tried to gwt out of the game and had me informed that i was under surveillance long before i started practicing Islam, told me they'd "found something in my blood and that i had a camera in my head, but would only arrest me if i did anything too obvious". i was arrested for credit card fraud in college days and even then -interestingly- they chose to charge me with "deception" (dejel in Arabic) despite it being an out of the ordinary selection considering the commonly used descriptions such as fraud or theft.

After i started practicing it was for hitting stalkers and prodders who called me a terrorist, then having me charged with armed robbery, the police would also falsify reports and judges would refuse to look at the evidence despite being offered undeniable proof that the charges were false. A fine with a long suspended sentence always keeps a man cautious.

Anyways, now they give me fake medical reports when i complain of headaches and pain behind my right eye and even more interestingly, tell me that the normal ultrasound machines can't detect anything in the skull even through the eye socket cavity, then give me reports like this:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/abz2000123/Mobile Uploads/20160902_190350_zps8aqewdcz.jpg

Based on this:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/abz2000123/Mobile Uploads/20160902_190434_zpsq78gsupp.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcT1KPuNugg

Takes deception to a whole different level i'm sure any honest doctor free of conflicts of interest would agree.
 
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:bism: (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)

:sl: (Peace be upon you)

I do apologize if I'd misunderstood; however, I do distinctly remember you writing something in your posts about class e offense and drug-selling and mentioning a criminal record. Regardless of whether or not I misunderstood, I am trying to make the point to have you stop grinding your ax against U.K. and misleading others into supporting terrorism just because you are not happy with the U.K. or U.S.

I hope the point is now sufficiently clarified for you to understand.

:wa: (And peace be upon you)

Don't worry brother, she's just making it up, i was never arrested for selling drugs, they used to have people encourage me to sell them whenever i tried to gwt out of the game and had me informed that i was under surveillance long before i started practicing Islam, told me they'd "found something in my blood and that i had a camera in my head, but would only arrest me if i did anything too obvious".

:wa:
 
:bism: (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)

:sl: (Peace be upon you)


@Search, if you think it's not possible, don't waste my time or yours asking questions about half baked solutions whilst the secularist puppets roam around with death squads.

I was not asking for solutions. I was asking questions about conversations that we as Muslims need to be having. Yet even if I had asked for a solution, your solution is no solution; it's the way to fast-track the destruction of the ummah.

I'm living through it and have held meetings and met and talked with people who've shown me live shotgun rounds in in their limbs from police guns because they attended non-violent protests, police trained by britain and america's governments, who have tortured people to death, pulled out fingernails, thrown dead bodies of people who dared to stand up to tyranny on their parents' doorsteps, i migrated after suffering harm, openly trumped up charges, and harrassment at the hands of the british government and was turned away from the train station by puppet police on the first long march protest in dhaka, and was in the midst of events when they mowed down thousands of peaceful protesters in motijeel the day before i was to attend the second one whilst british and american newspapers droned on about "extremism on the rise in bangladesh" and made "taliban state" slurs so please don't lecture me on the state of the Muslim Ummah, they are prepared to stand and rise up together, it's the puppet scholars who are content to live under Godless secular states and tailor their fatwas to suit the likes of their secularist puppet dictators that have the problem of shouting down anyone who bothers to make an effort.

I believe you when you say that you suffered police harassment in the U.K., but if you're the way that you are with us on IB, I'm not at all surprised; because frankly you come across a radicalized individual who is very intolerant and wishes people who disagree with you harm, and I'm sure that this would have been evident even to the U.K. police.

Ulema (scholars) who are near to secular government and not completely sincere towards Islam are just one element of the problem; the biggest problem, however, I'd say are short-sighted people like you who are intent on destroying both Muslims and non-Muslims just for the sake of having political power in dunya (world).

And don't keep trying to bait me and skew my words please, i presented a reasonable and logical proposition that will bring to light what is passing in the hearts of the naysayers and also undo the propaganda of the saboteurs, if the group in syria is a real Islamic State, accept it if you claim to be Muslim, if it isn't, then call for establishment and work in that direction,
I'm not trying to skew your words; I'm trying to show you the end-game which you don't seem to understand. I already told you what Prophet :saws: (peace and blessings be upon him) said in regards to your foolish dream and therefore leave your political aspiration or be prepared to suffer the consequences of rejecting prophetic advice.

if anyone who's looking for an excuse to murder Muslims in the name of targeting first "assad" then "isis" (and everybody who's not drunk already knows that the british, french and american governments have been seeking and actively working to cause turmoil and sectarian war in the region for over a decade) tries to get in the way, they'll be exposed as open enemies if Islam. Working with the kuffar to slowly work their way through the propaganda maze is futile so just stop trying to fool me already, they show their hand once in a while with gleeful reports of "ripping of burka, shaving off beards, and celebrating freedom from "isis", those of us who've been on the receiving end of the tyrants' lash already see through the lies of "british democratic values" "not a war on Islam" and the incremental steps in this hateful and deceitful war.

The West is not free of its problems; no one said it is. Yes, the West has tried to create frivolous and illogical laws like the burkini ban and others like it ostensibly to try to fight against the burqa, beards, and other things Islamic, because in actuality they are trying to fight extremists like you and don't know how to do so.

My proposition stands ..... miss geller.....

Lol, well, you do love your provocations, don't you?

I suppose you were not content with calling brother Zafran on this thread a kaffir for disagreeing with you and now must imply so with me as well. How nice and predictable of you. Just remember that if the takfeer (calling of a Muslim kaffir) is erroneous, then it reverts to the person doing so, my takfeeri friend.

:wa: (And peace be upon you)
 
I mentioned the fact that after i left the U.K with the understanding that i'd no longer be harassed, the same person who'd told me i had a camera in my head back in 2002 whilst we dealt in ounces and grams was sent to try and get me to send kilo blocks of uncut heroin to the U.K in exchange for weapons for the cause, i knew they were playing the puppet government against us anyway and weren't really trying to help - other than find a new way to keep me blackmailed, but i could see he was under pressure so i didn't go ballistic on him, distanced myaelf slowly and kindly.


23.*But she in whose house he was, sought to seduce him from his (true) self: she fastened the doors, and said: "Now come, thou (dear one)!" He said: "(Allah) forbid! truly (thy husband) is my lord! he made my sojourn agreeable! truly to no good come those who do wrong!"
24.*And (with passion) did she desire him, and he would have desired her, but that he saw the evidence of his Lord: thus (did We order) that We might turn away from him (all) evil and shameful deeds: for he was one of Our servants, sincere and purified.
25.*So they both raced each other to the door, and she tore his shirt from the back: they both found her lord near the door. She said: "What is the (fitting) punishment for one who formed an evil design against thy wife, but prison or a grievous chastisement?"
26.*He said: "It was she that sought to seduce me - from my (true) self." And one of her household saw (this) and bore witness, (thus):- "If it be that his shirt is rent from the front, then is her tale true, and he is a liar!
27.*"But if it be that his shirt is torn from the back, then is she the liar, and he is telling the truth!"
28.*So when he saw his shirt,- that it was torn at the back,- (her husband) said: "Behold! It is a snare of you women! truly, mighty is your snare!



No need to pretend to be sorry, it's to be expected when one states the truth:


To the rest of your comment, my reply is the same as before, a person cannot claim to be a Muslim whilst satisfied and content with being ruled by other than the law of God and not wanting to live in a community which upholds the ideals of the Islamic way of life.
I know what you're about so i won't pretend to try and convince you, but anyone who knows about how societies are run would know that community plays a big part in deen (way of life). Islam encompasses all aspects of life.

To pretend that the secularist kuffar corrupt governments haven't been attempting to sabotage Islamic unity and aren't conspiring against Islam whilst in the same breath claiming that Muslims are powerless to establish khilafah and that i'll get people killed if i try to work to establish khilaafah says a lot about your hidden motives.

It is simple, if it's not a war against Islam, where's the difficulty?
Are you worried that the kuffar wont be able to rob and murder Muslims and pillage their resources so easily if Muslims unite and pool their resources and strengths together? Are you afraid that you can't call them terrorists anymore if they have a legitimate and recognized government? Don't get me wrong but individual Muslims do sometimes respond to tyranny against other Muslims singularly or in small groups, but they get called terrorists for obeying Allah and flouting the false rules of the corrupt secularist taskmaster puppet governments they are forced to live under, having a legitimate government would go a long way towards positive advancement and clarity in times of confusion.

I'm getting a headache and need to sleep it's 8am here, will respond if anyone makes any sensible comment when i get up inshaAllah.


Here's a song to keep you entertained in the meantime, you know like they have when you phone o2 or southern electric and you're on hold:

 
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On the thread I believe Muslims need to be more self critical about our cultures and some practices, The widespread belief in conspiracy theories, the unIslamic practices like Honour killings FGM, corruption and bad governance.

The sectarian fighting and a more critical look at Islamic History of people that were not so Islamic.

excellent

balanced ,intelligent and non conspiratorial introspective voices need to become louder and more prominent
 

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