What For Muslims: What do we mean when we say " I respect your faith"???

[AhlaamBella]

Re: What For Muslims: What do we mean when we say " I respect your faith"???

I agree brother. Yet, I always have Da'wah in mind. Regardless of what I feel inside, I won't start insulting and getting angry because that will surely drive a person away from Islam rather than towards it

 

[AntiKarateKid]

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I want a pony

I DON'T respect your wish.

 

[MustafaMc]

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Perhaps then you mean that you respect their "devotion" and not their faith which used as a noun is another thing altogether. Allah never put down people who strive hard, just what they are striving towards so that they may redirect their efforts towards truth.

Yes, I respect the apparent sincerity of a non-Muslims belief without respecting that belief and the apprarent purity of their life while realizing that it may all be for naught since it is outside of Islam.

 

[MustafaMc]

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Think in terms of the Negus of Abyssinia who gave the Muslim immigrants refuge and refused to hand them over to the Meccans despite the fact that their faith was directly counter to his own regarding the Sonship of Jesus. Don't you think that he respected the Muslim's devotion to their religion? In fact the Qur'an tells us that the closest to us in our devotion is the Christian.

 

[Uthman]

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Think in terms of the Negus of Abyssinia who gave the Muslim immigrants refuge and refused to hand them over to the Meccans despite the fact that their faith was directly counter to his own regarding the Sonship of Jesus. Don't you think that he respected the Muslim's devotion to their religion? In fact the Qur'an tells us that the closest to us in our devotion is the Christian.

If I remember correctly, the Negus claimed that the teachings of 'Isa and those of the Muslims were one and the same. Did that mean that he didn't worship 'Isa (pbuh)?

 

[MustafaMc]

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If I remember correctly, the Negus claimed that the teachings of 'Isa and those of the Muslims were one and the same. Did that mean that he didn't worship 'Isa (pbuh)?

No, the claim against the Muslims by the Meccans before the Negus was that the Muslims did not believe that Jesus was the Son of God in order to turn him against them. This implied that it was understood that the Negus did believe that Jesus was the Son of God.

 

[Makky]

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Think in terms of the Negus of Abyssinia who gave the Muslim immigrants refuge and refused to hand them over to the Meccans despite the fact that their faith was directly counter to his own regarding the Sonship of Jesus. Don't you think that he respected the Muslim's devotion to their religion?

Please read my post in this thread.

In fact the Qur'an tells us that the closest to us in our devotion is the Christian.

Quran never tells us that the closest devottion is the christians, Can you bring a verse?

 

[MustafaMc]

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Please read my post in this thread.

I have read it twice and I don't see what you are getting on about. I never said that I respected any other religion. I once was a Christian and I was sincere in my faith. I can recognize that same sincerity of belief in some Christians, and I respect that they sincerely believe that they are following the Truth. I also recognize some Christians as living a very moral life and I respect that as being infinitely better than an immoral life.

Please, clarify where you disagree with what I have written.

Quran never tells us that the closest devottion is the christians, Can you bring a verse?

Qur'an 5:82 You will find the most violent in enmity to the believers are the Jews and the mushrikin (pagan Arabs); and nearest in affection to the believers are those who say: "We are Christians." That is because among them there are men that are priests and monks, who do not behave arrogantly.

 

[Makky]

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I have read it twice and I don't see what you are getting on about. I never said that I respected any other religion. I once was a Christian and I was sincere in my faith. I can recognize that same sincerity of belief in some Christians, and I respect that they sincerely believe that they are following the Truth. I also recognize some Christians as living a very moral life and I respect that as being infinitely better than an immoral life.

Please, clarify where you disagree with what I have written

My Dear brother no disagreement i just wanted you to read my post thats it.

.Qur'an 5:82 You will find the most violent in enmity to the believers are the Jews and the mushrikin (pagan Arabs); and nearest in affection to the believers are those who say: "We are Christians." That is because among them there are men that are priests and monks, who do not behave arrogantly.

I was sure that you will bring this verse .i guess the known misunderstanding might be from the verse translation , anyway!
nearest in affection doesn't mean nearest in devotion
the arabic word in the verse is : Mawadah : which means friendliness/love/like/cordiality.
one more thing i'm not sure if you mean by the word devotion faith or worshipping or what.
find me an excuse.. i'm an Arab :statisfie

 

[MustafaMc]

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If I remember correctly, the Negus claimed that the teachings of 'Isa and those of the Muslims were one and the same. Did that mean that he didn't worship 'Isa (pbuh)?

I reread the hadith and you may be right.

http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/negus.html

Meantime the news of what the Negus had said about Jesus spread among the people, and they were troubled and came out against him asking for an explanation, and accusing him of having left their religion. He thereupon sent to Ja'far and his companions and made ready boats for them and told them to embark and be ready to set sail if necessary. Then he took a parchment and wrote on it:

“He testifieth that there is no god but God and that Muhammad is His slave and His Messenger and that Jesus the son of Mary is His slave and His Messenger and His Spirit and His Word which He cast unto Mary."​

Then he put it beneath his gown and went out to his people who were assembled to meet him. And he said them: "Abyssinians, have I not the best claim to be your king?" They said that he had. “Then what think ye of my life amongst you?" “It hath been the best of lives," they answered. "Then what is it that troubleth you?" he said. "Thou hast left our religion," they said, "and hast maintained that Jesus is a slave." “Then what say ye of Jesus?” he asked. “We say that he is the son of God," they answered. Then he put his hand on his breast, pointing to where the parchment was hidden and testified to his belief in “this”, which they took to refer to their words. So they were satisfied and went away, for they were happy under his rule, and only wished to be reassured; and the Negus sent word to Ja'far and his companions that they could disembark and go back to their dwellings' where they went on living as before, in comfort and security.

It seems that the Negus was a "closet Muslim" in his heart and that his followers did not know it.

 

[MustafaMc]

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My Dear brother no disagreement i just wanted you to read my post thats it.

I understand and I am in full agreement.

nearest in affection doesn't mean nearest in devotion
the arabic word in the verse is : Mawadah : which means friendliness/love/like/cordiality.

Yes, you are correct about the meaning. My understanding of the verse is better now. Thanks.

one more thing i'm not sure if you mean by the word devotion faith or worshipping or what.
find me an excuse.. i'm an Arab :statisfie

I don't mean their religion or their worship as I believe that they are not what Jesus (as) taught his disciples. I mean that I believe that they are following what they believe is the Truth the best they can. Since guidance comes but from Allah, may He guide them to the Truth and reveal the falsehood to them.