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AssalamuAlaykum

Sure I have...but not all can counsel and give advice as good as others...All of them can have the 'Ilm but they'll all sympathise in different ways and have different veiws, sometimes its not enough for a person to hear the Islamic take on things....they want and need genuine sympathy, but I guess we're all different and have our preferences. I mean ask Z...Something he said Masha'Allah made me think about the scholars and the different levels they're at in terms of explaining things to others and helping them with personal matters. I'm not judging them but as always its just an opinion.

WassalamuAlaykum
 
^ you know what the thing is, if you go to someone who doesnt understand islaam well for councelling he may give you advice which will lead you astray. but the one with islamic knowledge will always take the boundaries into consideration...


Assalamu Alaikum
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
^ you know what the thing is, if you go to someone who doesnt understand islaam well for councelling he may give you advice which will lead you astray. but the one with islamic knowledge will always take the boundaries into consideration...


Assalamu Alaikum
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anonymous said:
I could not agree more!:sunny:

im not so sure whats more comforting than an islamic point of view :sunny: its beautiful.
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AssalamuAlaykum

LOL! I'm not putting the Islamic point of view down at all...you misunderstand me, I'm actually talking about the person carrying out the counselling...weather or not they have the skills is in no way dependant upon their 'Ilm of the deen as they are two different branches of knowledge altogether...

WassalamuAlaykum
 
...54M4K4H... said:
AssalamuAlaykum

LOL! I'm not putting the Islamic point of view down at all...you misunderstand me, I'm actually talking about the person carrying out the counselling...weather or not they have the skills is in no way dependant upon their 'Ilm of the deen as they are two different branches of knowledge altogether...

WassalamuAlaykum
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ad-deen un naseeha , if you cant help out a brother or sister in need how has your knowledge helped you?!


get me?!
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
ad-deen un naseeha , if you cant help out a brother or sister in need how has your knowledge helped you?!


get me?!
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AssalamuAlaykum

If you're not the sort of person who can sympathise with others or relate to them well...or you feel you cannot empathise...or find the words to make them feel better and help them...

Not talking about anybody in particular but...

Grr forget it.

WassalamuAlaykum
 
...54M4K4H... said:
AssalamuAlaykum

LOL! I'm not putting the Islamic point of view down at all...
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i didnt say you were :sunny:

weather or not they have the skills is in no way dependant upon their 'Ilm of the deen as they are two different branches of knowledge altogether...

WassalamuAlaykum
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but I think they come very well together. :sunny:

Gnerally speaking, i dont mean to say that couselling, etc is in anyway a bad or haram thing or anything, and that it shouldnt be studied/ practised.

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...54M4K4H... said:
AssalamuAlaykum



Grr forget it.

WassalamuAlaykum
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agreed !

anyway, most scholars are people with gentle hearts, they love the prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam and follow him, and we all know what a great councellor he was.
mashaAllah
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
the best councellor is a muslim scholar.


correct me if im wrong

Assalamu Alaikum
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If u indulge me, i can shower absurdities & mis-guidences of many "Very Very respcted & trusted" "scholars"............. & my point in saying this is that we should no doubt listen to scholars BUT not believe them blindly & should cross check their "sayings" from Qur'aan & Sunnah. Because in the long run it's Allah & HIS prophet's sunnah that'll salvage us, NOT scholars.
 
sur said:
very right. Likewise muslim women should be encouraged & facilitated to join Medical field in general.
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i couldn't agree more. i am always happy to see a muslim woman entering any medical field - the need is great.
 
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do you even know what a scholar is? what responsibiltites they take on? how much of their time, effort and commtment they put it?

& my point in saying this is that we should no doubt listen to scholars BUT not believe them blindly & should cross check their "sayings" from Qur'aan & Sunnah.
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how on earth are we going to do that when we are "laymens" ourselves. 'Do your own reasearch,' i hear you say. if so, well how on earth do i do that if i disregard the scholars whom i need as my teachers. :rolleyes:

Because in the long run it's Allah & HIS prophet's sunnah that'll salvage us, NOT scholars.
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oh, puhlease!!!! the scholars (thereliable ones im refering to here-not the ones that give an opinion according to 'this day and age' etc) follow Allah and his prophets sunnah. How on earth i am going to be left to interpret the quran and haidth to my own accrd when i have no way to go about it. thats what the scholars are there for. obviously not everyone has the mental capcity to become a schoar to 'check' how 'correct' thier opinions are.

got a qn for you, bro sur, though: if you ever become a scholar, why should anyone follow/trust you, considering you can barely trust anyone else. It sounds like your going to have your own methodology. Why should i take your opinion, Why should you be trusted.
 
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The women in the days of the Prophet (saw) asked counselling from him. I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed now.

Besides, isn't there a hadith that says that there is no shyness when it comes to religion? Or something along the lines of that?

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