What is Women Role in Islam?

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Well said sister Apprender.

I do not like tradition, or culture - unless it's Islamic tradition and culture - and guess what (this is to sweet106) I am proud of this! I am proud to be a Muslim.

Scimi

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

My mistake, I am using my phone so saw half the screen.

Secondly, when I say do your homework, I was referring to child custody! Find out and the come to talk. I want to know your wife's expression! So surprised a woman getting married doesn't know that islamically she no longer has custody!

Thirdly, you stil posted a muslim doing a job other being a wife and mother!

 

[Scimitar]

Gosh, this is too easy...

My mistake, I am using my phone so saw half the screen.

Accepted.

Secondly, when I say do your homework, I was referring to child custody! Find out and the come to talk. I want to know your wife's expression! So surprised a woman getting married doesn't know that islamically she no longer has custody!

Her ex husband doesnt want custody ( he remarried ) and there is no one else to take the child. So, I have accepted the child as my own. I am aware of the laws regarding children in divorces... Don't assume I don't. Smirk.

Thirdly, you stil posted a muslim doing a job other being a wife and mother!

I suggest you learn more about Mairam al Ijliya... You haven't a clue what you are talking about sister.

Scimi

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

You and your wife still nothing know about custody! She is not meant to give him to the father! It is her mother, if not available to auntie, if not available to father's mother, if not available to the father's sisters etc

She is not meant to keep the child! So much for knowing about Islam!

Enjoy sorting the custody!

 

[Scimitar]

I told you I am aware of this law... and I also said

there is no one else to take her.

So get back on topic and admit you don't know what you are talking about... and maybe your heart will open up to actually learn something, rather than just get answers you "want" to hear so that you can feed your ego and therefore, think it is ok to go ahead and do what you want.

You know something? I've answered all your questions, but you are dodging mine... why is that? Cornered feeling again?

Scimi

 

[hussain makki]

i do not know why people ask this question,
women is part of humankind,
men and women are equal in this world,
they are performing what ever they have strenght,
with security in nature,
women is same as responsible as men, in islam,

 

[Scimitar]

Sister Sweet106,

I'm gonna say this for the final time: If you want real answers to your threads opening question - go to page 4 of this thread and download the PDF books I have linked you there... else, you can do the merry-go-round dance... dance til you get dizzy. You might even enjoy it.

I will keep you in my duas, and pray that you don;t feel so jaded about men, and don;t end up a bitter woman. See? I'm actually a very fair man.

Assalaam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu...

Scimi

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

So there is no auntie, no sisters in law, no female relative at all!

Please you were trying to show women can remarry with repercussions by using your d.a.m.n wife as an example!

Don't use your wife as example as you know she rare!

Don't try to feed with rubbish when your wifey is completely different!

Leave my son out in the cold to obey a man ? You are joking!

 

[Scimitar]

Stay single then... and bitter... you obviously don't trust your own family or his family with your child. You have lost your trust in humanity. I fear a very dark road for you... I will most definitely keep you in my duas,

your d.a.m.n wife

and also ask Allah to teach you some manners.

Scimi

EDIT:

Children are focus of gravity in Islamic Family tradition and law. When spouse are together, upbringing their child(ren) is paramount joint responsibility. Not only physical care and health, but emotional, educational, and religious welfare and well being are mutual responsibility.

When spouses separate by divorce or annulment, these welfare responsibilities get also split according to best abilities of each parent. While fathers are vested with financial burden and legal guardianship roles, mothers are given role of physical carer and emotive guardian of child(ren). Inherently, Islamic system balances between multitude levels of child(ren)’s need. In recognition of an infant’s need for female care, all the juristic schools give first preference to a mother’s claim to physical custody of her young child provided that she satisfies all the requirements for a female custodian.

After divorce during the period of the mother’s custody, she is generally entitled to receive custody wages from the father to help her maintain the child. Islamic Jurisprudential inferences Islamic law on custody of children after divorce is based on several hadith relating to how the Prophet sallalahu Alaihe wasallam dealt with cases brought before him. One of the key relevant hadith is the following: According to Amr Ibn Shu'aib, a woman came to the Prophet* and said: 'Truly my belly served as a container for my son here, and my breast served as a skin-bag for him (to drink out of) and my bosom served as a refuge for him; and now his father has divorced me, and he (also) desires to take him away from me.' The Prophet sallalahu Alaihe wasallam said: 'You have a better right to have him, as long as you do not marry again.

Hadith: Ibn Majah - The mother is recognised as generally the fittest person to take care of the children, because of the instinctive love and tenderness she feels for them and her closer contact with them throughout pregnancy, nursing, and childhood. However, if the mother marries again she would generally forfeit her right to custody. However, the period of female custody ends once the child reaches a certain age of custodial transfer. The Hanbali and Shafii schools do not distinguish between girls and boys regarding the duration of female custody. The Hanbalis maintain that the female custodian should have custody from birth until the child reaches the age of seven, at which point he or she may choose between parents. The Shafiis allow female custody until the child reaches the age of discretion and may choose either parent as custodian. The Malikis rule that female custody of a boy shall last until he reaches puberty, and for a girl until she marries. Under the Hanafi School, female custody of a boy ends when he is able to feed, clothe, and cleanse himself. Most Hanafi jurists set this age of independence at seven years, although some set it at nine. Hanafi jurists differ on when a mother’s custody of her daughter ends. Most maintain that the mother’s custody ends when the girl reaches puberty, set at either nine or eleven years of age. However, others allow the mother’s custody to last until the girl reaches the age of womanhood. Conditions of custody Whoever has custody of a child has to abide by conditions concerning residence and Islamic upbringing, to ensure that the child's welfare is properly cared for. The court may, if necessary, enforce these conditions or direct that the child be given to the next eligible custodian. The father should have access to his children, and he remains financially responsible for their maintenance and education even though they may be under the care of their divorced mother or one of her relations. Duration of custody and Transfers The duration of custody varies between the Four Schools of Islamic Jurisprudence as detailed earlier. There are different criterions for transfer of custody to next eligible candidate as per table below:

School of Law	Transfer trigger	Next eligible custodian	Next eligible custodian	Next eligible custodian
Hanafi	Boy: 7 / 9 year age Girl: marriage / 9-11 age	Boy: Choice of either parents Girl: Father	Maternal grandmother / paternal grandmother	Mother’s sister (khala)
Shafi’e	7 years age/ discretion age	Choice of either parents	Maternal grandmother / paternal grandmother	Mother’s sister (khala)
Maliki	Boy: Maturity Girl: Marriage	Grandmother	Maternal grandmother / Khala	Paternal grandmother
Hanbali	7 years age	Choice of either parents	Maternal grandmother / paternal grandmother	Mother’s sister (khala)

Source: Kuwaiti Encyclopaedia of Jurisprudence
Application of Sharia perspective in the West


Family courts in the UK and West in general are broadly in conformation with Islamic Law of custody, especially Maliki School. Since current social priorities are child(ren) centred in most aspects so is Islamic Sharia. Other perspectives reported earlier reflect the social trend of the time. For Mufti’s and Islamic Sharia courts choosing from Maliki perspective is not strange especially if it reflects current social policy trends. Islamic Sharia councils have little control over custodial orders. But they have a balancing act to perform when matters are in Sharia courts. Currently Family courts are overlooking father’s rights and input to child(ren) development. Recent high profile public protests reflect that imbalance in the courts orders. There is extensive lobbying and cry to give fathers significant contacts and say in child(ren) development. All major decisions affecting the life of child(ren) should be taken in consultation with both mother and father even after separation/divorce. General Islamic Sharia principles have major role to play in addressing that balance
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Citations from Islamic Law Books on the issue of Custody for Children after divorce:
CHAPTER XIV. OF HIZANIT, OR THE CARE OF INFANT CHILDREN.

[In case of separation, the care of the infant children belongs to the wife-.
If a separation take place between a husband and wife who are possessed of an infant child, the right of nursing and keeping it rests with the mother, because it is recorded that a woman once applied to the Prophet; saying
"O Prophet of God ! This is my son, the fruit of my womb, cherished in my bosom and suckled at my breast, and his father is desirous of taking him away from me into his own care;"
to which the Prophet replied,
” thou hast a right in the child prior to that of thy husband, so long as thou dost not marry with a stranger;"
- moreover, a mother is naturally not only more tender, but also better qualified to cherish a child during infancy, so that committing the care to her is of advantage to the child; and Siddeek alluded to this, when he addressed Omar on a similar occasion, saying "the spittle of the mother is better for thy child than honey, O Omar!" which was said at a time when separation had taken place between Omar and his wife, the mother of Assim, the latter being than an infant at the breast, and Omar and Omar desirous of taking him from the mother ; and these words were spoken in the presence of may of the companions, none of whom contradicted him :-but the Nifka or subsistence of the child is incumbent upon the father, as shall be hereafter explained. It is to be observed however, that if the mother refuse to keep the child, there is no constraint upon her, as a variety of causes may operate to render her incapable of the charge. AL-HEDAYA Vol. I (Hanafi Manual) [Translated by Charls Hamilton, Published in London 1760)
"When a man who takes away his child from his mother, and then divorces her, is obliged to return the child to her. A man having married a woman at Busra, where she bears him a child, takes the child with him to Kufa, and there divorces the mother; whereupon she brings a suit against him for the child, contending that he must bring it back to her. If he took away the child by her own desire, he is not obliged to bring it back, and the woman should be told to go there and fetch it. But if the child was taken there without the mother's direction, he must bring it back to her. A man goes out from Busra to Kufa taking his wife and child with him, and then sends her back to Busra and divorces her. In such circumstances it is incumbent on him to send the child back to her, and he may be compelled to do so." (Hidayah, vol. I.; Fatawa-i-'Alamgiri, vol. I.; Durru 'l-Mukhtar, pg. 846; Jami'u 'r-Rumuz; Tagore Lectures, 1879; Bailie's Digest, p. 430.)
AL-RISALA (Maliki Manual) 33.09 NURSING (RADA') AND CUSTODY (HADANA) OF CHILDREN
A woman in wedlock shall suckle her own baby, except where women of her status do not suckle their babies. A divorced woman shall suckle her child at the child's father's expense. And she can take the reward for such suckling if she likes.
The custody of children is the responsibility of the mother after divorce. This condition shall remain in force until a boy becomes sexually mature, or until a girl is married away and the marriage consummated. If the mother dies or marries another husband, the right of custody passes into the hands of the grandmother; after her comes the maternal aunt. But if there are more of the mother's maternal relations the right shall pass into the hands of sisters and paternal aunts. And if there are none of these, the right passes into the hands of agnates.

And finally:

Keep me in your duas too. Insha-Allah, all will work out fine for you and your situation. I do understand how difficult it is to be a single parent. I hear it from my fiancé all the time... Be patient sister. If you don't want to marry at the moment, then that is fine - but don;t rule it out, because maybe in future, you never know. Finally, Don't assume too much of anyones situation, everyones situation is different, as you found out when conversing with me. best not to judge others lest we be judged harshly ourselves. On that note, Assalaam Alaikum.

Scimi

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Lol @ bitter and single!

Firstly, there is no female relatives on my side. Why should give up on a child I gave birth to and brought up? And his side. Plus I don't like his grandmother (ex mother) and she talks a lot behind my back! One woman doesn't equate the humanity!

 

[Scimitar]

Admit it, you are bitter...

Leave my son out in the cold to obey a man ? You are joking!

You know, the path to healing, is admitting you have a problem sister.

Scimi

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Lol @ you again
Bitter? I have FULL control on my life! The fake smile from ex in laws is because of the control I have. They can't mess with me, they no choice to respect me and that pretty goes for my brothers too.

I also have my son and living comfortably!

 

[Scimitar]

Alhamdulillah, you don't need to convince me sis... just yourself.

Scimi

 

[جوري]

May Allah swt ease your affairs sis insha'Allah ...

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Muslim Women in Science


There is an ingrained value in every Muslim, man and woman alike, to pursue knowledge and to learn about God's truth by studying the surrounding world. Prophet Mohammad (saws), advised his followers to seek knowledge wherever it can be found. In keeping with this value, Muslim women are continuing to make headway in the field of science and their graduation ratios often exceed those of western women in pursuing scientific degrees according to figures recently released by UNESCO.

Yet, very seldom do positive depictions of Muslim women get portrayed by the western mainstream media. In some cases, media profit depends upon a production team's ability to feed the myopic fantasies and stereotypes etched in the minds of many non-Muslims. Westerners are comfortable with stereotypes that Muslim women are oppressed because of Islam, which could not be further from the truth. The Islamic message, which stresses gender equity and rights for women, is often corrupted by competing cultural values that have no basis in Islam scripture.

The quest for knowledge has always applied to women in Islam. God has made no difference between genders in this area. The Prophet (saws) once said: "Seeking knowledge is a mandate for every Muslim (male and female)." (Sahih Bukhari)

During the International Congress on Muslim Women in Science Towards a Better Future, King Mohamed VI stressed that "...the integrated development of the principles of Islam and of scientific knowledge must be achieved irrespective of gender", according to a UNESCO report on the gathering that took place in 2000.

Muslim women in science have become leaders in their fields, receiving awards, earning patents and making contribution that further man's knowledge of the world, and yet the eyes of western cameras see through these women as if they do not exist. A tendency to avoid praise for Muslim achievements hides the seldom explored comparisons.

The fact is that the United States falls behind six Muslim countries in the percentage of women graduating in science to the total science graduate population. The countries whose ratio of women science graduates exceeds that of the United States are Bahrain, Brunei Darussalam, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Qatar and Turkey. Morocco exceeds the United States in the ratio of women engineering graduates as a percentage of the science graduate population.

Rehab Eman, a Muslim woman with a Bachelor of Science in Architectural Engineering, and a Masters degree in Islamic Studies on Jerusalem credits Islamic values for what inspired her to pursue knowledge in a scientific field. Instead of holding Eman back, the Muslim men in her life, including her father and brother, encouraged her to work hard for her education. "My lecturers were men, my supporters were men, my sponsors were men. They believed in my talents...," she shares.

Traditionally, Muslim women have not been discouraged in the sciences to the extent that Western women have, which might be why statistics show such high ratios of Muslim women graduates in science fields as a percentage to the total science graduate population. However, in Muslim countries the real hurdles that affect women's education are the very same hurdles that affect men's education. These hurdles take the form of poverty, illiteracy, political instability and the policy of foreign powers.

Data that explains the real problem can be found by comparing the total educated populations of countries and regions of the world. A high degree of illiteracy and low levels of secondary school enrollment account for why there are less graduates overall in poorer countries than there are in wealthier regions like North America and Europe. In locales defined by UNESCO in their recent report, gross secondary school enrollment ratios are very low: Africa (below 40%), West Asia (below 60%), and East Asia (below 75%).

While some Islamophobic pundits are all too ready to make a correlation between poor education and what type of religion one practices, more accurate relationships can find their foundation in hard figures. National wealth and education forge a tight relationship. According to data from the UIS (UNESCO Institute for Statistics), national wealth is directly related to educational enrollment. Statistics show that the vast majority of medium-high and high income countries have a secondary school enrollment ratio above 90 percent. Poorer countries don't have the resources needed to make education a priority. Undoubtedly, the next question that gets asked is, "How do countries become poor?" Well, to the dismay of many hostile to the deen, poverty and Islam cannot be correlated any more successfully than illiteracy and Islam. While there is more than enough scriptural proof that Islam encourages education for both men and women, some fail to realize that when the disease of poverty attacks, it does so in disregard to any cultural or religious boundaries.

Obstacles to Education

Although there are obstacles to education in much of the non-Muslim world today, the Muslim world has endured some of the most hostile attacks in recent decades, which has affected the overall quality and safety for youth trying to obtain education. In war torn Afghanistan and Iraq, schools of all levels have been bombed and shelled by U.S. military forces. Public health is in jeopardy and infrastructure has been damaged and not rebuilt.

When state-sponsored super-power terrorism isn't being waged on weaker civilian populations, a form of quiet economic warfare is being waged behind a smokescreen of Public Relations razzle-dazzle by organizations like the IMF and World Bank, the culprits responsible, in part, for increasing third-world national debts and hitting other nations' education systems like a home run out of Yankee Stadium.

A self-proclaimed Economic Hit-Man, John Perkins, former Chief Economist for Chas. T. Main, confesses in a radio interview with Amy Goodman that his job was to build the American Empire by increasing other countries' national debt by using any means necessary.

"This empire, unlike any other in the history of the world, has been built primarily through economic manipulation, through cheating, through fraud, through seducing people into our way of life, through the economic hit men. I was very much a part of that," says Perkins.

Gender Inequity

Gender inequity does exist, but it is not relegated to Muslim countries. Some disparaging gender gaps in higher education exist where the religion of Islam isn't even practiced by a majority of the population. For example, only 44% of people enrolled in higher education in Switzerland are women, Guatemala (43%), Rwanda (37%), Korea (36%), Bhutan (34%), Cambodia (29%) and Liechtenstein (27%).

On the other side of the coin, in Tunisia, a country where 98% of people practice Islam, there were 5% more female students enrolled than males in higher education. Malaysian women made up 55% of the enrolled population in higher education, Lebanon (54%), Jordan and Libya (51%). Bahrain even exceeded the United States in the ratio of women enrolled in higher education by 6%. If education is freedom, then it looks like Muslim women in Bahrain are more liberated than American women.

Rather than Islam threatening a woman's right to education, governments hostile to Islam often set up roadblocks to prevent Muslim women from obtaining education. Both France and Turkey are guilty of this type of exclusionary persecution, all under the false guise of secularism. According to Human Rights Watch (HRW), a prestigious nongovernmental organization, these bans exclude thousands of women from institutions of higher learning each year. A 2004 HRW report states, "This restriction of women's choice of dress is discriminatory and violates their right to education, their right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, and their right to privacy."

Exemplary Muslimah Scientists

Despite the fact that the Muslim woman is constantly being harassed about her choice in religion and must withstand relentless western media stereotypes that ridicule her faith and demonize the men of her culture, there exists an Islamic tradition celebrating women in science of which Muslims must remind the world. Today, the Islamic culture in which women are encouraged to participate, excel and lead in scientific fields continues to express itself, not only through statistical data, but in real, living, breathing and praying people. Although these women are exceptional, they are by no means the exception to the rule.

Professor Samira Ibrahim Islam

Professor Islam was nominated as a distinguished Scientist of the World For the Year 2000 by UNESCO. She made significant contributions in drug safety by defining the Saudi profile for drug metabolism. She has held several academic leadership posts in her own country as well as international diplomatic posts with the World Health Organization. Professor Islam has also been a key figure in building academic infrastructure, beginning in the '70s, to support women studying science in higher education in Saudi Arabia.

Sameena Shah

Recently at the international Workshop on Machine Learning in Canada, Samira Shah, presented an innovative algorithm in computerized cognitive leaning that she and a team of colleagues developed at IIT Delhi, India. Her previous academic contributions include a "Global Optimizer" for which a patent is pending. She is currently pursuing a doctorate degree from IIT Delhi.

Professor Dr. Bina Shaheen Siddiqui

Dr. Siddiqui has made significant contributions to medicine and agriculture through her study and classification of indigenous plant materials. She has been awarded several patents for anticancer constituents and biopesticides and has written more than 250 research articles. Pakistan Academy of Sciences elected her as a Fellow and she co-founded the Third World Organization for Women in Science. She received her Ph.D. and D.Sc. from the University of Karachi, Pakistan. She has been honored with several prestigious awards including the Khwarizmi International Award of Iran and Salam Prize in Chemistry.

Historic records show that women participated in science and medicine in Muslim societies. By contrast, in America, during the 1890's women could not be doctors, and yet, Muslim women doctors were seen as equals to their male counterparts hundred's of years earlier, they were even responsible for written contributions in the field. Also, women like Ijliya, an astrolab builder, were employed as skilled scientists in Muslim courts. Others made progress in pharmacology like Ishi Nili

Seeking knowledge is one of the most rewarding ways to connect to Al-Alim (The All Knowing) besides prayer. The believing faithful hold a deep love for Allah in their hearts. Perhaps it is this deep love that inspires believing men and women to strain and reach with their minds, through scientific learning in order to bring themselves closer to the One to whom they are so thankful.

"Iqra!" (read) was Allah's first command to Mohammad (peace be upon him) and its implications are numerous to Muslims living today. Read, be literate, seek and learn, discover and use the gifts and talents that Allah has granted us above animals. Use the mind to move closer to Al-Haadi (The Guide), as the Muslimah scientists have done in the past and are doing today.

WOMEN GRADUATES IN SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING

The data for years 2002/2003 contained in these tables describes the percentage of women graduates in science and engineering out of the total science and engineering graduate population in each country, and pertains to higher-education in science (life sciences, physical sciences, mathematics and statistics, computer sciences) and Engineering (engineering and engineering trades, manufacturing and processing, architecture and building) fields in countries with Muslim majorities for which data was available. (Statistics from the "Global Education Digest" report released from UNESCO Institute for Statistics 2005)

Woman Graduates in Science

Bahrain 74%
Bangladesh 24%
Brunei Darussalam 49%
Kyrgyzstan 64%
Lebanon 47%
Qatar 71%
Turkey 44%

Compared with...

U.S. 43%
Japan 25%

Women Graduates in Engineering

Eritrea 4%
Morocco 25%

Compared with...
U.S. 19%
Japan 13%

http://www.missionislam.com/science/mwscience.htm

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

http://www.genengnews.com/blog-biotech/muslim-women-in-science/21/


lecture by Imam Abdul Malik topic is WOMEN IN ISLAM; PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pepaCRPVvU

Women in Islam (part 2 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhW6nSUuG9Q&feature=related

Women in Islam (part 3 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7HcbpInJC4&feature=related

The War Against Muslim Women - Abdullah Hakim Quick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBGQlyx8OpY

 

[CosmicPathos]

akhi,

you speak of some idyllic utopia which unfortunately has little to do with the real world.. Most Muslim women I know have to work for the following reason and let me list those I know
1- her husband is disabled and she has seven kids unfortunately no degree beyond high school so she has to do menial work so for starters I stress education by the way they're both converts masha'Allah
2- one Pakistani lady her husband left her and with years of abuse doesn't even pay alimony to her kids, she worked as a pharmacist tech for pennies, put three of them through college masha'Allah
3- One polish convert her husband left her after obtaining his residency status for a Muslim woman from his own country, surprisingly wal7mdlillah she remained steadfast on Islam despite the obvious mal intent
4- widows my aunt was one
5- those who have never married, I have a cousin whose both parents died and her brother lives abroad and her younger sister is with three kids and lives away..
6- one whose father died, she actually is well educated but took a crappy job to pay the bills because her husband who could never hold down a job, came to the U.S on some 'green card' lottery was cheating on her while she was seven month pregnant and often time kicking her in the stomach so she'd abort and he'd not have to support some kids
7- many who are simply joining in the paycheck and I grew up in that kind of a household where both parents had to work to make ends meet.. so I find it somewhat unfortunate to create the scenario you've created above.. it is somewhat insulting..
I'd take a working woman over a housewife any day at least an educated housewife one can live with.. The only whining women I have encountered without exception are housewives who have never worked a day in their life.. You try getting up in the morning at 5, prepare your kids, head to work, put up with whatever abuse there's there come home make dinner and deal with an abusive husband see if there's much to complain or gossip about? contrast to a housewife whose will nit pick on ever last detail and are often very attention seeking. Sob7an Allah.. it is always these pampered sorts that expect everything else just for popping off kids I guess.. the rest of us are just mules who deserve the abuse left and right.....

w salam,

sister these are really exceptions rather than the rule. I wish I could help such muslim sisters so that they could focus on more important issues such as families (if they had any) or their deen. I think this is where Bait al maal created by Umar (ra) could help. It was precisely for such women (and men) so that they dont have to be abused by rat and cat race.

salam

p.s. as for entitlement issues, women born to rich daddies, and despite working in Ernst n Young with a 6 figure salary, still are whiny and complaining and all that. I think we cannot generalize housewives in favor of working women. I was in process of talking to one such high achiever (family friends) for marriage, thanks to Allah I escaped unscathed.

 

[CosmicPathos]

The role of every man is to be husband and a father... just as it is for ever woman to be a mother and a wife. Man should go out and ear the bread, and woman should raise the family - it's called a partnership.

Women can become Dr's Lawyers and whatever they like, as long as they fulfil their primary duty FIRST - to be a wife and a mother, meaning, raise the children and manage the home.

I don 't understand why women want to work? I mean, why? It's a mans world - do you really want to be the subject of male scrutiny in a male dominated environment? Or is that women like to complain and there's nothing better to complain about than your boss' advancements towards you, or your fellow male colleagues talking you down? I don't get it. No wait - it's deadly simple - gossip. That must be it...

I'm pleased I have found a woman - a real woman, one who knows her role in Islam. And would love to fulfil it. She wants nothing more than to stay at home and raise children.

It is incumbent on ever man and woman to marry... and not to delay it. LOL that.

maybe this will help the ladies here:

http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/The Ideal Muslimah.pdf

http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/therightsandduties.pdf

http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/Wisdom behind laws regarding woman1.pdf

download these, read them and then have a good old ponder.

Scimi

bro, if you've noticed, these kind of women, such as lawyers and barristers etc, you've mentioned, they end up with same kind of husbands, husbands who have been zaanis in the past, were playboys or alcohol addicts, despite being high achievers and academics themselves. In general. The day you see a God-fearing mumin marry such a Western trained lawyer woman, do PM me.

Recently, a Pakistani journalist Shirmeen Obaid won oscar for her documentary. Pppl were singing praises about how "noble" soul she has. Watch her award ceremony and look at her dress. is that the disposition of someone with taqwa? Then I googled up her husband, meh, he is same type as her, hugging other women in the ceremony.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Lol @ you again
Bitter? I have FULL control on my life! The fake smile from ex in laws is because of the control I have. They can't mess with me, they no choice to respect me and that pretty goes for my brothers too.

I also have my son and living comfortably!

aah the delusions. Dont ever get sick and go see a doctor if you have full control over your life. let's see how long this full control lasts. At this very moment, you are slave to nature. to your heart, to your brain, to your blood, to oxygen. Arrogance can really mess up one's head.

 

[Scimitar]

bro, if you've noticed, these kind of women, such as lawyers and barristers etc, you've mentioned, they end up with same kind of husbands, husbands who have been zaanis in the past, were playboys or alcohol addicts, despite being high achievers and academics themselves. In general. The day you see a God-fearing mumin marry such a Western trained lawyer woman, do PM me.

Recently, a Pakistani journalist Shirmeen Obaid won oscar for her documentary. Pppl were singing praises about how "noble" soul she has. Watch her award ceremony and look at her dress. is that the disposition of someone with taqwa? Then I googled up her husband, meh, he is same type as her, hugging other women in the ceremony.

I am in full agreement of this.

Brother, the question these women don't ask is "what kind of fitna will I be for the men if I have to work alongside them?" and they do not even understand the connotations of this question...

connotations like "if i become a fitna for them, will part of the punishment be visited upon me too?"

Taqwa, they need to understand what that really is.

Scimi