What would happen if the US pulled out of Iraq today ?

[Agnostic]

I was just wondering what the effects would be if the US pulled out now.
I never thought the war on Iraq was legal or a good idea, in fact I new what we were getting into as I went through the Vietnam war and saw the out come when it was over.
This is not a hostile question I'm just confused by my county's mission statement that is so broad I cant follow it anymore.
All input would be appreciated

Peace Please

 

[Woodrow]

My own opinion is nobody knows what would happen if we just pull out. The country could become another Darfur or it could settle into a true self rule. Personaly I think our best bet is for us to get out. Than offer rebuilding costs to whatever power gains control.

Learn our lesson and stop poking our noses into the affairs of other nations.

 

[Keltoi]

The problem is a no win situation. If the U.S. stays they will continue to be held responsible for the violence there. If the U.S. leaves they will be held responsible for leaving Iraq in such a state. There is no easy way out now. It is up to the Iraqi people themselves at this point.

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

My best bet would be peace..

The US forces should also take every puppet that they own to make another gov in exile for use in later years when Iraqis start doing concerted effort to block Israel and to defend itself from any attack form the US and Israel.

The porblem is that western media have been down playing the Iraqis for all it is worth and i see that many muslim have fallen into that trap.

As polls have shown all Iraqis agree that the US presence is the casue for conflict.

Will they heed the Iraqis or what they think the Iraqis are capable of?

The US already entered Iraqs cosidering themselves saviour ,considering the Iraqis as worse than dogs,,,needing to be led and disciplined.

this mentality has casued much suffering but as alawys ,in any US ignited conflict,the US is never at fault...

But i do hope that no sane americna will ever ask again,,,,WHY DO THEY HATE US...

If you still cant asnwer the question then trully you are not the solution..

 

[Skillganon]

The problem is a no win situation. If the U.S. stays they will continue to be held responsible for the violence there. If the U.S. leaves they will be held responsible for leaving Iraq in such a state. There is no easy way out now. It is up to the Iraqi people themselves at this point.

Of course they are responsible, because they are responsible for Terrorism i.e. (Invasion of Iraq) and responsible for turning the whole country into anarchy, deliberately.

Now best bet is to take advice of the Majority of the people and get lost.

 

[Keltoi]

Of course they are responsible, because they are responsible for Terrorism i.e. (Invasion of Iraq) and responsible for turning the whole country into anarchy, deliberately.

Now best bet is to take advice of the Majority of the people and get lost.

That is easy to say from good ole London isn't it? As for the charge that the U.S. is deliberately turning the country to anarchy, that isn't really worth a response.

 

[Joe98]

The real question is:

If the US goes home, will the Iraqi people stop killing each other?

In the responses above people have avoided this issue.

 

[Keltoi]

The real question is:

If the US goes home, will the Iraqi people stop killing each other?

In the responses above people have avoided this issue.

It seems that people killing each other isn't a big deal unless Americans are involved.

 

[north_malaysian]

Maybe US should leave and call in armies from OIC members to stabilize Iraq...

 

[Keltoi]

Maybe US should leave and call in armies from OIC members to stabilize Iraq...

If the American military can't stop secterian violence, I don't see how OIC members would have more luck. If any of those doing the killing in Iraq right now wanted to fight Americans they are there and not hard to find. Instead, U.S. forces have stopped being the target. Iraqis are killing Iraqis in extremely large numbers, and in disgusting ways. However, from a personal standpoint, I say get the U.S. troops out of Iraq and let the OIC members have a go...see how long that lasts.

 

[north_malaysian]

If the American military can't stop secterian violence, I don't see how OIC members would have more luck. If any of those doing the killing in Iraq right now wanted to fight Americans they are there and not hard to find. Instead, U.S. forces have stopped being the target. Iraqis are killing Iraqis in extremely large numbers, and in disgusting ways. However, from a personal standpoint, I say get the U.S. troops out of Iraq and let the OIC members have a go...see how long that lasts.

At least.... Iranians can calm down the Shiites and Pakistanis can do the same to Sunnis.... BUT still it's upon Iraqis to decide.... Maybe we should divide IRaq into 3 countries....

 

[Zulkiflim]

The real question is:

If the US goes home, will the Iraqi people stop killing each other?

In the responses above people have avoided this issue.

Salaam,

Actually no the response have been very clear from the Iraqis,it is the US whom have been ignoring them and the polls.

If the US leave,the war will end.

The destruction will end.

But do the US want to belive that peace can come wihout their aid?
NO,they wish to be the saviour.
Do they wish to leave Iraq now and have another nation hate them?
No
But again do they recognise they are the problem?

So inshort this war will not end ,and in another coutnry another generation,Iraqis will despise US,as many muslim and non-muslim coutnries already do.


Will the US leave and say sorry and pay for all damages?
No

For any Iraqis dead are collateral damage.
Spoken from the administration.

 

[Zulkiflim]

If the American military can't stop secterian violence, I don't see how OIC members would have more luck. If any of those doing the killing in Iraq right now wanted to fight Americans they are there and not hard to find. Instead, U.S. forces have stopped being the target. Iraqis are killing Iraqis in extremely large numbers, and in disgusting ways. However, from a personal standpoint, I say get the U.S. troops out of Iraq and let the OIC members have a go...see how long that lasts.

Salaam,

There it is again,the arrogance to think you cna solve wihout admission of guilt.

And you are right Iraqis are killing Iraqis in large number why?

simple,Both sides consider themselves as triators.

And you are wrong when you say that the US troops are no longer the target,they and all their feelers are the targets.

Any person will understand the anger and the desire to harm those whom have harmed you and your loved ones.
In a lawless coutnry,due to US invasion,such things will go on for there is no justice.

How many times have we seen US soldier or any adminsitration sent to justice for war crimes?
Abu Ghraib anyone?

None,the main thing is that the US want the license to kill wihout the responsibilities..
And thus again,,,that arrogance led to brother killing brother..

Inshallah,but mistake not the target will always be coalition forces especially US soldiers.

 

[Abdulwaheed]

THe US shouldnt have invaded in the first place. Im sure they have their own agenda and its definitely wasnt the 'war on terrorism' They saw a threat in Iraq that wasnt there.
They are starting a civil war and i dont know how they plan on ending this whole mess. Pulling out of iraq wont solve the problems, but its a start.

 

[Agnostic]

And you are right Iraqis are killing Iraqis in large number why?
simple,Both sides consider themselves as triators.

Not sure what you mean by this?

How many times have we seen US soldier or any adminsitration sent to justice for war crimes?
Abu Ghraib anyone?

There are several soldiers going on trial for crimes in Iraq now, what the results will be I'm not sure but some may face the death penalty.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12492642/
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6658513/

My fear is that if the coalition force simply pull out there will be a huge power vacuum and civil war will follow, this has already been predicted by Iraqi's political and religious leaders.

 

[MTAFFI]

Salaam,

There it is again,the arrogance to think you cna solve wihout admission of guilt.

And you are right Iraqis are killing Iraqis in large number why?

simple,Both sides consider themselves as triators.

And you are wrong when you say that the US troops are no longer the target,they and all their feelers are the targets.

Any person will understand the anger and the desire to harm those whom have harmed you and your loved ones.
In a lawless coutnry,due to US invasion,such things will go on for there is no justice.

How many times have we seen US soldier or any adminsitration sent to justice for war crimes?
Abu Ghraib anyone?

None,the main thing is that the US want the license to kill wihout the responsibilities..
And thus again,,,that arrogance led to brother killing brother..

Inshallah,but mistake not the target will always be coalition forces especially US soldiers.

I have followed some of your responses and my opinion is that perhaps you have it backwards. America has said several times that it was a mistake to invade Iraq, and the majority of America would like to pull out according to polls.

Perhaps instead of blaming all of the violence on America you should blame it on the people of that region. America did not come in and try to take over, a ruthless leader was overthrown and a newer, better government was put into place. If the country would at least give this government a chance, instead of killing and constantly trying to overthrow it, they might see that.

As far as war crimes go what do you call all of the torture and murder commited by the people that are "fighting back"? Is that not a war crime? How are they being punished? It is these people that want the license to kill and the ability to rule a country by placing fear in the hearts of everyone who lives there. The fact that you think:
"the main thing is that the US want the license to kill wihout the responsibilities..
And thus again,,,that arrogance led to brother killing brother.." is the reason for "brother killing brother" is absolutely ridiculous. These people are not brothers there is ruthless extremist killing good people.

They are not fighting because Americans are there they are fighting because oil is there. They are fighting because the Sunnis no longer control all of the money and oil. They are fighting because they are sick and corrupted ignorant people, the same as those who back them.

 

[Curaezipirid]

If the US pulls out then any war is a more localised war by definition.
What business is it of the US if any Iraqi might happen to want to kill a person. If they can get into the US and kill US citizens then surely it is a boarder patrolling issue.
Peace keeping forces are a misnomer. No Peace is kept by the gun.

I was reading a set of News articles from America earlier this evening and I might start up a thread in which any interested persons can look at some of them which exemplify the "alternative to mainstream" US popular opinion. I find the articles very negative because the Peace movement in the US seems very disillusioned about the general population's opinions about a US military force in the Middle East. The Peace movement seems quite despairing sadly.

So here could I question only why is it that all citizens of the US are not already regarding that it is imperative for US military presence to withdraw from the Middle East? What good can they do there?

Can it be that many US citizens support George Bush because he is such an outspoken Christian? Is that why US citizens are believing in any beneficience from such a miliatary presence? There is a thread somewhere in which George Bush is reported to have said that before now God told him to send troops into the Middle East, but now God is telling him to withdraw troops from the Middle East. If he has really said that and if much of his support is based in Christian faith, then surely he is already heralding a withdrawal of troops and we can all sigh in relief.

wasalam

 

[north_malaysian]

They are not fighting because Americans are there they are fighting because oil is there. They are fighting because the Sunnis no longer control all of the money and oil. They are fighting because they are sick and corrupted ignorant people, the same as those who back them.

Maybe we should see what would happen when US outt of Iraq. If they still killing each others. Then we know why they did that.

 

[snakelegs]

Curaezipirid,
i don't know whether bush is a christian or not, but it seems very clear that he is using the religion to achieve political goals - just as some muslims do and people have probably done forever.
as for the original post - i have no idea what would happen - but the end of this civil war seems no where near coming to an end any time soon.
i would like to see the u.s. apologize for starting this war on false pretenses, ask for some kind of help in the transition - maybe just from muslim nations? - and get out. our continued presence there is obviously not helping anything.
then i think the u.s. should pay reparations and that no contracts be given to u.s. corporations for the rebuilding. they have gotten richer enough, first by destroying and then by rebuilding.
if we spent even a fraction of the sums we are spending every month - it would probably be more than adequate to do a good job of it.
i know - i'm dreaming!
i think the u.s. bears responsibilty for bringing about the situation that has led to anarchy and should atone for unleashing the monster.
yeah i know - i'm dreaming!

 

[north_malaysian]

i would like to see the u.s. apologize for starting this war on false pretenses, ask for some kind of help in the transition - maybe just from muslim nations? - and get out. !

Good points