What would you ask a potential partner?

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3.) .... consider if he says he never have been married but is in his 40's! That means either he masturbated or dated and had premarital sex. (Not a good catch)

In effect, this is saying, that all those for whom Allah has not yet decreed marriage to happen, who are over the age of 40, are of bad character. This is not a question, but a judgement that you've made, a completely unfounded one. I find this offensive for all the noble brothers and sisters over the age of 40. You are slamming them and putting accusations on them simply for what Allah hasn't yet bestowed on them.

These brothers and sisters may be bearing it with good patience and fortitude. They may be sad that Allah hasn't yet bestowed it on them, and may be making efforts and making du'aa for it, beseeching Allah and crying to Him, but imagine how that hurt would be if they knew what people were saying about them. They may in fact be of those who fast often, as recommended in the hadeeth (al-Bukhaari, 5066; Muslim, 1400) for those on whom Allah has not yet bestowed a spouse, and may be closer to Allah than those making the judgements and accusations abut them.

May Allah reward them for their patience, and grant them righteous, pleasing spouses soon, who will be the coolness of their eyes, ameen.
 
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It's a business transaction and a job interview than a human connection based on the foundation Allah swt describes in the noble book as Mawaddah and Rahma in suret ar'rum and others.
And so good luck with that- either a human being who's superficial for they've not been touched by calamity which ultimately shapes and humanizes the character or a liar like those who do the same on their résumé out of desperation and distrust that's Allah swt who decrees everything from bread winning to marriage partners.
Maybe matrimonial sites work for people Allah swt knows best - but if this is any indication of what one should expect or have expected of then frankly how shallow and pitiable - you'd have better company and more depth from petting a stray cat!

Good things come to those who wait and some things are indeed worth waiting for!
Not everyone can afford a diamond .. It remaing on the shelf unsold doesn't decrease its value any!

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Brothers and sisters, I would like to set the standards from this point onwards regarding anyone considering a person for marriage. In no particular order, I advise everyone with the following:

  • Do not ask any questions that will reveal one's sins – this is forbidden in Islam;
  • Do not be judgemental towards someone because of the state of their family. It may not be an accurate reflection of the person in question;
  • Do not ask a lot of questions about a person's past. People can change and become better people but their past cannot change. Remember who 'Umar ibn Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him) once was and who he became;
  • Do not look for faults. While your expectations may be at a certain threshold, you have your own faults to correct and be ashamed of;
  • Do not be overly concerned about how much the person in question fulfils his or her right over you as a husband/wife. Focus on fulfilling the right that your potential spouse is going to have over you, as righteousness starts with one's self first;
  • Be kind, respectful and polite throughout the time you are in his or her presence. Who knows, one of you may like the other person. And while you are not held responsible for how one feels, you will be held responsible on the day of judgeent for how you treated someone in is word;
  • While certain questions may be important to you, be respectful when you ask them. The way you word a question can make the difference between the kind of image you are giving of yourself.

I'm sure there are other things that I've missed out but the point is one should always be at one's best behaviour. Since this thread is regarding suggestions of what questions to ask a potential spouse, I will remove any posts from here onwards that contradict the above.
 
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What an inane question to ask. Everyone has the right to hide sins of their parents.

Good luck with what you seek though.

I am married, but that just comes from experience... Yes, everyone has the right to hide any sins of their parents and even themselves but that's what I would ask and I wouldn't be shy to ask and those that give vague answers to my questions would never be considered for marriage.

Cheating and deception are despicable characteristics that are beneath a
decent person. Intentionally distorting the truth in order to mislead
others contradicts the values of honesty, which requires an attitude of
sincerity, straightforwardness, and fairness that leaves no room for
cheating, lying, trickery, or deceit. There are many texts from the Qur'an
and the Sunnah conveying the meaning that cheating, whether the target be
Muslims or non-Muslims, is forbidden.

Accepting the guidance of Islam leads a person to truthfulness, which means
a person completely avoids cheating and back-stabbing. The Prophet of Islam
said:

“Whoever bears arms against us is not one of us, and whoever cheats us is
not one of us.” (Saheeh Muslim)

According to another report, the Prophet passed by a pile of food in the
market. He put his hand inside it and felt dampness, alth-ough the surface
was dry. He said:

‘O owner of the food, what is this?’ The man said, ‘It was damaged by rain,
O Messenger of God.’

He said, ‘Why did you not put the rain-damaged food on top so that people
could see it! Whoever cheats us is not one of us.” (Saheeh Muslim)

Muslim society is based on purity of feeling, love, sincerity toward every
Muslim, and fulfillment of promises to every member of society. Its members
are endowed with piety, truthfulness, and faithfulness. Cheating and
deception are alien characters in contrast to the noble character of a true
Muslim. There is no room in it for swindlers, double crossers, tricksters,
or traitors.

Islam views cheating and deception as heinous sins, a source of shame to
the one guilty of committing them, both in this world and the next. The
Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, did not merely
denounce them by excluding them from the Muslim community in this world, he
also announced that on the Day of Judgment every traitor would be raised
carrying the flag of his betrayal.

A caller will cry out from the vast arena of judgment, pointing to him,
drawing attention to him:

“Every traitor will have a banner on the Day of Resurrection and it will be
said: This is the betrayer of so-and-so.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)

The shame of traitors — men and women — will be immense. Those who thought
that their betrayal had been forgotten will find it right there, exposed
for the whole world to see on banners raised high held by their own hands!

The Prophet of Islam said: “God said: There are three whom I will oppose on
the Day of Resurrection: a man who gave his word and then betrayed it; a
man who sold a free man into slavery and kept the money; and a man who
hired someone, benefited from his labor, then did not pay his wages.
(Saheeh Al-Bukhari)

One should steer clear of all the various forms of deceit and deception
present in today’s society. Cheating is common in examinations, business
transactions, and even between spouses and loved ones. Placing a label on
domestically-made products to make it seem that it is imported is a kind of
fraud. Some people give wrong advice when their council is sought and thus
deceive the person who believes he is getting good advice. An employee
should do the job for what he is paid for without any deception or
cheating.

Rulers rig the ballot to win elections and cheat the whole nation. Cheating
between spouses and having extra-marital affairs is widespread in modern
society. A Muslim should value himself too highly to be among those who
cheat or deceive perchance one might fall in the category of hypocrites
about whom the Prophet said:

“There are four characteristics, whoever has all of them is a true
hypocrite, and whoever has one of them has one of the qualities of a
hypocrite until he gives it up: when he is trusted, he betrays; when he
speaks, he lies; when he makes a promise, he breaks it; and when he
disputes, he resorts to slander.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Saheeh Muslim)

Therefore, a Muslim who has true Islamic sensitivities avoids deceit,
cheating, treachery, and lying no matter what benefits or profits such
activities might bring him, because Islam considers those guilty of such
deeds to be hypocrites.
 
If I'm not mistaken, brother CosmicPathos wasn't suggesting that one should cheat or be deceitful. He was saying that it's nobody's business to ask that.

If somebody gets asks that, they don't have answer, as it's not anyone else's business, and one shouldn't disclose other's sins or shortcomings, especially those of one's parents, as brother 'Abd-al Latif mentioned in his post.
 
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It is haram for one to reveal sins. If a person asks for one to reveal sins, it in fact says a lot about the questioner. Allah covers the sins of His servant to honour him in this life. He continues to bless the sinner by questioning him away from the ears of others on the day of questioning, just as He concealed his sins from everyone in this world. So who are you to judge?

To cut a long hadith short, a sahabi once came to the Messenger :saws1: and admitted to him that he had committed zina. The Messenger kept on turning away from him until this sahabi confessed against himself four times. Even then the Messenger asked the people around him if this Sahabi was sane. The scholars comment on this and said that all of this was done by the Messenger because the Messenger wanted to show him mercy, knowing what the sahabi will face if he is found guilty. There are many other ahadeeth of such nature where the messenger :saws1: forbade revealing sins which I'm sure you're aware of.

Imam Ahmed never married until he was forty, Maryum (as) was never married and neither was Ibn Taymiyyah. Yet we know they were among the most chaste of people.

If these examples are too distant then I can guarantee you that there are plenty of unmarried Muslims today, in this world and in our society who do not secretly disobey their Lord just because they are unmarried.

Since all of the offspring of Adam (as) are sinners one should never be forced to reveal one's sins, nor even be put in an uncomfortable situation because of matters that are only between a person and his Lord.

Truthfulness does not mean being blunt and open about every last action one does nor does it mean forcing the truth from someone if it's better kept a secret. Truthfulness also does not mean to confess sins if one is asked about it, and marriage is no exception. To do any of these is to be deprived of Islamic etiquettes, intelligence and wisdom.

Allah knows best.
 
I don't want to beat a dead horse but a business transaction and human relations aren't something that is comparable. Umar Ibn Ilkhtaab (and I can't cite this event right now because maghrib is around the corner and I got to break my fast) but a man came to him with that fact that his daughter is a repentant former adulterer and now has a proposal, if he should disclose this to her suitor and Umar (RA) said no. At any rate I am not advocating that people pretend they're virgins when they're not but to at least not cast doubt on people's character because they didn't and in accordance to someone else' standards catch the train in the right time.. Believe it or not life happens to the best of people.. I have encountered many folks where I wondered, why are they single they seem to have the whole package but even that doesn't guarantee that one will find their partner or even if they did that it will be a successful marriage at that..

and Allah swt knows best..

p.s it is actually also OK in Islam to pretend to love your husband even if you don't (again can't cite it someone correct me if I am wrong) so what applies to a market transaction isn't necessarily going to apply to a marriage!

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If I can go back in time, I would have asked her what would you like to do when you live university...along with the following questions:

1. What do you do when you get bored? I personally play computer games, surf the Internet or workout.

2. Want something to eat?

I'm not really not the type of person who will sit there and bombard her with all sorts of questions. I just want her to have a nice time...and not make her cry. :/
 
^^ I imagine you can still fix it, if you wanted..
just be yourself, tell her you were nervous and hope she didn't leave too upset and if you can start over..
Hi, I am guestfellow and smile
 
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If a brother was to ask and expect me to be low maintenance. I would ask what phone he has, whether he attends gym weekly and goes out with his friends to nice restaurant. If his answer is sumsung galaxy three or iPhone 5 plus tablet, does attend gym and goes with his friends. I would run a mile.....


Because he would be a Hypocrite.


And if he was to mention how he is the leader of the household WITHOUT mentioning that he would ask your opinion and consider it. I would run a mile.

:)
I can't believe someone has 99 question. Most of you need more then one meeting.
 
instead of running a mile, I think you should beat him with a stick. men like that are still boys.
 
Walaikum Asalam,

Some of the questions I would ask..:

How often do you pray Fajr?
How often do you read the Qur'an?


Goal in life?

Willing to seek knowledge? (knowledge of the deen)

How do you want to fulfill your duty of being a wife?

Also, I would definitely want to find out who her friends are..
 
expect me to be low maintenance.

Well he bought iphone from his money and goes to gym from his own money. I am sure if you buy your high maintenance stuff from your own money as a wife, no guy would ever have an issue with that ever.

I am not sure that can be called nifaaq/hypocrisy. Really twisted definition of nifaaq especially when he breaks no promises, he does not quarrell and the rest of that hadith.

but ooh, if my wife accepts to not work at all (or just part time 2-3 days for female patients), I'll definitely buy her her favorite phone well cuz she earns no money and cuz only then I'd truly feel like her qawwam and genuinely responsible to pay for most of her luxurious expenses. :)
 
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instead of running a mile, I think you should beat him with a stick. men like that are still boys.

^o)

I dont see any problem with having a samsung galaxy s3 and going to the gym. In fact I have a galaxy nexus and a nokia pureview and I go to an excellent gym regularly, allhamdulillah. And I am not a boy.
 
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i have a question for all the members who have posted here:

How many of you, the then singles, are now married or on the verge of getting married? ;D
 
Well he bought iphone from his money and goes to gym from his own money. I am sure if you buy your high maintenance stuff from your own money as a wife, no guy would ever have an issue with that ever.

I am not sure that can be called nifaaq/hypocrisy. Really twisted definition of nifaaq especially when he breaks no promises, he does not quarrell and the rest of that hadith.

but ooh, if my wife accepts to not work at all (or just part time 2-3 days for female patients), I'll definitely buy her her favorite phone well cuz she earns no money and cuz only then I'd truly feel like her qawwam and genuinely responsible to pay for most of her luxurious expenses. :)

It might be his money but it would make a Hypocrite if expect his wife not to work and live simple life whilst he is high maintenance, himself. If you expect your wife to be low maintenance, you should be expected to live the same. Plus, this is just mean and selfish.
Once you get married, it isn't just your money any more.
 
^^

From a neutral point of view, if the brother is unjust then fair enough. If not then one needs to ask oneself: what is reasonable spending? If it means to live comfortably but not luxuriously (unless one is rich enough to afford luxury) then the husband should provide for this. If it means spending beyond one's capabilities, causing financial strain, stress and problems then one or both of the spouses need to cut their spending.

What is considered luxury is obtaining items that are inessential but desirable which are often expensive or are difficult to obtain. These can be in the form of excessive clothing, expensive but unimportant gadgets and unnecesary casual spending of money on trivial matters for one's own entertainment or pleasure.

With this definition, it is hard to see how a phone or gym is luxury or excessive spending.

Having said all this, one needs to remember that a marriage does not work because of money or material possession. One of the many reasons for marriages not working out is due to financial strain. Financial strain is what gives new couples a very difficult start to a marriage, after having spend thousands on a wedding and beginning their married life in debt.

Marriage works with mutual cooperation, trust and commitment. It also works with making a few sacrifices for the benefit of a lasting, rich and loving relationship.

Additionally, it would be wrong for sisters to assume that brothers would be miserly towards their wife. I, for one, would have sleepless nights if I ever saw my wife in poor clothing or even see her living in difficult financial circumstances because I'm not able to provide enough for her.

Sisters should also be considerate and ask themselves if they are causing difficulty to their husbands. If the reasons to marry are because one wants to fill the gap of emptiness, have a personal neverending bank account and focus on personal gain then right now is not the right time to be married.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, each gender needs to focus on fulfilling the role that Allah has obligated upon them as a husband/wife. Financial spending is only one part of it, as is protecting yourself from hell fire, raising a righteous family and making sure that one's spouse remains a "covering/clothing", as Allah mentions in Qur'an.
 
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I agree with so much of the post above it's unreal.

You have to be reasonable in marriage and learn to compromise.

The first few months or year of marriage is never a bed of roses and I can testify to that, all of a sudden somebody who is used to making money and spending it on the necessities (Bills & rent etc), is having to look after and provide for his lovely new wife, that will most likely never be easy for anybody. I dislike when marriage becomes all about money and buying things and having your own house and belongings, I mean don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with it if you can comfortably afford it but if you can't, just concentrate on being married and doing shukr :)

Edit: I havn't read the last page of the thread properly so don't really know what's being discussed but those are just my thoughts based on the last few posts
 
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If a brother was to ask and expect me to be low maintenance. I would ask what phone he has, whether he attends gym weekly and goes out with his friends to nice restaurant. If his answer is sumsung galaxy three or iPhone 5 plus tablet, does attend gym and goes with his friends. I would run a mile.....


Because he would be a Hypocrite.


And if he was to mention how he is the leader of the household WITHOUT mentioning that he would ask your opinion and consider it. I would run a mile.

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I can't believe someone has 99 question. Most of you need more then one meeting.


I am seriously wondering if I should cut down now.

I have a cracked screen google nexus phone (2 years old now), I dont go gym but I do ponder over getting another contract which has EE (everything everywhere) 4g network with really good navigation because during my job I am always on the move and need to use my GPRS.


I dont go gym but I do have a laptop (3 years old).


To be honest I dont think these things make me high maintenance. I got them during my single life... doesnt mean I will insist ion such things after marriage.

After marriage I will give my partner more priority then myself... so I think its a bit harsh to judge someone as high maintenance/hypocritical if he insists on low maintenance because he in turn would be willing to sacrifice.



hope that makes sense inshAllah
 

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