Whats going on?

[islamirama]

Here comes the east/west debate I knew would happen.
Its unacceptable from any man , but especially from a Muslim man.

well you so wonderfully showed your resentment towards east and Muslim men as if they are the scum of the earth, thought i show you the there's worst men out there who love raping your muslim sisters in iraq, palestine, somalia and other such places, often 10 men to one poor girl. And you find the time to share your thoughts on these "so called Muslim men" while i haven't seen a thread from you concerning those at the mercy of the kuffar occupiers.

You validated my point with your own comments. The point is if you are practising Islam you wouldnt be doing this, so these Muslim men should quit raping and start fearing Allah subhana wa ta'ala !!

Yes, they should quite the haraam and join the fleet of the righteous. But guess what, the world isn't perfect. Allah gave us free will and some of them choose to use it to do evil. If they feared Allah they wouldn't have done it in the first place. But if you want to blame them then blame yourself as women of the society. No one has more influence on how a child grows up to be a man than the mother. When the Muslim women of our societies stop wasting their times in watching soaps and movies and gossiping and other haram stuff and actually study islam and live islam and teach islam, then will we see mujahids being raised. Yes, these Muslim men are bad but they are not the majority, but unpracticing women are though. Perhaps you shoudl focus your time and attention at them.

Again, point is muslims are raping women who are covered and who are not covered!!!!! Get this into your head :skeleton: or do you just want it to be the way you are describing so that men have free rein to rape uncovered women ?

"muslims are raping women" you speak as if its a widespread plague that no one is safe from. Has something personal happend to you that you went all gun ho on muslims all of a sudden?

A hindu captain came with his men to one kashmiri house, he call the man outside and had his soldiers hold the muslima man outside. He went inside and raped the wife, then he went upstair and raped a 10yr old girl who lost all sensation in her private area. How much do you know about rape victims in kashmir?

Ethopia invaded somalia recently with help from US. Soldiers were snatching veils of muslim women heads. 10 soldiers stoped a 18yr somali women and took turns raping her as she went blacking in and out. How much do you know about rape victims of somalia?

Iraqi women prison in iraq is used to toture and rape women everyday. Sometimes 20 times a day. They rape you, burn cigrettes on your breasts, torture your chest and private parts and physcially beat the hell out of you. They have women from 13yr to 50yr that are being raped. These women are hitting their heads against prison walls to kill themselves and the *******s in their stomachs from the kuffars. They have sent out plea letters asking the prison to be bombed and end their misery. How much do you know about these victims?

Zionists pigs have over 130,000 palestinian women and children in prisons. They rape the women and take pictures of the rape. then they show the pictures to the victim and tell her to keep her dam mouth shut and stay out of politics and protests and anything having to do with anti-israelism. These are their fav. tactics they have taught the hindus to use in kashmir and US forces to use in iraq. How much do you know about these palestinian rape victims?

I can go on and on, but you get the drift. right? So before you go whining about muslim men this and muslim men that, focus your attentions on more pressing matters and see what you can do for your sisters in those areas, who are in need of your voice.

Don't you realise that it will be the unrepentant rapists who might end up in boiling fire :statisfie and who will ultimately be the ones to cry. Allah subhana wa ta'ala is Just. :statisfie

Many will end up in hellfire, not just rapists. But yea rapists go to hellfire if they don't repent and what not, so let go of the topic unless you have personal vendetta to continue going?

 

[Umar001]

Am confused, I see it alot, someone says something about Muslims and another person says 'What about the Kuffar look at them'

This is exactly what my mum and I did, she would say 'try to be like such and such' and I would say 'Oh what about when that person smokes and so on' little did I realise that everyone has a fault and there is a time a place for everything.

Of course we dont want anyone raping our sisters, but this thread is nto about that.

Just because someone highlighted the problem about Muslim men raping doesnt mean that non Muslims dont rape. For goodness sake, let us be real, if we carry one like this then we never gona get anywhere.


At the same time, people should be careful of course others are sensitive to the fact that Muslims aint done all bad, and I took offence to it to, how do people think a Muslim man feels when they see, Muslim Men rape! So please becareful and good in speech!

 

[Medina83]

well you so wonderfully showed your resentment towards east and Muslim men as if they are the scum of the earth, thought i show you the there's worst men out there who love raping your muslim sisters in iraq, palestine, somalia and other such places, often 10 men to one poor girl. And you find the time to share your thoughts on these "so called Muslim men" while i haven't seen a thread from you concerning those at the mercy of the kuffar occupiers. ?

We should be better than them, thats all I have to say.
Of course Im well aware of the horrendous acts that Kuffar are doing to Muslim women and children!!
Point is Muslims are doing this aswell, so how are we differentiating ourselves from them???

And the outcry against the Kuffar is happening, look at all the outcry against Guantanemo for example. But what are we doing within our own camp?

No one has more influence on how a child grows up to be a man than the mother. When the Muslim women of our societies stop wasting their times in watching soaps and movies and gossiping and other haram stuff and actually study islam and live islam and teach islam, then will we see mujahids being raised. Yes, these Muslim men are bad but they are not the majority, but unpracticing women are though. Perhaps you shoudl focus your time and attention at them.

hmmmmm :rollseyes :? mg:


The world is not perfect that doesnt mean we should sit back and say 'well thats what the world is coming to'. You sound like a NIMBY.

"muslims are raping women" you speak as if its a widespread plague that no one is safe from. Has something personal happend to you that you went all gun ho on muslims all of a sudden? .

It is a widespread plague !
Elhamdulillah there are more righteous muslim men than these disgusting beings.

And NO i've no personal reason just an innate sense of injustice, disappointment and feeling let down by these guys. Its like being stabbed in the back by your best friend and salt in the wound is brothers like you who just prefer to shift attention to whats being done to us instead of whats going on inside our own camp because it obviously makes you uncomfortable to examine our own ranks.

"So before you go whining about muslim men this and muslim men that, focus your attentions on more pressing matters and see what you can do for your sisters in those areas, who are in need of your voice. .

Any sister or woman who is raped by a Kuffar or a Muslim is deserving of our attention!. You want me to close my eyes to the actions of people I should call brothers? You are still not getting the point! We are rightly complaining about our treatment at the hands of these Kuffar, but not about our treatment at the hands of other Muslims!!! Why is this?!?!

 

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:salamext:

This type of behaviour is disgusting.

 

[Muezzin]

People, please stick to the topic. I deleted some posts which were to do with slavery. While disproving misconceptions or outright lies about Islam is welcome, this thread is about a different topic.

Also, a general notice: disagreeing is fine, but insulting is not.

 

[islamirama]

edited.................

Our friend muzzy boy here deleted my post since i had such a great reply to your last lame reply. I won't bother WASTING my time again typing all that up. It's worthless to even type anything on this forum knowing how it will be deleted anyways, quite point less to have a debate or share your thoughts. So you go ahead enjoy your pathetic thread, i'm out of here!

 

[Medina83]

Our friend muzzy boy here deleted my post since i had such a great reply to your last lame reply. I won't bother WASTING my time again typing all that up. It's worthless to even type anything on this forum knowing how it will be deleted anyways, quite point less to have a debate or share your thoughts. So you go ahead enjoy your pathetic thread, i'm out of here!

SubhanAllah
Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa baraktouh