Glad to see people using their brains. Thank you for your input all. And Blackjubba bro, mashaAllah It's good to see you agree with there being no difference as to how images are created. To me that's just an excuse.
What's the difference between drawing and taking pictures?
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We are taught, that when we have such questions, we should ask the people of knowledege. This question, about TV, was asked of, and I offer you only a smalled paraphrased answer. The watching of TV is haram, according to the scholars. The reasons I can remember are: 1) Viewing theses types of programs exposes the Muslim to seeing people uncovered, performing all sorts of haram actions - such as fornication & adultry, which is so common nowadays, and many, many other actions that are haram and displeasing to Allah. This would also include the things you hear coming out of their mouths. Time watching TV should be spent on reading & memorizing the Qu'ran, studying Islam, and engaging in the rememberance of Allah.
Here's an example. Someone once asked some brothers (I was there) to name 10 US Presidents. Of course, being from America, it was easy. Then, we were asked to give the names of the 10 Sahaba who were gauarenteed paradise. None of us could! Although this is just a small example, think of all the time people waste watching TV, which will not benefit them in the least, yet we do not know the answer to this question. If we knew the names of these Sahaba, Insha Allah, we would want to know what they did do get this promise and try to pattern ourselves after them. Whatever they did, I'm sure they weren't wasting their time on foolishness and haram actions!
How many of us know those 10 names? Let's learn them and benefit ourselves!
Here's an example. Someone once asked some brothers (I was there) to name 10 US Presidents. Of course, being from America, it was easy. Then, we were asked to give the names of the 10 Sahaba who were gauarenteed paradise. None of us could! Although this is just a small example, think of all the time people waste watching TV, which will not benefit them in the least, yet we do not know the answer to this question. If we knew the names of these Sahaba, Insha Allah, we would want to know what they did do get this promise and try to pattern ourselves after them. Whatever they did, I'm sure they weren't wasting their time on foolishness and haram actions!
How many of us know those 10 names? Let's learn them and benefit ourselves!
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The scholars have said that watching TV is haram, because the Muslim is exposing him or herself to that which is haram, such as people performing lewdness, being uncovered, and all sorts of haram actions. Not to mention the amount of time wasted when one could be studying this deen, memorizing Qu'ran or engaging in zhikr - Remeberance of Allah.
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i agree with black.....and time consuming thats really the key you know, when you can use that time for other things....soo partysovrkids well leave the playstation to you
With regards to televised images of living things. I believe there is a difference as you're viewing things as you would in real life i.e. moving as they do in reality. The point is in displaying still images, which are prohibited. And that is regardless of whether they are hand-made or photos. As far as games are concerned, I feel these are a waste of time and money. Time that could be spent wisely to gain knowledge, help others and money that could help to feed and clothe a hungry soul. If we didn't waste so much money on useless things, someone, somewhere, would be suffering less than they are.
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Televised images are just a group of still pictures played in rapid succession. The same with movies. You may have to get rid of your T.V.
Technology is not the issue here not that I know much about it either. But whether they are still pictures played rapidly, those images still appear as natural movement. It's like me watching my family on webcam. Once it's switched off, that's is. It's not a permanent fixture. It is not the same as sticking up a photo or poster for display. Moving images on a film are shown, not displayed or exhibited for admiration. But you might be right about me getting rid of my TV. But that's because of my personal choice to do something more useful with my time instead.
I'd still be interested in what you have to say if you want to refute my argument. It might turn out that you have a valid point. Remember though although the prohibition in Islam applies to displaying/making likenesses of living images as ornamental objects, our opinions also based on common sense when relating to televised pictures. The way I see it is that televised pictures are not ornamental displays. But let's see if you could prove me wrong.
I'd still be interested in what you have to say if you want to refute my argument. It might turn out that you have a valid point. Remember though although the prohibition in Islam applies to displaying/making likenesses of living images as ornamental objects, our opinions also based on common sense when relating to televised pictures. The way I see it is that televised pictures are not ornamental displays. But let's see if you could prove me wrong.
I agree it is not a necessity to survive. Not for me anyway. But try telling that to someone who is house-bound, a recluse, an agrophobic, anyone who is unable to socialise that TV is not a necessity. Different things become a necessity to different inviduals due to different reasons. This is aside from religion. However I don't see how you perceive televised images as ornamental? Ornamental display is for self-indulgence/ostentation - something that is decoratively pleasing to oneself. I don't see how a TV fits into that catagory. Especially when watching news of poverty, murders, rapes, child-abductions, war etc etc. But if that is your perception of ornamental display, then there is nothing I can do to change it. Everyone views things differently and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Tell that to the RSPCA.
I'd have been the only person on my street with a pet badger if it wasn't for those meddling kids.
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As some scholars say photography is not included in the prohibition. Therefore I assume they allow these pictures to be displayed too. It wouldnt make sense if you were allowed to take them but not display them right? That would defeat the whole purpose. Based on this (their) ruling, I'd like to ask those who agree with it one question... If there was a picture/portrait of a living person/animal, on the wall where you face the kabaah to perform salah, would you feel comfortable praying in front of the picture? If you wouldn't then why not? Remember even though your intention is to pray to Allah alone. Ok, I guess that's two questions now.
I'm really interested in hearing your answers. Be honest.
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I'm really interested in hearing your answers. Be honest.
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Whats the difference between drawing and taking pics?
Hmm lemme think :uhwhat
Well well well:rollseyes
Taking pictures is capturing something which is really there
DRAWING is drawing something out of ur imagination?
Hmm those cartoonists have some wild weird fake imagination. Well lets just call it lame art
Hmm lemme think :uhwhat
Well well well:rollseyes
Taking pictures is capturing something which is really there
DRAWING is drawing something out of ur imagination?
Hmm those cartoonists have some wild weird fake imagination. Well lets just call it lame art
I can draw a picture of something that is really there too. Like your portrait
So what about my question about whether you'd feel comfortable praying in front of a picture?
well again intention matters, but i'll make sure its nt a pic of a person, i usually pray in front of ma table, and there is a pic of ma rabbit there. But i pray anyway, becos in ma heart i made intention to pray to Allah nt to ma beloved rabbit
i can only make real life sketches of people, but i cant paint or color them
i can only make real life sketches of people, but i cant paint or color them
Thank you for your reply. Of course intention matters and your reply shows you would not feel comfortable if it was a pic of a person. Neither would I. I mean I have no pictures at all of any living thing in my home/bedroom. I wonder if this discomfort is our muslim instinct telling us that it's wrong.
even though deep in our heart we know we r praying to allah only, the pic tends to disturb us. So its better to remove it to gain a peace of mind, rather than praying with ur mind thinking and worrying abt that picture
Good girl :happy: That's exactly my point. Why does it disturb us? If it were a picture of flowers, the sea, mountains we'd wouldn't feel the same uneasiness. So why a picture of a living being?
I'm wondering if this is the explanation: ''islam means "submission" Everything and every phenomenon in the world, other than man is administered TOTALLY by God-made laws i.e. they are obedient to God and submissive to His laws i.e. they are in the STATE OF ISLAM.
Therefore, according to the above paragraph, as well as being muslim due to our beliefs & practices we are also muslim by nature. So could it be that when we do something that displeases Allah, we feel uneasy because we've gone against our muslim nature?
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[PIE]Hadith -Bukhari 5:338, Narrated Ibn Abbas
Abu Talha, a companion of Allah's Apostle and one of those who fought at Badr together with Allah's Apostle told me that Allah's Apostle said. "Angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture." He meant the images of creatures that have souls. [/PIE]
[PIE]Hadith - Sahih Bukhari 2.425, Narrated Aisha, r.a.
When the Prophet became ill, some of his wives talked about a church which they had seen in Ethiopia and it was called Mariya. Um Salma and Um Habiba had been to Ethiopia, and both of them narrated its (the Church's) beauty and the pictures it contained. The Prophet raised his head and said, "Those are the people who, whenever a pious man dies amongst them, make a place of worship at his grave and then they make those pictures in it. Those are the worst creatures in the Sight of Allah." [/PIE]
[PIE]Hadith - At-Tirmidhi
"On the Day of Resurrection a neck will stretch forth from Hell; it will have two eyes to see, two ears to hear, and a tongue to speak. It will say, "I have been appointed to take care of three types of people: every arrogant tyrant, every person who called on some deity other than Allaah (swt) and those who made pictures" [at-Tirmidhi stated that this hadith was saheeh - at-Takhweef min an-Naar, p.179, See also Jaami' al-Usool, 10/518, the editor said its isnaad is hasan] [/PIE]
Abu Talha, a companion of Allah's Apostle and one of those who fought at Badr together with Allah's Apostle told me that Allah's Apostle said. "Angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture." He meant the images of creatures that have souls. [/PIE]
[PIE]Hadith - Sahih Bukhari 2.425, Narrated Aisha, r.a.
When the Prophet became ill, some of his wives talked about a church which they had seen in Ethiopia and it was called Mariya. Um Salma and Um Habiba had been to Ethiopia, and both of them narrated its (the Church's) beauty and the pictures it contained. The Prophet raised his head and said, "Those are the people who, whenever a pious man dies amongst them, make a place of worship at his grave and then they make those pictures in it. Those are the worst creatures in the Sight of Allah." [/PIE]
[PIE]Hadith - At-Tirmidhi
"On the Day of Resurrection a neck will stretch forth from Hell; it will have two eyes to see, two ears to hear, and a tongue to speak. It will say, "I have been appointed to take care of three types of people: every arrogant tyrant, every person who called on some deity other than Allaah (swt) and those who made pictures" [at-Tirmidhi stated that this hadith was saheeh - at-Takhweef min an-Naar, p.179, See also Jaami' al-Usool, 10/518, the editor said its isnaad is hasan] [/PIE]