When Cartoons are no longer funny - Hassan Choudhury

[x Maz x]

No, It means you are free to speak your mind. If you limit free speach, it is no longer free.

So then how come Abu Hamzah got bannged up for 'inciting racial hatred' ...surley he was just flexin' his right to 'freedom of speach'??..
With 'freedom of speach' comes boundries, the reaction given by the MINORITY of Muslims regarding the charicatures were both shocking and shameful, Quite shocking how whilst they tried portraying the message of Islam they still managed to cause coruption and havock in the land whilst going out to defend the Prophet [Pbuh]'s name and honour but went against his Sunnah...SubhanAllah!...Nevertheless these are the MINORITY and do not represent Islam InshAllah [God-willing] they will be guided to deen-ul-haaq [true way of life] Peace and Blessings x

 

[searchingsoul]

So then how come Abu Hamzah got bannged up for 'inciting racial hatred' ...surley he was just flexin' his right to 'freedom of speach'??..
With 'freedom of speach' comes boundries, the reaction given by the MINORITY of Muslims regarding the charicatures were both shocking and shameful, Quite shocking how whilst they tried portraying the message of Islam they still managed to cause coruption and havock in the land whilst going out to defend the Prophet [Pbuh]'s name and honour but went against his Sunnah...SubhanAllah!...Nevertheless these are the MINORITY and do not represent Islam InshAllah [God-willing] they will be guided to deen-ul-haaq [true way of life] Peace and Blessings x

I agree. Actions often speak louder than words.

 

[HeiGou]

Well, people shouldn't have the right to insult, if we lost that right, the world will be a better place.

Well not really as "insult" is defined by the person being insulted. People all over the world get thrown in jail for "insulting the nation", "insulting the Constitution", "insulting the President". I don't see throwing someone in jail for "insulting Islam" makes much of a difference. All you do is encourage play-ground lawyers to strut about with a chip on both shoulders, an attitude and a firm determination to be insulted.

Non-Muslims should also be careful what they wish for. If they want the right to insult anyone they want, they will no longer be considered the tolerant people that they want to be.

Well we are tolerant because we all religions to be insulted. And whose leg are you pulling? Find me a thread that even hints that the Muslims here (or at any Muslim site of your choosing) think the Kafirs are tolerant.

 

[Fishman]

Well not really as "insult" is defined by the person being insulted. People all over the world get thrown in jail for "insulting the nation", "insulting the Constitution", "insulting the President". I don't see throwing someone in jail for "insulting Islam" makes much of a difference. All you do is encourage play-ground lawyers to strut about with a chip on both shoulders, an attitude and a firm determination to be insulted.



Well we are tolerant because we all religions to be insulted. And whose leg are you pulling? Find me a thread that even hints that the Muslims here (or at any Muslim site of your choosing) think the Kafirs are tolerant.

I mean big insults, like racism, or anti-semetism, or Islamophobia. I agree that you can't sue for calling someone something not very offensive.

You don't allow all religions to be insulted. In some counties in Europe, anti-semetism and holocaust denial are quite rightly punished. Islamophobia, which is definitely the cause of these cartoons, is not punnishable, and is in fact considered acceptable by many people.

 

[wilberhum]

X Maz x
If you don’t understand the difference between putting people’s lives at risk and freedom of speech, you are beyond my help.

HeiGou
People all over the world get thrown in jail for "insulting the nation”. Not if you live in a democracy.

 

[x Maz x]

If you don’t understand the difference between putting people’s lives at risk and freedom of speech, you are beyond my help.

Lol, that statement is both disturbing yet so hilarious...:rollseyes
It does exist...but then one must question to what extent are you allowed to express your 'freedom of speach'??
To the extent that you express your hatred of the government? ...Nay you are not able to do so, this would merely suggest your a terrorist...due to the famous sayin' "Your either with us or with them [terrorists]" >> dont know if its the exact words, but close enough!...so if i go saying i hate them does that imply i am a gloryfier of terrorism or a terrorist even?...
What the stupid ignorant being done by publishing such pictures expressing his 'freedom of speach' my left foot...He insults a man dearer to one than his ownself and labels it as 'freedom of speach'...wheres the boundries for that??...Double standards arising?
Your allowed to diss people's relgious beliefs and say Muslims are terrorists but you cant express how you dislike the government and their decisions??..
Well i say screw them Pshhhhh
Regards x

 

[HeiGou]

I mean big insults, like racism, or anti-semetism, or Islamophobia. I agree that you can't sue for calling someone something not very offensive.

But who defines "very offensive"? The government of course. No doubt Mubarrak thinks that insulting the President of Egypt is very very insulting.

You don't allow all religions to be insulted. In some counties in Europe, anti-semetism and holocaust denial are quite rightly punished. Islamophobia, which is definitely the cause of these cartoons, is not punnishable, and is in fact considered acceptable by many people.

Anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial have nothing to do with religion. Why do you think it is definitely the cause of these cartoons?

 

[Musaafirah]

I personally think freedom of speech is such a loose term..it differs according to each individual I guess..

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Freedom of speech? I didn't know it existed.

 

[Muezzin]

What if the cartoon had been of Charlie Brown with a bomb for a turban?

I'd laugh my socks off.

 

[x Maz x]

^ Tis a shame it wern't, instead that wastehead decided to satiriarise the blessed Prophet!...Tskkk...shame!...
Regards x

 

[HeiGou]

What if the cartoon had been of Charlie Brown with a bomb for a turban?

I'd laugh my socks off.

It is always the quiet ones, the ones you'd least suspect!

Personally I think that that damned football would drive anyone to suicide.

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

If they drew charlie brown with a bomb in his turban... it would be amusing... but it really wouldn't make sense... but i doubt any one would find that offensive.