which are the worst kind of professions.

[Fishman]

The question has aready been answered:

it a trick question? I'm guessing institutions where Islamic education is provided.

This is not a trick question or a joke. Unfortunately, this the fact.

I think most Muslims would find this thread highly offensive, scholars are wonderful valuable people who we all love and respect (except for the crazy terrorist ones)...

 

[iqbal_soofi]

The question has aready been answered:


I think most Muslims would find this thread highly offensive, scholars are wonderful valuable people who we all love and respect (except for the crazy terrorist ones)...

You're right most Muslims get very sentimental when some facts are given about the religious scholars. But it's a fact that no Muslim parents wish to send their intellegent and useful children to madrisas. Making a mullah out of their children is the last choice.

 

[Fishman]

You're right most Muslims get very sentimental when some facts are given about the religious scholars. But it's a fact that no Muslim parents wish to send their intellegent and useful children to madrisas. Making a mullah out of their children is the last choice.

I would, when I have kids I want to give them the Islamic education that I never got.

 

[iqbal_soofi]

I would, when I have kids I want to give them the Islamic education that I never got.

That's like almost all Muslim parents want. To give their children Islamic education. But nobody wants for their children to become a religious professional. There're some valid reasons for this.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Just because some of them r that way, doesnt mean they all are. If the intent of the person is good to become a religious scholar, they will not spread Jahaliyyah. Plain and simple. Instead of trying to stop kids from going into it, maybe ppl should speak up to the ones that r corrupted.

 

[iqbal_soofi]

Just because some of them r that way, doesnt mean they all are. If the intent of the person is good to become a religious scholar, they will not spread Jahaliyyah. Plain and simple. Instead of trying to stop kids from going into it, maybe ppl should speak up to the ones that r corrupted.

If only a few of em are like that then this profession wouldn't be like this. Parents make wise decision about their kind for not sending them to this profession on some reasons. Public opinion about them is not like this just because of of the bad elements. It's because of their overall impact on society. There're few bad elements in every profession including the doctors, but profession of doctors is still one of the highly respected professions.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

And being an Islamic scholar is one of the best as well to us. It cant be generalized.

 

[Snowflake]

But it's a fact that no Muslim parents wish to send their intellegent and useful children to madrisas. Making a mullah out of their children is the last choice.

That's not true. I'd be happiest if my son became a scholar, inshaAllah. I have already told him that Islamic education is better than any degree you will ever get. It's not as though he won't be able to earn a living out of it.

Btw, are we any nearer to guessing the answer?

 

[iqbal_soofi]

That's not true. I'd be happiest if my son became a scholar, inshaAllah. I have already told him that Islamic education is better than any degree you will ever get. It's not as though he won't be able to earn a living out of it.

Btw, are we any nearer to guessing the answer?

Then how do you think your son should earn his living? You mean to say that you wish your son to only get a lot of islamiyat education but he shouldn't adopt it as a profession?

Yes?

So this is what I'm saying. No parent want's his children to become a professional religious scholars. Nobody want their children to make money by selling body or iman. That's why the two professions that sell body or iman are not considered as presctable professions.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

You can be a religious scholar and have a side profession like a doctor or engineer. you say it as if its not possible.

 

[Sabbir_1]

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[angel eyes]

well a profession like drug supplying is bad and illegal

 

[iqbal_soofi]

You can be a religious scholar and have a side profession like a doctor or engineer. you say it as if its not possible.

Well that's something different. I'm talkin about the profession i.e., making a living out of it. There're only two professions which people don't want their children to adopt.

 

[north_malaysian]

You can be a religious scholar and have a side profession like a doctor or engineer. you say it as if its not possible.

Lots of religious Malaysian parents sent their children to Tahfiz institutes, for their children to memorize the Koran and be pious, for 3 years before enrolling them to universities learning medic, engineering, architecture etc...

We would like to create professionals who also memorized the holy koran and be pious...

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Then go ahead, no one is stopping anyone. I hate that fact that whats being said is you cant have a "clean" profession whilst being an Islamic Scholar. Being good in the deen will InshAllah only make u good in what you do because the person has full trust in Allah and His Mercy. I have nothing against it. Its the best profession because you will only recieve more reward in the end. I dont see whats better than that. Just because everything is expensive doesnt mean you cannot live a simple life. Its up to the person to control him/herself on useless stuff. Thats one of the tests for us. Not loving this Dunya over the real gift, which is the Akhirah.

 

[Woodrow]

Then how do you think your son should earn his living? You mean to say that you wish your son to only get a lot of islamiyat education but he shouldn't adopt it as a profession?

Yes?

So this is what I'm saying. No parent want's his children to become a professional religious scholars. Nobody want their children to make money by selling body or iman. That's why the two professions that sell body or iman are not considered as presctable professions.

Oddly enough prostitution is considered a very honorable and respected career in some cultures. There still are a few cultures in which parents do want their daughters to grow up to be prostitutes at least until they marry.


Although that is not the view of any of the monotheiestic religions nor of modern western culture.

 

[iqbal_soofi]

Lots of religious Malaysian parents sent their children to Tahfiz institutes, for their children to memorize the Koran and be pious, for 3 years before enrolling them to universities learning medic, engineering, architecture etc...

We would like to create professionals who also memorized the holy koran and be pious...

This is not my personal opinion that this is one of the worst profession. This is a general opinion of all wise parents. They may or may not send their children to learn/memorize Quran, but they don't want to make mullahs out of them Even the religious parentsl want their children to be engineers or doctors or some other honorable profession. They send them to lean Quran but like them to be engineers or doctors not the professional religious scholars. This is one of the two worst professions to which any parents would like their children to adopt. Only the prostitues like their children to adopt prostitution as a profession, and same goes for mullahs.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Then go tell Yusuf Estes or Zakir Naik that their profession is bad...we'll see how that turns out :X

 

[Snowflake]

=iqbal_soofi;627041]Then how do you think your son should earn his living? You mean to say that you wish your son to only get a lot of islamiyat education but he shouldn't adopt it as a profession?

Yes?

I said it's not as if he CAN'T earn a living out of it. He can open Islamic education centres/schools etc. Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) instituted salaries for muslims soldiers, because they needed to earn a living. That doesn't mean they were selling their imaan fighting for islam. Imaans and Mu'addhins (callers to prayer) were also given salaries. Were they selling their imaan?

So this is what I'm saying. No parent want's his children to become a professional religious scholars. Nobody want their children to make money by selling body or iman. That's why the two professions that sell body or iman are not considered as presctable professions.

Brother, earning money based on religious occupations does not amount to selling one's imaan. The meaning of 'selling one's imaan' implies tricking and deceiting people, e.g. compromising one's imaan for material/personal gain.

I don't know how you can put religious scholars in the same bracket as prostitues. Na udhu billah!

Tayyaba
Then go tell Yusuf Estes or Zakir Naik that their profession is bad...we'll see how that

exactly!

 

[Malaikah]

I can't think of an occupation more respectable than being a scholar of Islam!

Even though I do not agree with iqbal_soofi's approach, I admit that he does have a point that too many people these days act like being a doctor or a lawyer is the best thing in the world (when it isn't because of how easily both professions can lead to haram when practiced in non muslim countries!) and that every thing else, including being a scholar of the deen is something secondary to that.

How often do we heard people suggesting to youngsters that they become a doctor, a law, a dentist, but why don't we ever heard anyone suggesting that they take on a professional education in Islam?

That's the reality these days unfortunately... as far as I can see anyway.