Which Maddhab do you follow?

[Scimitar]

Generally speaking, all four madhabs agree with each other anyway and only differ on minor points which are really not my concern and do not affect my practice or understanding of Islam.

Scimi

 

[ardianto]

There are only two madhabs in Indonesia. Shafi'i and non-madhabi. One difference between these two madhabs is, Shafi'i perform dua qunoot in salah subh, while non-madhabi do not. But how a masjid accomodate this difference?. Simple, hold salah subuh jamaah twice.

 

[Scimitar]

That's weird

 

[ardianto]

That's weird

But it's better than sharing the room where two groups perform salah subuh together. The problem of sharing the room is Imam's voices that can ruin concentration. Imagine if your group share a room with other other group which Imam in both group recite salah loudly. You would be hard to concentrate because you could hear the voice of Imam from another group too.

So, sharing the time is the best choice, although in this matter the majority get privilege to perform salah subh first.

 

[noraina]

The difference between madhabs overall differ on the most minor of details (the most significant thing I can think of is salah, of course). I am studying Islam in further detail and I've just recently come across mention of the different madhabs and their rulings.

Where I live, I believe the vast, vast majority of hanafi. I've never met anyone who has said they're otherwise.

 

[AabiruSabeel]

But how a masjid accomodate this difference?. Simple, hold salah subuh jamaah twice.

I don't think it is something over which two Jama'ah must be made. The prayer of one madhhab follower behind the other is valid, because the differences are only with respect to minor things that do not invalidate the prayer.

 

[ardianto]

I don't think it is something over which two Jama'ah must be made. The prayer of one madhhab follower behind the other is valid, because the differences are only with respect to minor things that do not invalidate the prayer.

Indeed, but the problem is there are always people who feel uncomfortable if perform salah in different way. But actually this happen only in some masjid where the number of jama'ah from 'minority' is big enough.

 

[azc]

I make salaah the hanafi way because that is how I was tuaght, but I follow no madhab as I never required it.I find Islam is simple and natural. I don't require explanations because the questions I once had, are now answered through study and lecture.Scimi

also I'm hanafi. I assert on this aspect of not adhering to any madhab that it is quite a bold statement which nobody could dare say from 4th century till 150 years ago. Leave laymen even the scholars were hardly found speaking so boldly: I think following one of the madhab is better for our iman and amal. However, everyone has liberty-- what to choose and what to pick

 

[azc]

Imam al-Nawawi said in the introduction ofal-Majmu(1/93):....“Second: It is incumbent on him-to adhere to a Madhab- and it applies to all those from the jurists and scholars of all the sciences who do not reach the rank of ijtihad. The reason for it is that if it was permissible to follow any Madhab he pleases it would lead to seeking out dispensations of the Madhab’s by following his desires. Thus he would choose between the lawful and prohibited, obligation and permissibility, and that would lead to the freeing of the leash of legal responsibility.”

 

[Scimitar]

which madhab was the prophet pbuh?

Scimi

 

[azc]

which madhab was the prophet pbuh?Scimi

4 madhab are 'explanation' of the deen of prophet s.a.w

 

[Scimitar]

4 madhab are 'explanation' of the deen of prophet s.a.w

I don't require it, I gravitate naturally towards the contextual understanding of what I study. The Prophet pbuh didn't require any madhab, you know the history of why the four schools were necessitated, and you know why it is not necessary to choose one if you have no reason to.

Some people require it, others do not. It's as simple as that.

Quoting a scholar who claims everyone should choose a madhab or else, just makes me cringe at the haughtiness of the narrative. I'm sure there was a context to why he made the statement, but it would have only applied to a people who would be arguing and confused about their deen.

Today, in this modern world where we have so much information on all topics, including Islam, with translated works which were previously unavailable to the common man, being now extant and in circulation for free on the world wide web - as well as the physical copies of said works being available for purchase in both, shops and online, anyone can study Islam to a level which ensures they have grasped the essential belief, practice and moral fortitude of the religion.

In the past, before printing presses became a thing, it was the scholars who would articulate the nuanced understandings for the common Muslim.

The scholars still do, and there is nothing that, in fact, the wise say spending an hour with a scholar is better reading 100 books.

Allahu alam, even the scholars had to read books.

I wonder if Imam al Nawawi (may Allah be pleased with him) could have foreseen the age we live in today. I highly doubt he could have known the internet and printing presses would become a thing.

Scimi

 

[oneday]

السلام علیکم I am Shia. I am pleased that Member Muslims of site. not important i am shia. it is important: when i know the truth then i accept it. جزاکم الله خیرا

 

[azc]

[MENTION=31950]Scimitar[/MENTION] : Brother, what you've said I don't claim to be wrong though but the fact which you pretermit is that people like imam nawwi ra or hafiz ibn hajar ra who had deep knowledge of Quran hadith, nevertheless, they were the followers of Hz imam Shafi'i ra. Why..? Moreover, the people who were the followers of either of the 4 madhab didn't need to see the translated version of scriptures, rather, they're arabi speaking people and had accessibility to Quran and hadith but they preferred to follow this tradition instead of delving into scriptures themselves.

 

[OmAbdullah]

Asalaamualaykum
No - I don't think so.

To learn one madab on its own is years and years of study.

Also you must understand that knowing the masaail of a madhab is actually the easy part, knowing the derivation of it is totally another.

Very beautiful topic, but I don't think any place would attempt to teach it as it gets VERY complex.

Why do you call it beautiful topic???? After Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam, dividing Islam into four different ways and breaking the Ummatul Muslimah into four different sects--------- is it beauty?

 

[OmAbdullah]

also I'm hanafi. I assert on this aspect of not adhering to any madhab that it is quite a bold statement which nobody could dare say from 4th century till 150 years ago. Leave laymen even the scholars were hardly found speaking so boldly: I think following one of the madhab is better for our iman and amal. However, everyone has liberty-- what to choose and what to pick

Everyone must know that the imams (Abu Hanifah, Maalik, Hanbal and Shaaf'ee) were great scholars who themselves used to follow the Holy Quraan and Sunnah. Like Abu Bakar Siddeeq rAa, they also had told their people and students, "If we follow the Quraan and Sunnah correctly, then follow us, but if we make a mistake, then don't follow us and correct us".


It was only later when the enemies exaggerated the things. They associated many false things to those imams and tried to divide the Ummah. I heard that at the time of Shah Fesal there were four prayer rugs in the Ka'ba Shareefah. One day Shah Fesal came to the Haram Shareef and saw those four different rugs. He asked about them. He was told that they belonged to the four different madhaahib. He ordered to remove them all. It is one Islam and one Muslim Ummah!


In the light of the Quraan and Sunnah, such inventions are bida' (innovation). All bida' are misleading and all misleading lead to Hell.


You can call them scholars and respect them like all scholars. But no divisions in Deen Islam and no divisions in the Ummah.

We take help from good scholars, try to learn from their books but we must be careful that whatever the scholar says, is according to the Holy Quraan and Sunnah. For that purpose we must try to understand the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah. Remember that the Holy Quraan is made very easy for admonition. So you can learn it easily even if you don't know Arabic, you can learn it through good translation.

 

[OmAbdullah]

Yea that is Gluenism not Islam. He is just a liberal guy you are following, not a sunni scholar. We should follow Quran and Sunnah not any movement guy who promotes otherwise.

Very Correct, Jazaak-Allaho khera

 

[azc]

Everyone must know that the imams (Abu Hanifah, Maalik, Hanbal and Shaaf'ee) were great scholars who themselves used to follow the Holy Quraan and Sunnah. Like Abu Bakar Siddeeq rAa, they also had told their people and students, "If we follow the Quraan and Sunnah correctly, then follow us, but if we make a mistake, then don't follow us and correct us".It was only later when the enemies exaggerated the things. They associated many false things to those imams and tried to divide the Ummah. I heard that at the time of Shah Fesal there were four prayer rugs in the Ka'ba Shareefah. One day Shah Fesal came to the Haram Shareef and saw those four different rugs. He asked about them. He was told that they belonged to the four different madhaahib. He ordered to remove them all. It is one Islam and one Muslim Ummah!In the light of the Quraan and Sunnah, such inventions are bida' (innovation). All bida' are misleading and all misleading lead to Hell.You can call them scholars and respect them like all scholars. But no divisions in Deen Islam and no divisions in the Ummah. We take help from good scholars, try to learn from their books but we must be careful that whatever the scholar says, is according to the Holy Quraan and Sunnah. For that purpose we must try to understand the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah. Remember that the Holy Quraan is made very easy for admonition. So you can learn it easily even if you don't know Arabic, you can learn it through good translation.

i assume that you listen to the lectures of salafi scholars. Same story, same logic is regurgated on internet and in books over and over again to veer off the people from ages long path of ummah and how to make them the followers of salafi scholars in the name of following Quran and hadith in true sense.

 

[OmAbdullah]

i assume that you listen to the lectures of salafi scholars. Same story, same logic is regurgated on internet and in books over and over again to veer off the people from ages long path of ummah and how to make them the followers of salafi scholars in the name of following Quran and hadith in true sense.

You are struggling very hard to make the name Muslim and Islam disappear and the Muslims should get lost into the names Ahnaaf, Hanaabil, Malikee and Shaafi'ee. What strange names!!! I wonder. When I was small I heard from my parents that they were Hanafi But there was no word Ahnaaf. In my 8th grade when I didn't know the tafseer of the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah, I asked my father, " When Deen is only one and that is Islam then why are there 4 madhaahib?"

My father just said, " they say that there are four madhaahib and (Allah Knows). In fact my question was reasonable and there was no reasonable answer to it. Later I learnt the tafseer of the Holy Quraan and then I went to the Islamic University where I had to argue a lot because all of the teachings were coming in contradictory forms. There were two kinds of books and also two kinds of the teachers. One kind was in accordance with the Holy Quraan and Sunnah, very clear like bright day and the other kind were the invented form going against the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah. One type of books gave the true stories of the past scholars and also told about their actions when the printing machines were invented. The honest teachers used to be polite and always encouraged me. But the other type were very hard, like you trying to enforce the invented theories. So I learned the facts from the Holy Quraan and also in my post graduate studies, not from the internet.



You are calling the madhaahib' history ages long. But you are forgetting that the oldest way is that of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. Islam was completed in the presence of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. No more addition or division is allowed. Yes! Allah said in the Holy Quraan:


[h=2]3. Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.[/h]
(Surah Al-Maa'idah verse 3)


So you must remember that the madhaahib were invented long after Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam!!!

 

[azc]

You are struggling very hard to make the name Muslim and Islam disappear and the Muslims should get lost into the names Ahnaaf, Hanaabil, Malikee and Shaafi'ee. What strange names!!! I wonder. When I was small I heard from my parents that they were Hanafi But there was no word Ahnaaf. In my 8th grade when I didn't know the tafseer of the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah, I asked my father, " When Deen is only one and that is Islam then why are there 4 madhaahib?" My father just said, " they say that there are four madhaahib and (Allah Knows). In fact my question was reasonable and there was no reasonable answer to it. Later I learnt the tafseer of the Holy Quraan and then I went to the Islamic University where I had to argue a lot because all of the teachings were coming in contradictory forms. There were two kinds of books and also two kinds of the teachers. One kind was in accordance with the Holy Quraan and Sunnah, very clear like bright day and the other kind were the invented form going against the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah. One type of books gave the true stories of the past scholars and also told about their actions when the printing machines were invented. The honest teachers used to be polite and always encouraged me. But the other type were very hard, like you trying to enforce the invented theories. So I learned the facts from the Holy Quraan and also in my post graduate studies, not from the internet.You are calling the madhaahib' history ages long. But you are forgetting that the oldest way is that of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. Islam was completed in the presence of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. No more addition or division is allowed. Yes! Allah said in the Holy Quraan:[h=2]3. Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.[/h](Surah Al-Maa'idah verse 3) So you must remember that the madhaahib were invented long after Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam!!!

the same claim I see from hadith rejectors regarding hadith collections.