Which Maddhab do you follow?

[OmAbdullah]

the same claim I see from hadith rejectors regarding hadith collections.

What the rejectors of Hadeeth do is their responsibility. I am not responsible for their kuffar. Allah is very just. Allah's Justice is not like yours!!!

 

[azc]

What the rejectors of Hadeeth do is their responsibility. I am not responsible for their kuffar. Allah is very just. Allah's Justice is not like yours!!!

how do you follow islam... ?

 

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how do you follow islam... ?

That's the title of a thread which you should make lol, not a question which would take this thread more off topic than it already is - you have an uncanny habit of doing this.

Your question, reminds me of this advert lol:

Scimi

 

[azc]

That's the title of a thread which you should make lol, not a question which would take this thread more off topic than it already is - you have an uncanny habit of doing this. Your question, reminds me of this advert lol:

Scimi

Q is related to topic, give the answer, if you want to discuss this topic further.

 

[Scimitar]

What exactly is it you wish to discuss? I've already said what I had to say, for me this topic is a non issue. But for you, it is a fitan, clearly.

So do enlighten us, as to what exactly it is, you wish to discuss.

Scimi

 

[azc]

What exactly is it you wish to discuss? I've already said what I had to say, for me this topic is a non issue. But for you, it is a fitan, clearly.So do enlighten us, as to what exactly it is, you wish to discuss.Scimi

whether you follow a madhab or not is your personal matter and how you follow Islam, either delving yourself into scriptures or following the prevalent madhab... It's not a big deal for me....... My simple question (How do you follow Islam..?) is not difficult to be replied, I think so

 

[abuahmed]

Assalam Alaykum, discussing about MADHAB to follow is sincerily important and interresting, however I think it is better to start from the beginning: the meaning of MADHAB.
Many of us seem to be knowlegeable about its meaning, still after rereading the reply of others, you surely see that it is vague for them.
Once we agree on its meaning, we may INCHALLAH move forward and continue our discussion.
Discussions may be so fruitful when they are organised and followed step by step with mutual respect.
So Brother/Sister, what does the word MADHAB means to you?
Please be a POSITIVE contributor! CHOUKRANE

 

[Yahya.]

You are calling the madhaahib' history ages long. But you are forgetting that the oldest way is that of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. Islam was completed in the presence of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. No more addition or division is allowed. Yes! Allah said in the Holy Quraan:


3. Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


(Surah Al-Maa'idah verse 3)


So you must remember that the madhaahib were invented long after Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam!!!

The madhahib aren't an invention (bid'ah), just like the division of 'ilm into fiqh, hadith, and tafseer are not a bid'ah. Did the prophet (saw) divide knowledge into these categories? No, but the foundation of this lies in the Quran. (Imam Shatibi gives this example in his book al-i'tisaam) These are derived from the Quran. Allah (swt) says: ''so ask the people of the message if you do not know.'' (21:6) The path of the madhahib lead to the companions. Imam Abu Hanifah for example studied under the students of Abdullah ibn Mas'ood in Kufah (Iraq), and Imam Shafi'i was a student of Imam Muhammad, the student of Imam Abu Hanifah. Imam Muhammad had inherited great wealth and he financially supported Imam Shafi'i, so how can this be a division? The madhahib are certainly not preventing brotherhood, just as races are not. We are following Quran and Sunnah through the madhahib whose scholars derive the rules out of these by making ijtihad. How can you expect from the general people ('awaam),a farmer, a worker, to study the religion until he's able to make ijtihad himself, while most people don't even have the sufficient profession in the Arabic language yet? Surely he will ask a scholar in his surrounding, if he lives in Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan or Afghanistan he'll probably get the answer from a Hanafi scholars, if he lives for example in Syria or Yemen from a Shafi'i scholar, in Saudi-Arabia from a Hanbali and in West Africa from a Maliki scholar. All of these scholars rule upon Quran and Sunnah.

Amr ibn Al-As reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “If a judge makes a ruling, striving to apply his reasoning (ijtihad) and he is correct, then he will have two rewards. If a judge makes a ruling, striving to apply his reasoning and he is mistaken, then he will have one reward.” Source: Sahih Bukhari 6919, Sahih Muslim 1716


Harith ibn Amr reported: Some men among the companions of Mu’adh said the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent him to Yemen and the Prophet said:
كَيْفَ تَقْضِي How will you judge?
Mu’adh said, “I will judge according to what is in the Book of Allah.”
The Prophet said: فَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ What if it is not in the Book of Allah?
Mu’adh said, “Then with the tradition (sunnah) of the Messenger of Allah.”
The Prophet said: فَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ فِي سُنَّةِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ What if it is not in the tradition of the Messenger of Allah?
Mu’adh said, “Then I will strive to form an opinion (ijtihad).”
The Prophet said: الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذِي وَفَّقَ رَسُولَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ All praise is due to Allah who has made suitable the messenger of the Messenger of Allah.
Source: Sunan At-Tirmidhi 1327, Grade: Sahih

"If we follow the Quraan and Sunnah correctly, then follow us, but if we make a mistake, then don't follow us and correct us".

Just as you said yourself, they told this to their students. Are students of those times equal to the people of today? By studying you could reach a level near to them, that's possible, but you even included general people! Someone just by reading some ahadith and the Quran part time can't make rules on matters of religion, that would cause a greater division than the apparent division you claim, brother.

Holy Quraan is made very easy for admonition. So you can learn it easily even if you don't know Arabic, you can learn it through good translation.

For admonition, of course, but not for making rule on matters concerning fiqh or even 'aqeedah! Quran has muhkam and mutashaabih verses (reference: Quran, 03/07), muhkam verses, which constitute of approximately 500 verses, can be understood by the common people, but some even dare to talk on 'aqeedah referring to mutashabih verses. Mutashabih verses are where words can indicate more than one meaning, for example.

 

[M.I.A.]

http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=45&verse=17

im assuming the above does not relate to the muslims.. although im am not qualified to interpret quran.. im a laymen at best.

but if the differing is only a little and in interpretation then the above really does not apply..

there should not be any real animosity between them/us.

 

[azc]

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/madhhab.htm

 

[azc]

Definition : ''The Madhab is the facilitated version of Islamic jurisprudence driven from Quran and Sunnah in accordance with certain rules of/by mujtahidin ra who'd uncanny Islamic vision and extra ordinary deep knowledge of Islamic scriptures, followed and acclaimed by almost all famous personalities of all branches of Islamic science''

 

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My simple question (How do you follow Islam..?) is not difficult to be replied, I think so

Dude, that's between me and Allah, and definitely none of your business. And has nothing to do with this thread.

Stop being idiotic.

Scimi

 

[azc]

Dude, that's between me and Allah, and definitely none of your business. And has nothing to do with this thread.Stop being idiotic.Scimi

then, why are you taking interest in this thread...? Hope you'll stay away from my post in this thread.

 

[Scimitar]

then, why are you taking interest in this thread...? Hope you'll stay away from my post in this thread.

quite simply, to place you on the naughty step, lol

Scimi

 

[azc]

quite simply, you place you on the naughty step, lolScimi

again............????????

 

[Scimitar]

again............????????

Dude, don't make this thread about you and me - keep it on topic.

make your points, wait for opinions, and respond - but stay on topic.

If I read something I do not agree with, or something I like, something which interests me, or if I have something to share - I will take part in a thread.

Hope you'll stay away from my post in this thread.

Wishful thinking You don't own this forum. It's free membership, we are all welcome. All I get from you, is noise.

Scimi

EDIT: you can't even follow this topic properly, and you're talking about following madhabs bro... come on. WAKE UP.

 

[azc]

Dude, don't make this thread about you and me - keep it on topic.make your points, wait for opinions, and respond - but stay on topic.If I read something I do not agree with, or something I like, something which interests me, or if I have something to share - I will take part in a thread. Wishful thinking You don't own this forum. It's free membership, we are all welcome. All I get from you, is noise.Scimi

I want to discuss this topic with someone who's knowledge of fiqh and hadith, you are lacking wherein

 

[Scimitar]

what qualifies you to discuss such matters? Are you a scholar or student of knowledge? Do you have an ustaad who comes from an unbroken chain of teachers following the traditions of the madhab you sponsor? Are you qualified to discuss these matters?

If the answer is no - you think too highly of yourself.

Laymen, should not attempt to be scholars, you're just some guy on the web - if you want to know about the madhabs, or fiqh - go to scholars you muppet - not to people on forums... sheesh.

Like I said, all I hear from you, is noise. You cause fitan here.

Scimi

 

[azc]

what qualifies you to discuss such matters? Are you a scholar or student of knowledge? Do you have an ustaad who comes from an unbroken chain of teachers following the traditions of the madhab you sponsor? Are you qualified to discuss these matters?If the answer is no - you think too highly of yourself.Laymen, should not attempt to be scholars, you're just some guy on the web - if you want to know about the madhabs, or fiqh - go to scholars you muppet - not to people on forums... sheesh.Like I said, all I hear from you, is noise. You cause fitan here.Scimi

What qualifications you have to say ''I don't need a madhab''. Even the muhaddisin, mufassirin and scholars followed 4 madhab and still follow. You are neither a scholar nor a muhaddis, nevertheless, you defy the madhabs ;and for me, you want me to be scholar to discuss this thread...? Strange logic..!

 

[Scimitar]

You read my post where I said I didn't require one.

The Prophet pbuh didn't inform me of one - neither did he inform you of one.

I have no problems with those who wish to adopt a madhab - good for them, but for me, I never really questioned the Qur'an or the Sunnah to need explanations of matters which really do not affect me personally.

Seriously bro, I've seen people get twisted over which way to make salaah is the correct way, hands down by the sides, folded at the naval, or at the breast etc... stupid crap like this.

I was taught hanafi way, to make salaah, the majority do it this way, so I am fine - other things do not affect me either, and should I have an issue with some matter in Islam, I can do my own research, and also read the opinions of scholars and come to my own conclusion.

Allah gave me a brain, I don't need someone else to do my thinking for me. Others may, I have no issue with that. So far, I have not said anything on this forum which could be considered kufr, so I do not believe I have to change anything about myself in that sense.

You can opine away as much as you like, but you seem to ignore my posts in this thread because it all goes in one ear and out the other.

Naughty step, now. You been a bad little boy.

Pay attention to people when they take the time to respond to you, bro.

Islam is simple, matters of conflict are not. Glean from that what you will.

Scimi