Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj?
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Re: Yajuj and Majuj (Gog and Magog)
and for Yajuj wa Majuj or Gog & Magog, they are actually the Caucasians aka the whiteman.Having said that,not all of them are cruel people.It's reality,have you all wondered why they are called caucasians regardless of what their nationalities are? If you look at the history of the eastern & western european people,their ancestors came from the caucasus region which is of course Russia to be exact.they are non other than the Slavs & Teutonic,which the latter well known as Anglo-Saxon,and the wall that Zulqarnain built is called the "Caucasian Wall", get it ? Today, they have already come out from the wall and they are all over the place,North,Central,South America ,Europe,Middle-East,Africa,Asia,Australia,New Zealand,China,everywhere, you name it.
Another interesting facts;inthe bible Ezekiel 39:1-2," I will turn you about and drive you, I will fetch you up from the far recesses of the north... and it shall come to pass in that day,that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel..." .I really believe that most of the Israelis/Zionists are not the decendants of the 12 tribes of Prophet Jacob a.s.Have you heard of the 13th tribe ? Yes, they are the Khazarias who originated from the Caucasus region,whom of course the decendants of Gog & Magog,which they falsely claims to be of Jewish origin but they aren't.They are the ones whom the bible refers to.It will happen during Armageddon,the war between the supporters of Dajjal & Al-Mahdi,Prophet Isa a.s and Muslims.
and for Yajuj wa Majuj or Gog & Magog, they are actually the Caucasians aka the whiteman.Having said that,not all of them are cruel people.It's reality,have you all wondered why they are called caucasians regardless of what their nationalities are? If you look at the history of the eastern & western european people,their ancestors came from the caucasus region which is of course Russia to be exact.they are non other than the Slavs & Teutonic,which the latter well known as Anglo-Saxon,and the wall that Zulqarnain built is called the "Caucasian Wall", get it ? Today, they have already come out from the wall and they are all over the place,North,Central,South America ,Europe,Middle-East,Africa,Asia,Australia,New Zealand,China,everywhere, you name it.
Another interesting facts;inthe bible Ezekiel 39:1-2," I will turn you about and drive you, I will fetch you up from the far recesses of the north... and it shall come to pass in that day,that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel..." .I really believe that most of the Israelis/Zionists are not the decendants of the 12 tribes of Prophet Jacob a.s.Have you heard of the 13th tribe ? Yes, they are the Khazarias who originated from the Caucasus region,whom of course the decendants of Gog & Magog,which they falsely claims to be of Jewish origin but they aren't.They are the ones whom the bible refers to.It will happen during Armageddon,the war between the supporters of Dajjal & Al-Mahdi,Prophet Isa a.s and Muslims.
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"Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh:
That one day Allah's Apostle entered upon her in a state of fear and said: None has the right to be worshipped but Allah! Woe to the Arabs from the great Evil that has approached (them). Today a hole has been opened in the dam of Gog and Magog like this. The Prophet made a circle with his index finger and thum. Zainab bint Jahsh added: I said: O Allah's Apostle! Shall we be destroyed though there will be righteous people among us? The Prophet said: Yes, if the (number) of evil (persons) increased." (Sahih Bukhari)
I got this from the book "Jerusalem in the Quran" written by Imran N. Hosein. The writer analyzed chains of events and concluded that Gog and Magog have been released even during (or immediately after) the Prophet's time and that today they no longer existed as single entities, tribes or nations, rather they have mixed around with Europeans.
Ever wondered why Christian Crusaders from Europe fought zealously to "liberate" Jerusalem from the Fatimids? And after that they butchered everyone till blood were ankle deep?
And that why Zionists today who insisted on creation of Israel and their bloody treatment of Palestinian Arabs? Ever wondered that most of them Zionists were not Jews by blood, rather from European descent who embraced Judaism?
www.kahf.org
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"Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh:
That one day Allah's Apostle entered upon her in a state of fear and said: None has the right to be worshipped but Allah! Woe to the Arabs from the great Evil that has approached (them). Today a hole has been opened in the dam of Gog and Magog like this. The Prophet made a circle with his index finger and thum. Zainab bint Jahsh added: I said: O Allah's Apostle! Shall we be destroyed though there will be righteous people among us? The Prophet said: Yes, if the (number) of evil (persons) increased." (Sahih Bukhari)
I got this from the book "Jerusalem in the Quran" written by Imran N. Hosein. The writer analyzed chains of events and concluded that Gog and Magog have been released even during (or immediately after) the Prophet's time and that today they no longer existed as single entities, tribes or nations, rather they have mixed around with Europeans.
Ever wondered why Christian Crusaders from Europe fought zealously to "liberate" Jerusalem from the Fatimids? And after that they butchered everyone till blood were ankle deep?
And that why Zionists today who insisted on creation of Israel and their bloody treatment of Palestinian Arabs? Ever wondered that most of them Zionists were not Jews by blood, rather from European descent who embraced Judaism?
www.kahf.org
http://www.onejamaat.com
Care for new round of discussion? I'm open.
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Hey i haven't read all the posts coz it's just 2 long but i know that the Ya'juj and Ma'juj came from one of the sons of Musa (a.s.) i think it was Yaafith. Also i think they are all the zionist jews.
There are supposed to be only twelve groups of jews (which is mentioned in the Quran), but if u look today there are thirteen. The extra tribe is the zionist jews. Also there is a hadith stating that the Ya'juj wa Ma'juj will drink the water of River Tiberius (also known as the sea of Galilea). And if you look nowadays, statistics show that one part of the river Tiberius is totally dry and the other part is marshy. And who was the water used up by? The zionist jews. They used it up faster than it could be replaced.
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Hey i haven't read all the posts coz it's just 2 long but i know that the Ya'juj and Ma'juj came from one of the sons of Musa (a.s.) i think it was Yaafith. Also i think they are all the zionist jews.
There are supposed to be only twelve groups of jews (which is mentioned in the Quran), but if u look today there are thirteen. The extra tribe is the zionist jews. Also there is a hadith stating that the Ya'juj wa Ma'juj will drink the water of River Tiberius (also known as the sea of Galilea). And if you look nowadays, statistics show that one part of the river Tiberius is totally dry and the other part is marshy. And who was the water used up by? The zionist jews. They used it up faster than it could be replaced.
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Aslaam-o-Alikum sister Asma1!
well i have read ur thoughts abt yajuj and Majuj but i m not agree abt that it will be branch of Jews coz may be its not in Hadeeth that it belong with jews.
but they will come from east and west and hold all over world.
may be they are between us or still in way.
Coz rasoolullah said once that i have seen that in teh wall of Yajuj and Majuj is become hole like He (s.a.w) show two finger roled up (Thumb and Shahadah finger roled up). she He has given warning of its Fitinah.
if that time it become hole so wot abt this time? they may are between us.
Wallah Ailam
Aslaam-o-Alikum sister Asma1!
well i have read ur thoughts abt yajuj and Majuj but i m not agree abt that it will be branch of Jews coz may be its not in Hadeeth that it belong with jews.
but they will come from east and west and hold all over world.
may be they are between us or still in way.
Coz rasoolullah said once that i have seen that in teh wall of Yajuj and Majuj is become hole like He (s.a.w) show two finger roled up (Thumb and Shahadah finger roled up). she He has given warning of its Fitinah.
if that time it become hole so wot abt this time? they may are between us.
Wallah Ailam
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THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MY BRO WAS SAYING YESTERDAY!!!!! he thinks its in the great wall of china :uuh: but i reckon that yajuj and majuj are in sumthing far greater.....
Allahu allam
hmm.... we dont really know where they could be .. so i just voted for " Impossible to know" Allahu Alam ..
* Wonders whats behind the great wall of china*
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MY BRO WAS SAYING YESTERDAY!!!!! he thinks its in the great wall of china :uuh: but i reckon that yajuj and majuj are in sumthing far greater.....
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Hey but aren't they somewhere in like Turkey, or Syria? :? one of those places??
And anyway, the wall of China was built much later than Dhul Qarnains time right?
And in the Qur'an it says that they are between two mountains........
Hey do you brothers and sisters know about the Hadeeth that out of every 100 Ya'juj and Ma'juj, 99 will go to Hell and 1 will go to Paradise?
Hey but aren't they somewhere in like Turkey, or Syria? :? one of those places??
And anyway, the wall of China was built much later than Dhul Qarnains time right?
And in the Qur'an it says that they are between two mountains........
Hey do you brothers and sisters know about the Hadeeth that out of every 100 Ya'juj and Ma'juj, 99 will go to Hell and 1 will go to Paradise?
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ye, its shocking :uuh: and its inbetween syria and turkey huh, whats all this bout dhul qarnain :? :? :?
ye, its shocking :uuh: and its inbetween syria and turkey huh, whats all this bout dhul qarnain :? :? :?
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As far as i've heard it was that the prophet told his companions that on the day of judgement out of every 100 people only one will go to heaven. And when the companions began worrying he told them that the 99 who will go to hell will be from the ya'juj and ma'juj and the one thet will go to heaven will be from his ummah. This shows that the ya'juj and ma'juj will be vast in number.
As far as i've heard it was that the prophet told his companions that on the day of judgement out of every 100 people only one will go to heaven. And when the companions began worrying he told them that the 99 who will go to hell will be from the ya'juj and ma'juj and the one thet will go to heaven will be from his ummah. This shows that the ya'juj and ma'juj will be vast in number.
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Sahih Bukhari
Volume 6, Book 60, Number 265:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
The Prophet said, "On the day of Resurrection Allah will say, 'O Adam!' Adam will reply, 'Labbaik our Lord, and Sa'daik ' Then there will be a loud call (saying), Allah orders you to take from among your offspring a mission for the (Hell) Fire.' Adam will say, 'O Lord! Who are the mission for the (Hell) Fire?' Allah will say, 'Out of each thousand, take out 999.' At that time every pregnant female shall drop her load (have a miscarriage) and a child will have grey hair. And you shall see mankind as in a drunken state, yet not drunk, but severe will be the torment of Allah." (22.2) (When the Prophet mentioned this), the people were so distressed (and afraid) that their faces got changed (in color) whereupon the Prophet said, "From Gog and Magog nine-hundred ninety-nine will be taken out and one from you. You Muslims (compared to the large number of other people) will be like a black hair on the side of a white ox, or a white hair on the side of a black ox, and I hope that you will be one-fourth of the people of Paradise." On that, we said, "Allahu-Akbar!" Then he said, "I hope that you will be) one-third of the people of Paradise." We again said, "Allahu-Akbar!" Then he said, "(I hope that you will be) one-half of the people of Paradise." So we said, Allahu Akbar."
Quite right but if there so vast in number how can they b hidden... great wall of china... sum mountains... where......
Sahih Bukhari
Volume 6, Book 60, Number 265:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
The Prophet said, "On the day of Resurrection Allah will say, 'O Adam!' Adam will reply, 'Labbaik our Lord, and Sa'daik ' Then there will be a loud call (saying), Allah orders you to take from among your offspring a mission for the (Hell) Fire.' Adam will say, 'O Lord! Who are the mission for the (Hell) Fire?' Allah will say, 'Out of each thousand, take out 999.' At that time every pregnant female shall drop her load (have a miscarriage) and a child will have grey hair. And you shall see mankind as in a drunken state, yet not drunk, but severe will be the torment of Allah." (22.2) (When the Prophet mentioned this), the people were so distressed (and afraid) that their faces got changed (in color) whereupon the Prophet said, "From Gog and Magog nine-hundred ninety-nine will be taken out and one from you. You Muslims (compared to the large number of other people) will be like a black hair on the side of a white ox, or a white hair on the side of a black ox, and I hope that you will be one-fourth of the people of Paradise." On that, we said, "Allahu-Akbar!" Then he said, "I hope that you will be) one-third of the people of Paradise." We again said, "Allahu-Akbar!" Then he said, "(I hope that you will be) one-half of the people of Paradise." So we said, Allahu Akbar."
Quite right but if there so vast in number how can they b hidden... great wall of china... sum mountains... where......
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yes it makes more sense like that
People have had all kinds of guess at who Dhul Qarnain was lol, like how some people say here in this thread that he was Alexander the Great and all that kind of stuff, but the truth is that Allahu A'lam. But what we do know for sure is that he is the one to whom Allah gave the strength to seal ya'juj and Ma'juj between those two mountains. And that he was a king who ruled the whole world at the time................Read the 2 pages of Surah Kahf bro it's all there
Oh......so it was just to show how vast the nation of ya'juj and Ma'juj will be then? and not that one out of every 99 of them will go to Janna? I understand then, Jazakillah khair sis
yes it makes more sense like thatPeople have had all kinds of guess at who Dhul Qarnain was lol, like how some people say here in this thread that he was Alexander the Great and all that kind of stuff, but the truth is that Allahu A'lam
. But what we do know for sure is that he is the one to whom Allah gave the strength to seal ya'juj and Ma'juj between those two mountains. And that he was a king who ruled the whole world at the time................Read the 2 pages of Surah Kahf bro it's all there 
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another hadeeth states that evryday the ya'juj ma'juj dig the barrier unti they SEE LIGHT, then when its night, their leader says we'll come backand finish it tomorrow. but the next day when they come Allah has made the barrier whole again so they begin to dig again... this will keep happening till one day the leader will say ''we'll finish it tomorrow INSHA ALLAH'' and the next day they will find the hole as they left it and will break loose.
(the hadeeth was something like this)
lots of scholars say they ARE already OUT- i can explain how if anyone is interested...:?
sahih bukhari: once the prophet (saw) woke up and his face was red. he said''woe to the arabs for the great evil that has come near-today a hole has been made in the dam of ya'juj wa ma'juj'
another hadeeth states that evryday the ya'juj ma'juj dig the barrier unti they SEE LIGHT, then when its night, their leader says we'll come backand finish it tomorrow. but the next day when they come Allah has made the barrier whole again so they begin to dig again... this will keep happening till one day the leader will say ''we'll finish it tomorrow INSHA ALLAH'' and the next day they will find the hole as they left it and will break loose.
(the hadeeth was something like this)
lots of scholars say they ARE already OUT- i can explain how if anyone is interested...:?
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^ yes yes I would love to know how the scholars can think that?? because in the hadeeth it's clear that they will come out and cause great destruction.........and please can you m ention who these scholars are please? Jazakallah Khair
^ yes yes I would love to know how the scholars can think that?? because in the hadeeth it's clear that they will come out and cause great destruction.........and please can you m ention who these scholars are please? Jazakallah Khair
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one particular scholar who has done extensive research and come to the conclusion they r out is sheikh Imran n. hosein.
50 yrs after hijra, the caliph at that time sent out a muslim delegation to locate the barrier of gog and magog. they located the barrier in the caucasus mounts and returned with the news that the barrier WAS IN RUINS.
the people living in the caucasus mnts were the Khazars.
(to explain the next bit i'm gonna have to go into a li'l more history)
we know from hadeeth that the ya'juj ma'juj are turk tribe (the khazars are turkik origin) also from hadeeth-prophet noah (after global flood which destroyed whole of mankind except those on ark) -his three sons are from whom modern-day humanity are descended from
his three sons were ham, sam (sham) and yafith or japheth.
from ham came the black people, from sam/sham came the jews and arabs (from prophet ibrahim) so these (jews and arabs are called 'semitic' -from sam) and yafith was the father of the ya'juj ma'juj!
somewhere in history the khazars collectively converted to judaism. when caliph abdur-rahman 3rd's secretary asked king joseph of the khazars whether the khazars were semitic (from sam)or not since they converted to judaism and called themselves the 13th tribe and there are only 12 actual tribes of israel.
king joseph replied 'no', they (khazars) were not real jews, and therefore NOT from sam but instead he traced his ancestry to noah's 3rd son yafith(father of gog and magog)!!
not only this but there is a hadeeth in muslim that says that when gog magog come ''the fisrt of them will pass over the sea of galilee (lake tiberius) and will drink all its water. when the last of them come they will say there used to be water here once''
well, the zionist 'jews' are actually the modern day khazars, but they hide this now (for obvious reasons) and they are the ones using up the water in the sea of galilee as a result of which it is drying up and causing awater crisis!
so some scholars think that the khazars (zionists) are gog magog, also in the hadeeth of bukhari which the prophet(saw) mentions about the hole being made he says WOE TO THE ARABS.
one reason for this COULD be because when the isalmic empire was expanding across the world, the place where it stopped and could not go beyond was the caucasus mnts where the hostile khazars were -who fought them so badly.
if you have any Qs-i've tried to answer as best i could...
OK this is long-here goes..^ yes yes I would love to know how the scholars can think that?? because in the hadeeth it's clear that they will come out and cause great destruction.........and please can you m ention who these scholars are please? Jazakallah Khair
one particular scholar who has done extensive research and come to the conclusion they r out is sheikh Imran n. hosein.
50 yrs after hijra, the caliph at that time sent out a muslim delegation to locate the barrier of gog and magog. they located the barrier in the caucasus mounts and returned with the news that the barrier WAS IN RUINS.
the people living in the caucasus mnts were the Khazars.
(to explain the next bit i'm gonna have to go into a li'l more history)
we know from hadeeth that the ya'juj ma'juj are turk tribe (the khazars are turkik origin) also from hadeeth-prophet noah (after global flood which destroyed whole of mankind except those on ark) -his three sons are from whom modern-day humanity are descended from
his three sons were ham, sam (sham) and yafith or japheth.
from ham came the black people, from sam/sham came the jews and arabs (from prophet ibrahim) so these (jews and arabs are called 'semitic' -from sam) and yafith was the father of the ya'juj ma'juj!
somewhere in history the khazars collectively converted to judaism. when caliph abdur-rahman 3rd's secretary asked king joseph of the khazars whether the khazars were semitic (from sam)or not since they converted to judaism and called themselves the 13th tribe and there are only 12 actual tribes of israel.
king joseph replied 'no', they (khazars) were not real jews, and therefore NOT from sam but instead he traced his ancestry to noah's 3rd son yafith(father of gog and magog)!!
not only this but there is a hadeeth in muslim that says that when gog magog come ''the fisrt of them will pass over the sea of galilee (lake tiberius) and will drink all its water. when the last of them come they will say there used to be water here once''
well, the zionist 'jews' are actually the modern day khazars, but they hide this now (for obvious reasons) and they are the ones using up the water in the sea of galilee as a result of which it is drying up and causing awater crisis!
so some scholars think that the khazars (zionists) are gog magog, also in the hadeeth of bukhari which the prophet(saw) mentions about the hole being made he says WOE TO THE ARABS.
one reason for this COULD be because when the isalmic empire was expanding across the world, the place where it stopped and could not go beyond was the caucasus mnts where the hostile khazars were -who fought them so badly.
if you have any Qs-i've tried to answer as best i could...